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Bushwacker
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 Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: "Truthseekers" exposing themselves! |
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Over on the News section they are getting themselves all worked up over the BBC programme which has not yet been shown, so they do not know what evidence might be produced. But they do not care, not at all. As far as they are concerned, anything that supports the "official theory" must be wrong, there is simply no question in their tiny, muddled, minds. They have no interest in truth, only belief. Conspiracy theories are a modern substitute for religion, a way of making sense of a confusing and difficult world. The conspiracists' "truth" is the same as religious truth, simply what they choose to believe, any evidence to the contrary is very unwelcome, but must be wrong, because it conflicts with the core belief. Therefore the question becomes only how to discredit it, twist it, or avoid it, not to consider whether it might disprove the belief. What indeed is truth to a "truthseeker"?
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That's funny. Apparently there are 2 versions of the documentary, one which will take the official line, and the other less so. The test for the BBC is in which it will show.
In reality, there is only one version, the BBC will show this, it will show truthseekers to be whackjobs, and so because they predicted the BBC are in the pay of the lizard overlords, the truthseekers are proved right.
They're funny.
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scar
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: Government propagandist exposes himself |
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | Over on the News section they are getting themselves all worked up over the BBC programme which has not yet been shown, so they do not know what evidence might be produced. But they do not care, not at all............ blablablablabla pseudo pop psychology gleaned straight from a recent newspaper hitpiece which was gleaned from neocon propagandists... |
Hahaha you fool.
We have a pretty good idea of what this program will be like. Based on this for one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/6341851.stm
Also the various reports from those interviewed for the hitpiece, that the BBC has ignored this for 5+ years and numerous other factors.
You're the one who does'nt care otherwise you'd know this...
All the rest of the nonsense you repeated straight from the newspaper is not really worth commenting on except to say that your acceptance of, and obsessive propagandising for, the official story is utterly based on belief, you have no interest in truth as seen many times when faced with data that you cannot refute and/or hasnt been covered on 911 myths yet...you are a hypocritical repeater, little more. |
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Bushwacker
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Government propagandist exposes himself |
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| scar wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | | Over on the News section they are getting themselves all worked up over the BBC programme which has not yet been shown, so they do not know what evidence might be produced. But they do not care, not at all............ blablablablabla pseudo pop psychology gleaned straight from a recent newspaper hitpiece which was gleaned from neocon propagandists... |
Hahaha you fool.
We have a pretty good idea of what this program will be like. Based on this for one:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/6341851.stm
Also the various reports from those interviewed for the hitpiece, that the BBC has ignored this for 5+ years and numerous other factors.
You're the one who does'nt care otherwise you'd know this...
All the rest of the nonsense you repeated straight from the newspaper is not really worth commenting on except to say that your acceptance of, and obsessive propagandising for, the official story is utterly based on belief, you have no interest in truth as seen many times when faced with data that you cannot refute and/or hasnt been covered on 911 myths yet...you are a hypocritical repeater, little more. |
A newspaper has said the same, has it? Well there you go, it must be true!
Just wrap yourself up in your delusions, and comfort yourself with the thought that your merry little band, who cannot even agree amongst themselves, know things the "sheeple" do not. You have had a revelation, it came from a computer screen, not a burning bush, but it is your own special revelation, and dull old facts and logic are not going spoil it for you, are they? |
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scar
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Government propagandist exposes himself |
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A newspaper has said the same, has it? Well there you go, it must be true! |
Like when all the papers printed Bliars Iraq dossier verbatim.
If that had turned out to be lies you might look a bit of an arse right now but lucky for you it was all true...
Of course those who believed the dossier was a lie from the start were all conspiracy theorists and derided in a similar way.
The Downing Street Memo is to be ignored just like 9/11 Truth:
http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387374.ece
Governments never conspire, never lie, they love us.
