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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I find alexsandie's frequent anti-Scottish gybes a bit bewildering and not a little err... off topic!
For the record, I am English but currently spend much of my time in Fife and I am yet to witness any antagonism against me for originating from south of the border. Indeed, I was here during the latter part of last year's World Cup and much of the neighbourhood seemed to be supporting England. I daresay that if I had gone in a local pub, got píssed and started making the kind of remarks that alexsandie has done here, things might have been different.
Maybe it is just something about your attitude, alexsandie! |
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Uma Minor Poster
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[quote="kbo234"][quote="IronSnot"]
Quote: | The Aaron Russo interview with Alex Jones is also a big hitter. It is just Russo himself. He is no kind of political fanatic just a credible amusing transparently honest individual who happens to have mixed with people like the Rockefellers and found their morals (how can one put it)...wanting. |
...who just made a half-baked docco about taxation legitimacy
...and, coincidentally, owes an awful lot of money to the taxman.
And with due deferrence to the time-honoured adage - Russo will:
(i) Die
(ii) Pay taxes
or
(iii) (suffix 2) Go to jail.
Hold no stall in fat men wearing pink shirts whilst holding a grudge.
Your face will quickly resemble an uncooked omlette. _________________ loving you... |
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alexsandie Minor Poster
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Quote: | Perhaps the moderators will issue me with a warning after this post, but I personally think it was about time someone put SCOTLAND under the microscope - Scottish Politics, Scottish Government and Scottish Politicians. |
Nope, still no warning from the mods. Anyway, I'll leave you all to continue discussing Gorgeous George... |
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Bongo 9/11 Truth critic
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Quote: | Nope, still no warning from the mods. Anyway, I'll leave you all to continue discussing Gorgeous George... |
...Bet you have not had it in a while? |
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Graham wrote: | flamesong wrote: | SHERITON HOTEL wrote: | Can't someone ask GGG what he thinks of Tony Benn calling for the re-opening of the 9/11 enquiry? Did he tell Chavez he needed 'the white coat tratment' last week in Venezuala? |
I really have my doubts about the veracity of this claim which seems to be doing the rounds. Can you provide a reliable source for it. |
Does this help?
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
Quote: | Tony Benn - Former Member of British Parliament 1942 - 2001. Longest serving MP in the history of the Labour party. Former Minister of Technology. Former Secretary of State for Industry. Former Secretary of State for Energy. Former Postmaster General.
* Signatory: Petition For An Independent International Truth Commission On 9/11. "[T]he Bush administration has never offered a detailed and documented account of its claims about the events of 9-11 which have allegedly revolutionized human affairs. Nor has it explained obvious and serious discrepancies in its own statements and actions. No systematic proof has ever been published or offered as to who the terrorists were, how they operated, where they came from, and why they were not stopped. ...
The Kean-Hamilton panel’s limited funding from Congress makes a mockery of the tragedy of 9-11, considering that it is only a small fraction of the huge sums spent to investigate Bill Clinton. ...
We therefore call upon statesmen, thinkers, journalists, investigators, artists, scientists, jurists, academics, humanitarians, religious leaders, activists and other eminent personalities from around the world to form an Independent International Truth Commission dedicated to preventing unproven assertions about 9-11 from setting the stage for a new world conflagration." http://iitc.911review.org/ |
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My recollection is that early on in the campaign in Britain, sometime in 2004, one of our activists persuaded Tony Benn to sign the Petition For An Independent International Truth Commission On 9/11.
Since then, others and I have spoken to him and found a disappointing response: something along the lines of its being bad tactics to try to persuade the public that 911 was an inside job because nobody would believe us. It is far more important, he contends, to persuade the public to bring the troops home from Iraq.
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kbo234 Validated Poster
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[quote="Uma"][quote="kbo234"] IronSnot wrote: |
Quote: | The Aaron Russo interview with Alex Jones is also a big hitter. It is just Russo himself. He is no kind of political fanatic just a credible amusing transparently honest individual who happens to have mixed with people like the Rockefellers and found their morals (how can one put it)...wanting. |
...who just made a half-baked docco about taxation legitimacy
...and, coincidentally, owes an awful lot of money to the taxman.
And with due deferrence to the time-honoured adage - Russo will:
(i) Die
(ii) Pay taxes
or
(iii) (suffix 2) Go to jail.
