Does Alex Jones warp his editorial line to appease Zionists?

[Abandoned Ego]

[GazeboflossUK]

Wow, what a waste of time this thread is.

I don't think I wish to come back here often as too many people are proving themselves to be complete idiots.

Alex Jones is always going to have people going after him personally - using twisted facts, out of context quotes and sad little audio clips as cover for such character attacks.

Don't even give people like Dunne the time of day when acting in such a way.

[Bonko]

As a kind of sidenote, away from all the mindless parroting of the "facts" (the kind coming from
crackerjack researchers) and away from the crying out for "the evidence" (that type that can
drawn up on a blackboard), I'm gonna point out something thats glaringly obvious.

Propaganda RELIES on evoking fear.

If you think about it just for a little while, you'll be able to spot the kinds
of people who rely on getting you SOLD on FEAR. It's an ancient art, look around,
religions are structured on the idea of saving you from something through invoking
fear.

Once your sold on fear, your helpless, you find yourself in that constant state of
fight or flight response, you can't think straight, someone who is subjected to this
kind of psychological abuse, becomes helpless and powerless. The system feeds off this
fear, because in such a state, you instinctively look for an authority figure and
someone is always there to take that position and do your thinking for you.

This is the kind of abuse that's going on right now, and if you look around,
ITS NOT JUST ON TV !!

If you watch television, you see them playing the 'ol terrorism scare tactics,
getting people into a fear frenzy where they can't think rationally anymore.

Well duh, thats how it works, invoking emotional reactions blocks out any rational
processes in the individual, thats 'mind control 101' right there

What about if your watching 'documentaries' that leave you in fear for your life and
your families safety because of....um, lets see now.... Aliens, Luciferian death cults,
Marshal Law, Reptillian Overlords, armageddon.... are you getting the picture yet?

Back on the subject of getting the TRUTH out there, wouldn't it do us all a great
service if the representatives of these issues to mainstream media stuck to researching
and looked for solutions, instead of spending all of there time developing DVD+TV material
that does nothing but destroy the credibility of legitimate people with unanswered questions.

I think a lot of people are now learning the harsh consequences of leaving it up to the
'authority' to voice our opinions, especially when putting your faith in people like AJ, or Icke,
or any of these nutcases who allegedly represent the side of truth.

Apart from the info-tainment value of their material (you gotta hand it to 'em, MUCH better than the
rubbish on television), what kind of massages are they giving out, 'below the surface'.

I mean c'mon, does this look like someone who is dedicated to EMPOWERING YOU with knowledge??

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MY ADVICE: JUST SAY NO!!

[kbo234]

[kbo234]

[malcks]

i 2nd that, decide for yourself,oh! and dont forget what we're here for

[Bongo]

Why did Bonko choose a name so close to mine?


...Awright Malcks.

[Bonko]

FFS, I did'nt realise I signed up to a playground...

Well, my fault, I should've read the small print when I accepted the terms and conditions, but I could've sworn it said "you must be over 13 years of age" and not "you must be UNDER 13 years of age".

OK, now I get it, LOL... you kids play nice now....Byyeeeee

[FintanDunne]

[Fallious]

I genuinely have a wierd feeling of déjà vu for some reason reading that post, anyone else?

I appreciate your line on the Israeli side of things, but equally I can see many people here entirely rejecting it. That's the problem with disinfo, simply by framing a debate as questioning the validity of information as REAL information you suddenly alienate a vast quantity of people.

Better to let those interested do their research, and see what comes out in the wash. The obvious exception to this rule is when the minority theory somehow garners an unevenly voiced support base which is not representative of the actual bulk of campaigners supporting it, such as NPT. Talking of which, where do you stand on Beams and NPT?

[rodin]

True research is not prejudiced. Let's lay down what we got, try to demolish it, and see what's left. There is a chance that the MOSSAD done it meme IS too obvious. But there is also a very strong chance that they were active on the day. 200 spies were kicked out - if Israel and US were in league - WHY? Only reason I can think of is that only kingpin players in US were in on it - FBI grunts did their job for the US but their booty was confiscated & shipped back to Israel no questions asked. The 5 dancing Israelis - chutzpah or patsies? You/we decide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcON2XbFR3I&NR

The MSM and Hollywood is undoubtedly controlled by Jews. They are obviously sitting on the Israel connection to 911 and 7/7. No attempt at a MOSSAD cover story from them.