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just seen it and i must say im suprised how something claiming conspiracy theorys are wrong has to avoid or miss out certain facts.
anyway critics or some critics know they were lieing dont they?
for example(flight 93) they said only very tiny pieces of debris reached the lake, nothing big like wings or engines.
critics must be going red with anger as they have told me numerous times at least one engine was found in the lake are the bcc lieing? or are critics full of sh*t? |
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Bushwacker
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Government propagandist exposes himself |
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| scar wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: |
A newspaper has said the same, has it? Well there you go, it must be true! |
Like when all the papers printed Bliars Iraq dossier verbatim.
If that had turned out to be lies you might look a bit of an arse right now but lucky for you it was all true...
Of course those who believed the dossier was a lie from the start were all conspiracy theorists and derided in a similar way.
The Downing Street Memo is to be ignored just like 9/11 Truth:
http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387374.ece
Governments never conspire, never lie, they love us.
Keep the insults coming, thats all you've got |
So your best evidence that Bush planned 9/11 is that Campbell sexed up the dodgy dossier? Why didn't you add in the Reichstag fire, that really would have been the clincher? |
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Bushwacker
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Government propagandist exposes himself |
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| scar wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: |
A newspaper has said the same, has it? Well there you go, it must be true! |
Like when all the papers printed Bliars Iraq dossier verbatim.
If that had turned out to be lies you might look a bit of an arse right now but lucky for you it was all true...
Of course those who believed the dossier was a lie from the start were all conspiracy theorists and derided in a similar way.
The Downing Street Memo is to be ignored just like 9/11 Truth:
http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387374.ece
Governments never conspire, never lie, they love us.
Keep the insults coming, thats all you've got |
So your best evidence that Bush planned 9/11 is that Campbell sexed up the dodgy dossier? Why didn't you add in the Reichstag fire, that really would have been the clincher? |
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Bushwacker
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Government propagandist exposes himself |
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| scar wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: |
A newspaper has said the same, has it? Well there you go, it must be true! |
Like when all the papers printed Bliars Iraq dossier verbatim.
If that had turned out to be lies you might look a bit of an arse right now but lucky for you it was all true...
Of course those who believed the dossier was a lie from the start were all conspiracy theorists and derided in a similar way.
The Downing Street Memo is to be ignored just like 9/11 Truth:
http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387374.ece
Governments never conspire, never lie, they love us.
Keep the insults coming, thats all you've got |
So your best evidence that Bush planned 9/11 is that Campbell sexed up the dodgy dossier? Why didn't you add in the Reichstag fire, that really would have been the clincher? |
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Bushwacker
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Sorry about the repeat posting, I got the message "could not connect"
More lies from the truth movement! |
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scar
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Government propagandist exposes himself |
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| Bushwacker wrote: |
A newspaper has said the same, has it? Well there you go, it must be true! |
| scar wrote: | Like when all the papers printed Bliars Iraq dossier verbatim.
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | So your best evidence that Bush planned 9/11 is that Campbell sexed up the dodgy dossier? |
You have some serious issues. With a reasoning as keen as this its no wonder you believe the government on 9/11. Probably cant even tie your own shoelaces. |
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| marky 54 wrote: | just seen it and i must say im suprised how something claiming conspiracy theorys are wrong has to avoid or miss out certain facts.
anyway critics or some critics know they were lieing dont they?
for example(flight 93) they said only very tiny pieces of debris reached the lake, nothing big like wings or engines.
critics must be going red with anger as they have told me numerous times at least one engine was found in the lake are the bcc lieing? or are critics full of sh*t? |
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in one of those clowns who uses a name but actually imply Bush licker.
A man in a cave did it. Weve know that for years. The point of division is believing the unbelievable as a religion would want us to or putting the evidence under scietific conspiracy.
Erasing the laws of physics, the history of state sponsored terrorism and the fact that nothing of this sort has occurred for a FULL FIVE YEARS on US soil is amazing. The cave conspirators are so good that they haven't been able to pull it off again. |
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Bushwacker
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Bushwacker |
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| conspirator wrote: | in one of those clowns who uses a name but actually imply Bush licker.
A man in a cave did it. Weve know that for years. The point of division is believing the unbelievable as a religion would want us to or putting the evidence under scietific conspiracy.