Hold no stall in fat men wearing pink shirts whilst holding a grudge.
Your face will quickly resemble an uncooked omlette. |
Russo goes straight to the heart of the matter.....money creation.
He snitches on a top Illuminati/CFR man regarding foreknowledge of 9/11 (we like that don't we?) and much more besides. He is a decent man and has become an important figure.
The fact that he has been a bikini designer, a film producer, Bette Midler's manager, a nightclub owner, candidate for Governor of Arizona (was it?) and a gold dealer adds to his credibility. It shows that just because you are interested in making money and being a worldly success doesn't mean that you are automatically a fascist monster who is comfortable participating in the deaths of thousands of your fellow man (though it might help). He was offered the Faustian pact and turned it down. Now he is a whistleblower for truth and decency.
More power to him.
I don't understand what anyone who disagrees with this is doing on this forum. |
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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kbo234, the way your last post's quote hierarchy is messed up it seems to incorrectly imply that IronSnot was having a go at Aaron Russo. As he is presently unable to point this out for himself, I felt I ought to. |
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kbo234 Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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flamesong wrote: | kbo234, the way your last post's quote hierarchy is messed up it seems to incorrectly imply that IronSnot was having a go at Aaron Russo. As he is presently unable to point this out for himself, I felt I ought to. |
I quoted UMA'S entire post. The comments are entirely against 'her'.
Could be confusing though admittedly.
I defend Ironsnot against his expulsion from this site on another thread, by the way. |
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flamesong Major Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry if it sounded like I was having a go.
It's just that nested quotes can get confusing and sometimes they can get messed up and misleading. |
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a Galloway that sounds on our side, I just believe it is down to timing and fear of sounding or portrayed in the press as a Fruitloop if he comes out backing us right now
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=5485183586656320493& _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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Thermate Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Gorgeous George Galloway caught up in NPT disinformation |
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Sherlock Holmes wrote: | He should be made aware that the 'no planes theory' has a very small part to play in the search of 9/11 truth. |
And a minuscule number of genuine believers. It really is the 'Twilight Zone' of the 911 movement, in fact I had never heard of it before I visited this site. Many people have probably heard of it by now due to Mr Shayler and others hard work... _________________ Make love, not money. |
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Bonko Minor Poster
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Doesn't it seem like anyone who is given air-time on television ends up making the people with real concerns over 9/11 look like fruitloops.
Clever trick that.
Apart from shayler talking about the NPT on national television, did anyone see that penn and teller BS episode were Jimmy Walters (the 9/11 truth movements millionaire sugar daddy) made a complete ass of himself by doing the chicken dance??
Oh, that was just after he suggested that the people on the planes were probably still alive and most likely working for the government.
Nice to have a fella like that as a backer for the whole truth movment dontcha think? |
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olly onions Minor Poster
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Eckyboy Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: The Cat's whiskers |
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After seeing George Galloway's performance at the senate a few years ago I was blown away and mesmerized by him and have listened to him ever since. I find him to be very intelligent and charismatic and yet something at the back of my mind tells me he is not sincere and although I believe the 911 truth movement needs high profile people to speak out I would be unsure of Mr Galloway's true motives. I listen to his show when I can and he dismisses 911 being an inside job and yet for me the evidence is overwhelming to support this view.
As for Alexsandie I myself am Scottish and have found that you get idiots everywhere not just here. I could be wrong but she comes across as very bitter and I hope that she let this hatred go as it will only hurt herself in the long run. |
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Bonko wrote: |
Apart from shayler talking about the NPT on national television, did anyone see that penn and teller BS episode were Jimmy Walters (the 9/11 truth movements millionaire sugar daddy) made a complete ass of himself by doing the chicken dance??
Oh, that was just after he suggested that the people on the planes were probably still alive and most likely working for the government.
Nice to have a fella like that as a backer for the whole truth movment dontcha think? |
For the record, Jimmy Walter spent money in early 2005 bringing 9/11 researchers and witnesses, mainly from the US, to give talks in eight European cities: Paris, Berlin, Vienna, Amsterdam, Madrid, Rome, London and Manchester. He asked the then fledgeling 911 Truth movement in Britain if we would be prepared to co-operate with him. Since he was going to organise this speaking tour regardless of whether we co-operated, we decided the tour would probably be more successful if it did have the benefit of our co-operation and local knowledge.
