Should Shaylers Name Be Removed From The Front Of this site?

[Bongo]

I would Vote Yes, But leaving it up to everyone else?

I feel he is single handedly doing too much irreversible damage with his ill thought out theories.[/b]

[Thermate]

He's pimped NPT twice(?) during MsM opportunities, his credibility is kinda low right now...

[telecasterisation]

Bearing in mind that there will be a combination of those who have never even heard of Shayler, not to mention those who have but you offer no real justification as to why this poll exists. Perhaps some links would help people decide;

Again though, there should always be a 'don't know/don't care' option to encompass everyone.

[Fallious]

The simple fact that SOME truthers (let alone the vast majority represented here) disagree with Davids representation of 9/11 truth should be more than enough indication to him that we do not accept him as a spokesman, specificaly one talking about NPT.

He should have the simple decency to either redirect requests for interviews to Annie or a prominent member of the american truth movement, or just keep off NPT entirely.

As far as i'm concearned he has demonstrated quite sufficiently that he is NOT working in the best interests of the vast majority of the UK 9/11 truth community so his unofficial position as spokesman (should that be spooksman?) is not fair on him or us.

[marky 54]

im not sure if theres logical thinking behind shaylers use of words.
i have never heard him come right out and say there were no planes without leaving some doubt. example is skynews, newcaster asks if hes saying there were no planes shayler says back "well i would ask people to slow down the footage and look at whats going on there" he niether implys there were planes or there was planes. or has he gone ferther than that recently?

i just think the way he does it, it plays on peoples minds. it will eat at them untill they have to check for themselves. checking for themselves leads to other 9/11 related items of which most raise questions. a push in the back to get people to look? i could be wrong of course.

[marky 54]

ok i still cannot vote on the polls and when i left my message above it was 2/1 i come back 10 minutes latter and its 8/1 with no new comments. dunno if anyone else thinks that is not normal?

no new comments apart from one it appeared after prssing submit.

bah now i can vote whats going of

[Bongo]

telecasterisation, sorry, you are right. I did have a 'Dunno?' option, but when I posted it, for some reason only the first two were accepted. I have also tried to edit the post, but it will not let me edit the poll.

However, I take your point. I assumed, probably wrongly so, that everyone reading this would be aware of the BBC Radio 2 event earlier today. But for anyone who does not...

A Thread on Today's (15th Feb 2007) BBC Radio 2 event...
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=7123

...and for all those who are un-aware who David Shayler is and the views he holds...
http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=David+Shayler+Heaven+Earth

[QuitTheirClogs]

If he's there representing the truth movement then he should state that his views are very much in the minority.

[rodin]

[Fallious]

The NPTheorists will inevitably vote "NO". The real joke being that they are trusting an M15 agent over the vast majority of people in the same movement as them.

The same people that believe the CIA, Military Industrial complex had the fallout of 9/11 including the Truth movement so carefully planned that they planted and continue to nurture disinformation agents at the highest positions of power within the movement.

Did I mention they are voting to trust an M15 officer over the vast majority of the 'average joes' in this movement?

I think I did. Orwell would have something to say about that.

[DDD911]

Get people to realise the simple things: buildings just don’t collapse like that unless helped, I find it so much easier to accept the idea those buildings have been brought down by controlled demolitions, people will not get their heads around this NPT & Beam waffle, and you will lose them as I suspect some may want.

Even if these ideas are correct (NOT) they will need to be explained later down the road, not now with the average Joe thinking 9/11 truth movements are full of idiots & whacko’s, I tell you anyone curious will run for the hills on these fringe ideas, I think they are nuts myself yet I know the US Air Force has toys of imagination that is totally sci-fi, I know someone based at Kirtland AFB, Albuquerque, NM, and he’s said several times "if you can think it, we have built it" of course he wont elaborate any further on that but I can image they have some eye raising gadgets.

This will all go downhill very quickly unless someone comes out with rock solid evidence, none of this guesswork & comparing of video feeds, don’t rely on some bits of odd footage, get the original footage from the news channels, find out what camera men were filming that day and see if they kept a copy of their 9/11 footage (I bet they did). Prove us wrong & you right (in reference to those who spend all day arguing this point)

Either way if you cannot sell it to 9/11 truthers then you’re buggered from the start!

[Thermate]

[alexsandie]

Bongo

[malcks]

everyone has their own theories but present them and they will be questioned,stick to asking questions about the official theory,make them answer the questions NOT the other way round

[malcks]

oh,and i voted yes

[Bongo]

[flamesong]

People are still voting.

17:4 in favour.

Looks like a landslide.

[John White]

Bongo: all "screw ups" sorted as per request

Now don't do it again!

[Bonko]

The creepy thing is not that shayler (Ex-MI5 - wink - wink) can do this much damage
to the credibility of 9/11 activists every time he's given air time, the creepy thing is,
people still 'appear' to think he's on the side of truth... ROTFLMAO

Thats beyond niave

[Fallious]

[Bonko]

[mason-free party]

I say no...Shayler's opinion is worthy of consideration...the truth tends to hurt sometimes...and i don't think ex MI5 employees have to take blood oaths like those who join the masonic cult of jah bul on

[flamesong]

[mason-free party]

flamesong...water under the bridge has moved on long ago...now diluted in the sea of truth

[fixuplooksharp]

pity, shayler was a good speaker, but sometimes he seems to go out of his way to discredit us.

[hatsoff]

For those who want evidence of David Shaylers stance on the NPT please watch this



Link

[kookomula]

I agree with Quitclogs, if David points out that his opinion is not shared by the majority that is perfectly acceptable to me. David's rad.

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