Erasing the laws of physics, the history of state sponsored terrorism and the fact that nothing of this sort has occurred for a FULL FIVE YEARS on US soil is amazing. The cave conspirators are so good that they haven't been able to pull it off again. |
What a fine collection of rubbish!
Bush is perhaps the worst ever US President, who has made a disaster of US foreign policy, but you think he can flawlessly recruit hundreds of supporters to carry out an operation like 9/11 without leaving a trace? You have more respect for him than I do.
"Men in caves" is one of the most stupid of the many very stupid phrases conspiracists like to use. There is nothing inherent in living in a cave that stops you organising terrorism, but of course at the time it was organised the AQ high command was living in a rather fine HQ. They only moved to caves later, for a period.
Tell the Spanish AQ have managed nothing for five years, I am sure they would be pleased to know they imagined the Madrid bombings.
And the laws of physics won't help make an argument that stands up.
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You have proof AQ pulled off madrid?
Please present it.
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Bushwacker
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| John White wrote: | You have proof AQ pulled off madrid?
Please present it. |
Proof, no, but the Spanish think so. See The Times |
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | John White wrote: | You have proof AQ pulled off madrid?
Please present it. |
Proof, no, but the Spanish think so. See The Times |
So you have no proof for this statment, only belief: or to be precise, faith in the announcments of the Spanish government
Obviously critics are having an easy ride at the moment, perhaps I should make more time to post in here again 
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Bushwacker
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:56 am Post subject: Re: Government propagandist exposes himself |
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| scar wrote: | | ..........you might look a bit of an arse right now......... |
| scar wrote: | | With a reasoning as keen as this its no wonder you believe the government on 9/11. Probably cant even tie your own shoelaces. |
| scar wrote: | | Keep the insults coming, thats all you've got |
Know thyself.
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| John White wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | | John White wrote: | You have proof AQ pulled off madrid?
Please present it. |
Proof, no, but the Spanish think so. See The Times |
So you have no proof for this statment, only belief: or to be precise, faith in the announcments of the Spanish government
Obviously critics are having an easy ride at the moment, perhaps I should make more time to post in here again |
I do not believe that you will find that I said that; the Spanish government believe in an AQ connection, I suggested conspirator should tell the Spanish that AQ had been unable to pull off an operation for five years, since that is his belief. 
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| Interesting to see Alex Jones and Jim Fetzer ranting on like TV evangelists in the BBC programme, Jones whipping up his congregation, sorry audience, into a fine frenzy................... |
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Bushwhacker,
Do you really, really believe the entire official line line on 9/11? Do you not think there is something just a teeny weeny bit suspicious about all the events as they are portrayed officially? (And no, I don't believe in bean weapons, holograms, etc)........... |
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| wepmob2000 wrote: | Bushwhacker,
Do you really, really believe the entire official line line on 9/11? Do you not think there is something just a teeny weeny bit suspicious about all the events as they are portrayed officially? (And no, I don't believe in bean weapons, holograms, etc)........... |
In the age of Harry Potter, Nintendo and the dawning of the age of Marvel Comics people like Bushwacker not only believe every video image the government serves them or every MIcrosoft photoshop job but they actually promote it. What else do they have left.
Oil wars they cannot win, green on an unparalled scale and the totally insane view that the US government couldn't blow up three buildings in New York as too many people would know about it.
Too many people already know about it... |
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| Quote: | | A man in a cave did it. |
See Marky? All these "independent thinkers", yet you all repeat the same myths. Nobody knows the official story, they trust Alex Jones to tell them what the official story is. Utterly predictable.
No we move on the the part where if you don't believe in vast conspiracies, you must believe everything the government says. You see the government told us smoking was safe, therefore WTC1 was CD'd with super nano thermate.
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| pepik wrote: | | Quote: | | A man in a cave did it. |
Nobody knows the official story, they trust Alex Jones to tell them what the official story is. Utterly predictable.
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Bush certainly does. He stated it is no conspiracy. Ie he knew Al Quaeda did it. Logical. They were on the CIA payroll.