In February 2005 we had a meeting with Jimmy at my house in London and laid out plans. We gave him various pieces of advice, some of which he accepted. We persuaded him to add Manchester to the list of cities to be visited. We failed to persuade him that distribution of free DVDs to the voters of Sedgefield during the last election would not unseat Tony Blair. We co-operated with Jimmy in getting publicity in Sedgefield during the election. The occasion was a good one in that when nine of us met up in Sedgefield to campaign against Blair's warmongering, it was the first time that the southern end and the north of England end of the 911 truth movement met up with each other and we began to feel we had the germ of a national movement forming.
Since Jimmy's tour, which was in May and June 2005, we have not to my knowledge had any financial contribution from Jimmy, though he has sent us some books and DVDs.
Jimmy is his own master and does his own thing. I do not always agree with his opinions or style, but I am grateful to him for giving the movement a boost in the early days when it was badly needed.
Since we are not financially supported by him, I woul'd not characterise him as the sugar-daddy of the movement.
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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flamesong wrote: | kbo234, the way your last post's quote hierarchy is messed up it seems to incorrectly imply that IronSnot was having a go at Aaron Russo. As he is presently unable to point this out for himself, I felt I ought to. |
It was a mess wasnt it? I'm always reluctant to try and "tidy things up" for people, but it doesnt take a lot of care to make sure posts are coming out right: theres even a preview button before one submits!
I'm assuming this is Uma's actual comment:
Quote: | ...who just made a half-baked docco about taxation legitimacy
...and, coincidentally, owes an awful lot of money to the taxman.
And with due deferrence to the time-honoured adage - Russo will:
(i) Die
(ii) Pay taxes
or
(iii) (suffix 2) Go to jail.
Hold no stall in fat men wearing pink shirts whilst holding a grudge.
Your face will quickly resemble an uncooked omlette. |
Seemingly Uma is unaware that:
1) Death is very much what Mr Russo may well be facing being as he is tackling cancer at the moment
2) Theres nothing more have baked than the federal reserve
3) The money owed to the taxman is as illusionary as the value of a federal reserve note
I'd postulate Uma has a long way to go to understand what Mr Russo is saying to her....
Now, back to Georgie Galloway... _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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Bonko Minor Poster
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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xmasdale wrote: | Bonko wrote: |
Apart from shayler talking about the NPT on national television, did anyone see that penn and teller BS episode were Jimmy Walters (the 9/11 truth movements millionaire sugar daddy) made a complete ass of himself by doing the chicken dance??
Oh, that was just after he suggested that the people on the planes were probably still alive and most likely working for the government.
Nice to have a fella like that as a backer for the whole truth movment dontcha think? |
For the record, Jimmy Walter spent money in early 2005 bringing 9/11 researchers and witnesses, mainly from the US, to give talks in eight European cities: Paris, Berlin, Vienna, Amsterdam, Madrid, Rome, London and Manchester. He asked the then fledgeling 911 Truth movement in Britain if we would be prepared to co-operate with him. Since he was going to organise this speaking tour regardless of whether we co-operated, we decided the tour would probably be more successful if it did have the benefit of our co-operation and local knowledge.
In February 2005 we had a meeting with Jimmy at my house in London and laid out plans. We gave him various pieces of advice, some of which he accepted. We persuaded him to add Manchester to the list of cities to be visited. We failed to persuade him that distribution of free DVDs to the voters of Sedgefield during the last election would not unseat Tony Blair. We co-operated with Jimmy in getting publicity in Sedgefield during the election. The occasion was a good one in that when nine of us met up in Sedgefield to campaign against Blair's warmongering, it was the first time that the southern end and the north of England end of the 911 truth movement met up with each other and we began to feel we had the germ of a national movement forming.
Since Jimmy's tour, which was in May and June 2005, we have not to my knowledge had any financial contribution from Jimmy, though he has sent us some books and DVDs.
Jimmy is his own master and does his own thing. I do not always agree with his opinions or style, but I am grateful to him for giving the movement a boost in the early days when it was badly needed.
Since we are not financially supported by him, I woul'd not characterise him as the sugar-daddy of the movement.