Fintan - why on earth would Peter Power set up a 'red herring' about an exercise? To muddy the waters??? Surely his statements can logically be linked to Verint (not Guliani unless he was also in on the Verint op). Moving from slow to quick time thinking - not the language of disinfo - more limited reveal I would say. If we get the suggestion for a Debating Chamber http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7101 then there will surely be a Peter Power thread, for his statements are

1) Fascinating
2) Caught on tape - we can prove he said what he said

Precisely

http://www.starstika.com/events/precisely-single-released

[rodin]

Bush lite got a plane feed all right. He's so stupid he reveals same. I don't even know if he knew what was happening. That look of utter bewilderment @ school with the book upside down. Commander Bush - ha. (Or was it an act. Does he play dumb but work smart? )

However, SOMEBODY had a 911 camera working in his direction. Unlike the CCTV's at Israeli-patrolled Logan. Now THAT detail was not a plant to smear Israel I am sure... or was it?

Were Peter Power's comments designed to drag Israel (Verint) in as the perps of 7/7 at a time of his master's choosing?...

heh - enough speculation. C'mon mods - let's tabulate the evidence...

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7101

[Abandoned Ego]

[rodin]

Some points from Fintan's forum

[John White]

Right, this hit peice is obviously controversial,so its off to truth Controversies where the evidence for these claims can be properly looked at.

[alexsandie]

Moderator, I really don't see why this is so controversial. I don't understand why people find this thread so threatening. As Fintan says:

[rodin]

[Leiff]

alexsandie, it is controversial because it is evidence free accusations!

[London Mick]

Fintan still hasn't told us anything about himself, his background, where he's from, what his Irish connections are, is he Irish?

[alexsandie]

Bonko, I totally agree with you on this. This alone has to make any rational thinking person question the agenda of some of the CIA fakes (which is just a shorthand term by the way). Even without all the disparities in the official version of events about 9/11, the motives of the main players who stepped in to take control of the alternative version of events is without a doubt sinister (to put it mildly!) There will be a lot of people seriously in need of 'cult deprogramming' very soon. And there won't be the help available that they need.

[rodin]

I cannot disagree with BONKO's post, quoted above

[Bonko]

Maybe i as being a bit harsh when I suggested that this place was
a playground. (but you can understand what I meant from the reactions
of some of the posters).

I sincerely think that the Issues brought up by alexandie and Fintan are
crucially important if we are to understand the level of infiltration and
manipulation that is so obvious in the truth movement.

I think it would also be a crying shame If John White or any of the other
moderators here were to decide that this thread be moved or cencored
in any way. Of course IMO, this would damage the credibillity of their
position as truthers and bring up questions about their motives.

The key to making progress on these issues will be a matter of staying
calm and having rational debates without resorting to emotional and
personal attacks. Lets hope we can keep a focus on the issues at hand.

[FintanDunne]

[FintanDunne]

[kbo234]

If you replace the 15 faces in 'Rat's Gallery with one, that of Fintan Dunne, you will have it about right.

[Bonko]

[Snowygrouch]

You forgot me I`m a CIA fake too, and everyone in the whole world.....except............YOU???

I`m glad you realised the Russion general must be a fake because he has beady eyes. Thats very astute I must say.

So now that we know everyone in the world is a CIA opertive except you what would you suggest we do???

Burn all our 9/11 books? Stop using the internet?
I`m also terribly impressed with ALL the evidence you have that amounts to....oh wait..YOUR ARTICLES!!

I cant ever recall being less convinced of anything, except that time I read the 9.11 Commission report. THAT was slightly less convincing than you I suppose.

[alexsandie]

[rodin]

[Bonko]

If you cast your mind back to when Peter power was doing his rounds on network television and radio talk shows, you might remember that he used the same line almost word for word. This happened on more than one occasion, more than two occasions more than three occasions in fact I lost count how many times mr. power "slipped up" with that nugget of "information".

Are we to believe that this was accidental?? I don't think so, the stakes are high, these boys arent about to let something like that get out there without some ulterior motive for doing so.

The fundamental question that needs to be asked is, why go to so much effort to get this particular message across??

Well isnt it obvious..... this kind of phoney evidence is picked up by the fakes hook line and sinker, the analysis clearly points out that they are working hand in glove with the agency, behind the scenes.

They run with this kind of planted conspiracy material day in and out, they are knowingly being fed flimsy "evidence" by the agency themselves so that it can be shot down time and time again on mainstream programming. This same tactic is used to paint the entire 9-11 truth community as ignorant conspiracy theorists.

Thanks to the fine work that these fakes are doing.... again, hand in glove with the agency.

Problem is, there are many who keep insisting that we not look behnd the curtain of this Truth movement.... but people will peek, and once you've seen behind there, the whole show looses it's "charm".