Scott Forbes evidence is uncorroborated

[Patrick Brown]

It's interesting that I never questioned this before but has anybody come across even one other person that confirms the south tower power-down?

Read this: http://911review.com/errors/wtc/forbes.html
Backup copy: http://www.esnips.com/doc/437e026a-bb4a-441d-b94c-5e31177c2bfe

If Forbes statements can't be backed up then it can no longer be seen as evidence. Further we have to question the “911 Mysteries” documentary as you would think the makers would have triple checked all their sources. That particular documentary strongly tries to implement Bush and the government in the events of 911. Remember the FEMA terror drills if known to terrorists etc would have been an obvious opportunity to maximize confusing whilst executing an attack.

This Forbes stuff has instilled many doubts in my mind.

[marky 54]

would willie rodriguez know?

ive done a search and am seeing nothing other than scott forbes, other places/things that mention the power down dont seem to give a source for the information they are claiming. so we have to assume again they are getting the information from scott forbes statements.

[Stefan]

Patrick,
Why don't you ask him, instead of all these public attacks?

[Patrick Brown]

[Snowygrouch]

I dont know for certain that Scott Forbes is correct, however he has gone on tape stating this (so you can see his face obviously).

If he made it all up thats a hell of a risk!!

For example he states the company he worked for, if he didnt all it would take would be one employee to say "hey he never worked here!!!"

Same for the power down, a pretty bold lie to make....the number of people who escaped...if thats a lie it would also just take one person to come forward saying "there were NO powerdowns!".

That doesnt make it gospel but its a big lie to try and pull off; with no drastically good motive for doing so.

C.

[Patrick Brown]

The power-down if it happened is very suspicious and points to an inside job of some kind. But why
didn't Forbes mention it before April 2004? He may have been threatened into telling the story of course. The Forbes story is also used in the “911 Mysteries” documentary which blatantly points the finger at Bush and the government. Remember the FEMA terror drill was an ideal smoke screen for anybody that may have knew or found out about it prior to the event.

Forbes email:

[DDD911]

Has anyone asked Fiduciary Trust if he was an employee during those dates?

Simple question could make or break a story.

[SHERITON HOTEL]

Is this "claim" featured in 'Screw 9/11 Mysteries'

[Patrick Brown]

[Patrick Brown]

So here's the contact page for the company: http://www.fiduciary-trust.com/contact/

Who want's to give them a phone call?

Might want to record it!

[Stefan]

I'm sure everyone here has been in a position, at work or otherwise where something very wrong or suspicious has happened and it is greeted by a general silence- no one wants to rock the boat.

Some will whisper amongst them selves, some will just ignore it and keep their heads down, some will shrug and say "what can you do about it" but you will find one rare charecter, perhaps one in a thousand who will stand up and make a fuss about it, everyone else just lets someone else worry and thinks about their own neck.

In my experience 1 in 1000 is about the right proportion of the population who have a strong enough moral back bone to risk their personal situation for what they believe is right.

Think about it- are we going to start believeing Kevin Ryan was the only employee of any of UL's companies who smelt a rat? How many spoke out?

Are we saying Jones is the only physicist to have noticed something seriously fishy going on. No; just the only willing to risk his reputation for what he thought was right.

Was Sibel Edmunds the only one in the FBI who knew about the irregularities going on?

Were Annie and David the only people in the whole of MI5 to have caught wind of illegal activities?

Of course not. The lone whistleblower phenomonem only points to a sad fact of human nature:

Very few people are willing to rsik their comfort zone for the sake of something like morality.

[Patrick Brown]

That's all very well Stefan but without other witness statements Forbes words mean nothing.

[QuitTheirClogs]

[SHERITON HOTEL]

Was there anything about the pre 9/11 weekend twin towers 'power down' in the 911 commission report and who were the 'computer upgrade contactors'?

[Bongo]

William Rodriguez stated that regular power-downs were not that uncommon and infact quite normal at the Glasgow event last Saturday evening.

[Patrick Brown]

[DDD911]

[Dogsmilk]

I'm sure I remember reading something about how Forbes got a couple of former colleagues to corroborate his story for an interviewer, but I can't for the life of me remember where this was or what specific interview.

Though his statement in isolation is unsatisfactory as evidence, I find myself thinking if he wasn't who he said he was or had otherwise been totally discredited, this would have been trumpeted by critics quite loudly. I'm not aware of this happening.

[paul wright]

[Patrick Brown]

[rodin]

[kbo234]

[rodin]

Would not Rodriguez know if there had been a power-down?

[Patrick Brown]

[kbo234]

[Patrick Brown]

[kbo234]

[Patrick Brown]

[rodin]

I would NEVER recommend Patrick be banned from this forum. He is a good test of strength of evidence. Same with Ignatz and a few others. It was I, remember, who first brought up the question of whether there really was a power-down pre 911 in the first place. Right now I would leave it out of any court case against our leaders.

[Patrick Brown]

If nothing else it shows that we need to be careful of what we believe no matter where it comes from and that includes the NIST report. There's always a path to the truth but it's easy to be sidetracked by exotic fictions.