Noel |
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we have not to my knowledge had any financial contribution from Jimmy, though he has sent us some books and DVDs.
Are you having me on???......You just explained how much of an influence JW has been in setting up and marketing the Truth movement in your country.... He has been doing this in many countries around the world.
So, Jimmy Walter is the millionaire who got the 'truth movement distributed in many countries as a kind of global franchise, the Truthtm may be coming to a town near you, for one night only...blah blah blah.
You still think that calling JW the 9/11 truth movements sugar daddy is innacurate??.... Think of it this way, without his support, there would be no "9/11 Truth movement" franchise. |
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Emmanuel Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: Galloway wearing a mask or just in denial? |
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I was admiring George Galloway for a while, but now I have just listened to a recent talksport show and I am seeing through his cheerful socialist banter.
http://www.georgegalloway.com/page.php?page=content/tsarchive.html He immediately dismisses two callers when they ask questions about 7/7 bombs being under the bus and that possibly 9/11 was an inside job. He becomes agitated and silences the callers at once.
He also repeats the word conspiracy to taint the message too. This is where I see the polarisation and obvious hurdle of the traditional anti war socialist and the more youthful geeky internet researchers. Bridges need to be made between these two "markets" on selling the "truth" _________________ www.freecycle.org
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Zabooka sent me this link - I don't know why he didn't post it on the thread.
Anyhow, it should give us all (genuine 911 Truth Campaigners, that is) cause to rejoice. Check this out http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5504984115181602028
'There shall be joy among the angels in heaven over one sinner who repents'.
Hope we get no snide remarks - we've been fighting an uphill battle against left-wing leaders, an important front has switched sides - rejoice, and hope the rest begin to follow. |
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kbo234 Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yes.
George calls himself a 9/11 truth-seeker on this show.
Blimey!
He admits to slurring our members with the words 'conspiracy theorists' in the past. Mind you, he had William sitting right there beside him.
Let's see how he responds to one of our members when we raise 9/11 issues next time.
However, as Outsider says, let us be glad...."There is more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than.....etc" |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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kbo234 wrote: | Yes.
George calls himself a 9/11 truth-seeker on this show.
Blimey!
He admits to slurring our members with the words 'conspiracy theorists' in the past. Mind you, he had William sitting right there beside him.
Let's see how he responds to one of our members when we raise 9/11 issues next time.
However, as Outsider says, let us be glad...."There is more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than.....etc" |
Softly, softly, catchee monkey!! |
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Justin 9/11 Truth Organiser
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The real test for George will be will he support our call for a new independent enquiry into 9/11 and will he actually ask a question in the House of Commons to Gordon Brown and his Cabinet cronies concerning his doubts about what actually happened on 9/11? It is one thing to politely embrace Willie in a back street studio out of the glare of the mainstream, quite another to lift his head above the parapet and go public in front of the world's media! Come on George....have you got the courage to go that extra bit? _________________ Connect to Infinite Consciousness - enjoy the ride! |
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Reflecter Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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One of Georges prior responses to 9/11 raised before his disciples.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=997649844770454548
Google have declined/omitted my comments from this clip:
Galloway recently hosted William Rodriguez on his 'Real Deal' Sky TV show and made something of an apology to truth activists he has slurred in the past. In addition he considered himself a truther and unconvinced by the official Conspiracy Theory of 9/11. Can we expect to see a less dismissive George in the future? More truth campaign guests on your show? Hard hitting questions being put to Parliament?
As this videos prior example of crushing legitimate questioning in public before your admiring hordes, frankly sucked and did nothing to aid getting to the bottom of what really happened that day. Turning off the mainstream left from legitimate hard questions is a disservice to the victims families and the ongoing victims of the 'War OF Terror'. That may very well be based on a false flag operation, just like all the other war pretexts before it and the SAS members caught red handed in Iraq that you mention here. Why should 9/11 be the exception to the rule?
With Cindy Sheehan now confessing to being in a similar sympathetic mindset to the truth campaign, we are hopeful of seeing a very vocal George in the near future. Will you stand tall like you did before the Senate? Or will you turn and walk away?
Have you changed your spots Topcat?
Filmed in Manchester on the 28/11/06 after the STW protest the day prior. _________________ The Peoples United Collective TPUC.ORG
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karlos Validated Poster
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George Galloway is a frustrating enigma.