But when did Alex Jones appear on the scene?
Months or years after 9/11? You take Bush's line which is again utterly predictable. Tell us something we dont know... |
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| conspirator wrote: |
In the age of Harry Potter, Nintendo and the dawning of the age of Marvel Comics people like Bushwacker not only believe every video image the government serves them or every MIcrosoft photoshop job but they actually promote it. What else do they have left.
Oil wars they cannot win, green on an unparalled scale and the totally insane view that the US government couldn't blow up three buildings in New York as too many people would know about it.
Too many people already know about it... |
Photoshop is made by Adobe.
The TV pictures came from television stations, not the government, but where also backed up by hundreds if not thousands of eye witnesses. The same goes for the Pentagon footage.
Clearly too many people know about the government blowing up buildings, I mean, look at all the action they've taken, with all the evidence they have. Oh wait, no court cases, no impeachments, no subpeonas. The truth movement has taken absolutely no action with all this evidence they have. Why is that?
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| Quote: | | You take Bush's line which is again utterly predictable |
In all my time reading about 9/11 and visiting debunking sites, I have never come across a single instance of someone saying something was true "because Bush said so".
The reason you say "man in a cave did it" is because that's what the conspiracy websites tell you to think. No official version has ever claimed any such thing.
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| Johnny Pixels wrote: |
Photoshop is made by Adobe.
| Quote: | | The TV pictures came from television stations, not the government, but where also backed up by hundreds if not thousands of eye witnesses. The same goes for the Pentagon footage. |
in the case of the Twin Towers it was millions of eye-witnesses.
Clearly too many people know about the government blowing up buildings, I mean, look at all the action they've taken, with all the evidence they have. Oh wait, no court cases, no impeachments, no subpeonas. The truth movement has taken absolutely no action with all this evidence they have. Why is that? |
because it is not true, duh! after all, this whole "conspiracy" theorists reminds me of th cosforums where people discuss Harry Potter, and come up with the most twisted evidence that this or that might happen in book seven.
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Photoshop is made by Adobe.
The TV pictures came from television stations, not the government, but where also backed up by hundreds if not thousands of eye witnesses. The same goes for the Pentagon footage. |
in the case of the Twin Towers it was millions of eye-witnesses.
| Quote: | | Clearly too many people know about the government blowing up buildings, I mean, look at all the action they've taken, with all the evidence they have. Oh wait, no court cases, no impeachments, no subpeonas. The truth movement has taken absolutely no action with all this evidence they have. Why is that? |
because it is not true, duh! after all, this whole "conspiracy" theorists reminds me of th cosforums where people discuss Harry Potter, and come up with the most twisted evidence that this or that might happen in book seven.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Government propagandist exposes himself |
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Know thyself. |
I do.
I have no problem insulting someone as hypocritical, spiteful and see through as yourself nor did i say otherwise.
Your unwavering belief in the righteousness of authority is utterly ill founded.
| Bushwacker wrote: | | no interest in truth, only belief. |
| Bushwacker wrote: | | .....the same as religious truth, simply what they choose to believe, any evidence to the contrary is very unwelcome, but must be wrong, because it conflicts with the core belief. Therefore the question becomes only how to discredit it, twist it, or avoid it, not to consider whether it might disprove the belief. |
Know thyself. |
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| Johnny Pixels wrote: |
Photoshop is made by Adobe.
The TV pictures came from television stations, not the government, but where also backed up by hundreds if not thousands of eye witnesses. The same goes for the Pentagon footage.
Clearly too many people know about the government blowing up buildings, I mean, look at all the action they've taken, with all the evidence they have. Oh wait, no court cases, no impeachments, no subpeonas. The truth movement has taken absolutely no action with all this evidence they have. Why is that? |
Every public opinion survey they take shows a majority believe the government blew up the buildings.
You go against the surveys and believe in Photoshop as proof that certain people went to an airport. Travelling on a bus or walking along a pavement is no proof of anything unless we are led to believe a picture of a darkskinned Arab looking character is guilty of ...walking near security cameras.
No wonder your name is Pixels... |
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