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mason-free party Moderate Poster
Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 765 Location: Staffordshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject: Two 911 sites that may have an hidden agenda? |
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I've been warned about 2 sites which are www.911truth.org and www.summeroftruth.org which are trying to promote the idea that the US Government let 911 happen rather than being directly involved.Also both sites ignore the valiant work of Jimmy Walter of www.reopen911.org
The SUMMEROF TRUTH.ORG has blantant masonic sun symbolism on their site and i urge all 911 truth seekers to use caution regards these two sites...the masonic brotherhood have a great habit of infiltrating movements and changing them from within...
<img src='http://www.911truth.org/graphs/summertruth.gif'>
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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This relates to Nico H's article below slating the people behind the http://www.summeroftruth.org/ events this coming 9/11 as 9/11 gatekeepers and disinfo agents.
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7803
Now in relation to these opinions my advice is make your own minds up. It is precisely because these divsions, suspicions, allegations and counter allegations have arisen in the US that we are trying to find a different path.
Let's face it we will never get full disclosure and accountability from either Bliar or Bush without massive public support and the key to winning that public support is first and foremost public awareness of the facts and evidence out there.
And the key to building public awareness is trusting grassroots activists to speak their own truth and to use the resources (books, dvds, articles, etc) they find most effective in spreading the word.
That is why this network has NO spokes people and why we do not endorse any one position. Anyone can speak in support of the campaign but not FOR the campaign. If we are approached by the media (as we have been occasionally) to put forward people to speak in support of the campaign, we are pleased to do so and obviously we tend to towards recommending those who appear to be the most knowledgeable, credible and articulate.
But anyone doing so speaks in a PERSONAL capacity. Similarly local groups and individual activists are obviously free to approach the media or politicians and speak in support of the campaign and this is whole heartedly encouraged
This approach will hopefully avoid some of the problems the movement in the US has suffered from. We have no need to debate endlessly whether we are LIHOP or MIHOP, whether we are pod people or non-pod people, whether such and such a person is batting for the other side, whether there were any islamic hijackers, etc. We have no need to reach a central 'party line' and endlessly police ourselves to check if we are 'on message'. We have to trust ourselves and the wider public with the intelligence to think for ourselves.
Indeed any other approach (unless we are particularly lucky or wise) is bound to failure, since as soon as you try and control such a movement you will end up with internal squabbles, power/ego struggles and in-fighting.
At the end of the day (without actually endorsing them obviously) people like DRG and Webster Tarpley to name 2 have given us all the evidence and amunition we need to make our case. The centre of this network need do v little other than act as a means for grassroots activists to connect with each other, set up their own groups and activities and spread the word.
That said there is a debate on the need for and process for electing a 'management committee' and definition of its role on the private forum section of this forum. Anyone is welcome to join this section by PMing me and asking to join. We hope (assuming we get our act together) to elect a committee on-line before the planned national meeting (see events) on Sept 25 (in London). |
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halva New Poster
Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Next April (April 2006) Athens is to host the European Social Forum. The programme is being decided upon next month (September) in Istanbul, and it is utopian to think that the 9/11 Truth issue will be able to get onto it. Of course I may be wrong about that. The last European Social Forum was held in London, and there was a 9/11 workshop. Ian may even have been one of its organizers.
Nevertheless, another initative which is underway at the moment, started by members of ATTAC in Germany, is for a Europe-wide network of grass-roots citizens groups to make proposals for an alternative Europe, one which has a better chance of going forward than the Europe of the failed ’Constitution’ now rejected by the citizens of France and Holland.
http://www.anothereurope.net/wiki/index.php/Call_for_local_assemblies_ %28EN%29
9/11 Truth movement members in Europe should start forming or joining these local assemblies, without having a ’single-issue’ attitude about their engagement but also without hiding genuine convictions that the phoniness of the ’terrorism’ issue, whether in the US, in London or elsewhere must be brought to light.
Maintain contact with other 9/11 truth activists, but also do not be sectarian and go looking for trouble with ’Leftist gatekeepers’, who are a predominant, but not invincible, element, in the Social Forum movement.
Further information: omades@in.gr
Could you not, at least, form a London group? |
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Seb Minor Poster
Joined: 13 Aug 2005 Posts: 82 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome, halva!
You've posted this in quite a few places now.
Don't worry, everyone will see it if you post it in one place. |
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halva New Poster
Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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So far there's one response, from Alan Firminger. |
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