I have met him at a Respect party conference, i have called his talk show and spoken to him on air, but when he tells you to email him or write to him with the details i guarantee you he will NEVER reply nor will he ever take my calls or texts again.
It is strange but i think he is scared of losing his media profile. The same way that Greg Pallast lambasted the 911 truth campaign is the same way that George Monbiot also put the boot in and it is also the same way GG gives very short shrift to any 911 or 7/7 talk.
George seems to go over the top in his condemnation. Almost like he is scared to admit these thing are real.
Galloway is very much misinformed about a number of things. He seemed not to know about the North American Union, about alot of 911 and 7/7 evidence. He simply calls everyone a conspiracy nutter and cuts them off, that is if he accidentally takes their calls in the first place.
But i must add he is the only high profile figure who consistently campaigns against the war and against the palestine situation. Therefore we are better off NOT knocking him as he is a good person just slightly blinkered when it comes to the war on terror. _________________
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Bonko wrote: | xmasdale wrote: | Bonko wrote: |
Nice to have a fella like that as a backer for the whole truth movment dontcha think? |
For the record, Jimmy Walter spent money in early 2005 bringing 9/11 researchers and witnesses, mainly from the US, to give talks in eight European cities: Paris, Berlin, Vienna, Amsterdam, Madrid, Rome, London and Manchester. He asked the then fledgeling 911 Truth movement in Britain if we would be prepared to co-operate with him. Since he was going to organise this speaking tour regardless of whether we co-operated, we decided the tour would probably be more successful if it did have the benefit of our co-operation and local knowledge.
In February 2005 we had a meeting with Jimmy at my house in London and laid out plans. We gave him various pieces of advice, some of which he accepted. We persuaded him to add Manchester to the list of cities to be visited. We failed to persuade him that distribution of free DVDs to the voters of Sedgefield during the last election would not unseat Tony Blair. We co-operated with Jimmy in getting publicity in Sedgefield during the election. The occasion was a good one in that when nine of us met up in Sedgefield to campaign against Blair's warmongering, it was the first time that the southern end and the north of England end of the 911 truth movement met up with each other and we began to feel we had the germ of a national movement forming.
Since Jimmy's tour, which was in May and June 2005, we have not to my knowledge had any financial contribution from Jimmy, though he has sent us some books and DVDs.
Jimmy is his own master and does his own thing. I do not always agree with his opinions or style, but I am grateful to him for giving the movement a boost in the early days when it was badly needed.
Since we are not financially supported by him, I woul'd not characterise him as the sugar-daddy of the movement.
Noel |
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we have not to my knowledge had any financial contribution from Jimmy, though he has sent us some books and DVDs.
Are you having me on???......You just explained how much of an influence JW has been in setting up and marketing the Truth movement in your country.... He has been doing this in many countries around the world.
So, Jimmy Walter is the millionaire who got the 'truth movement distributed in many countries as a kind of global franchise, the Truthtm may be coming to a town near you, for one night only...blah blah blah.
You still think that calling JW the 9/11 truth movements sugar daddy is innacurate??.... Think of it this way, without his support, there would be no "9/11 Truth movement" franchise. |
I said I would not call him that, but of course you can call him whatever you like.
You missed out the first two clauses of that sentence of mine you quoted which in full reads:
"Since Jimmy's tour, which was in May and June 2005, we have not to my knowledge had any financial contribution from Jimmy, though he has sent us some books and DVDs".
I did not say we had never had any contribution from Jimmy. But he never gave the movement in this country any money directly, only some help in kind. We had been established for a year before we met him, with two active groups: one in London and the other in Cumbria also an embryonic one in Bristol. His technique was not to support our plans at all, but to ask us to support his. Since he was going to go ahead with his schemes whether we co-operated with him or not, we decided it would be better to co-operate in the hope of influencing him to spend his money wisely. I don't think he did spend it very wisely because he rejected our advice, based on our local knowledge, on most issues and much of his spending was wasted IMHO.
What we could have done with that money if it had been ours to spend in the way that we believed local conditions demanded!
He employed one of our activists to work for him for a time, but they then fell out with each other and had acrimonious rows on the internet.
The setting up of the movement in Britain (February 2004) had nothing to do with Jimmy, though he did give it a boost by his activities a year later, 2005. His donations of DVDs were particularly useful.
We now don't even know where he is or how to contact him. |
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karlos Validated Poster
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with hindsight though it might have been better for our campaign to raise it's own funds directly from the general public and by having a membership.
Jimmy walter is on the same side as the truth campaign
but as a member of the public i had never even heard of him until i was given a copy of his dvd by Wokeman this year.
So i would suggest his strategy did not make it into the mainstream.
/his tactic of attacking blair in sedgefield was flaweed because Martin Bell and reg Keys were already doing that.
We need our own fundraising and that can include donations from millionaires here in the UK _________________
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Jimmy Walter has been a tremendous help to 911 Truth worldwide; I still use his excellent DVD (as well as others), particularly for middle-age or older people. No one is perfect; not many millionaires would support such a direct attack on the Establishment, especially for altruistic and patriotic reasons. If we slag off our benefactors, it indicates that whilst we may not be 'conspiracy theorists', we sure as hell have a screw or two loose.
Jimmy took plenty of flack from the media and 'dirty tricks' brigade, just as Michael Ruppert and others have. Let's be grateful he did feel impelled to try to get the truth out.
Re George Galloway, let's not push him; he's given us what we needed, his blessing. It is no good trying to push him into gestures like Parliamentary Questions; what we want is the masses of Respect, StW, Iraq Occupation Focus etc., to build a critical mass: THEN we go for Parliament. We appear to have William Rodriguez to thank for swinging GG over. Thank you, William, and thank you, George, for you support. Rome wasn't built in a day. !A Luta Continua! ('The Struggle Continues!' in Portuguese). |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
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I've had another try today (emailed) to get George Galloway to take up the cudgels for 9/11 Truth.
George Galloway MP,
A member of the House of Councillors of the Japanese Diet made some very spirited speeches in the Diet re the impossibility of 9/11 attacks occurring as the US Administration and media have alleged. Japan lost some citizens in the attacks, but not the 67 (I believe that is the best estimate to date) that the UK lost.
I ask that you bring up similar questions in our House of Commons. I am not asking that you defend every position of the 9/11 Truth campaign, but I know you are unhappy with the Bushco lies which were happily regurgitated by Tony Bliar & Co as to what happened.
I also know you are not afraid to champion unpopular positions, the main one of course being the outright denunciation of our illegal invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq.
I am aware that though there is support for 9/11 Truth among MP's, no one has the guts to bring the issue up in the House.
You have previously ignored my letters on 9/11; I hope you will not only reply to this, but bring the issue up in the House.
In order to see the interventions in the Diet on video, and to get a transcript, I enclose a link to the relevant article on our 9/11 Truth wbsite Forum (I post on this Forum as 'outsider'):
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=106329#106329
I look forward to receiving your reply. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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keithm Validated Poster
Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 93 Location: bournemouth
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George Galloway banned me from talksport last night,for saying,
U.S voting machines are rigged,
9/11 was an inside job,
i support ron paul, and the next U.S president has probably already been chosen by the bilderberg group. |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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outsider wrote: | I've had another try today (emailed) to get George Galloway to take up the cudgels for 9/11 Truth.
George Galloway MP,
A member of the House of Councillors of the Japanese Diet made some very spirited speeches in the Diet re the impossibility of 9/11 attacks occurring as the US Administration and media have alleged. Japan lost some citizens in the attacks, but not the 67 (I believe that is the best estimate to date) that the UK lost.
I ask that you bring up similar questions in our House of Commons. I am not asking that you defend every position of the 9/11 Truth campaign, but I know you are unhappy with the Bushco lies which were happily regurgitated by Tony Bliar & Co as to what happened.
I also know you are not afraid to champion unpopular positions, the main one of course being the outright denunciation of our illegal invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq.
I am aware that though there is support for 9/11 Truth among MP's, no one has the guts to bring the issue up in the House.
You have previously ignored my letters on 9/11; I hope you will not only reply to this, but bring the issue up in the House.
In order to see the interventions in the Diet on video, and to get a transcript, I enclose a link to the relevant article on our 9/11 Truth wbsite Forum (I post on this Forum as 'outsider'):
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=106329#106329
I look forward to receiving your reply. |
Well, I'm still waiting for a reply, Mr. G, but you will be pleased (?) to know I'm not holding my breath! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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