Meacher to stand for Labour leadership

[Skeptic]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6385285.stm

Meacher enters Labour leader race
Former Environment Minister Michael Meacher is to announce he will challenge Gordon Brown for leadership of the Labour Party.
Mr Meacher, who is on the left of the party, had said there should be a contest when Tony Blair steps down.

He has told the BBC he has more backing from MPs than fellow left-winger John McDonnell, who has been planning a leadership bid since last July.

Tony Blair and his deputy John Prescott will step down before next autumn.

Mr Meacher, one of Labour's longest-serving MPs, has been a vocal critic of the government since returning to the back benches.

He has criticised chancellor Gordon Brown, the favourite to take over from Mr Blair, for signalling he would renew Britain's nuclear weapons system.

He has said there had to be " proper debate" about Trident, if not a referendum on the issue.

Mr Meacher has told the BBC he is confident he can get the backing of the 44 MPs needed to get on to the ballot.

There has been speculation a senior figure from the Blairite wing of the party, such as Home Secretary John Reid or Environment Secretary David Miliband would mount a leadership bid.

But so far no heavyweight contender has emerged to challenge Mr Brown.

Candidates for the deputy leadership have been more forthcoming, with Mr Hain, Hilary Benn, John Cruddas, Alan Johnson and Harriet Harman have all declared their ambitions to take over from John Prescott.

[Mark Gobell]

Interesting "old Labour" take on it here:

http://reclaimlabour.blogspot.com/2006/11/meacher-to-stand-tomorrow.ht ml

18th March 2003: Meacher votes for the invasion of Iraq (unlike 139 Labour MPs who voted against)

7th May 2003: Meacher votes for Foundation Hospitals

8th May 2003: Meacher votes for Fire Services Bill during the national FBU strike

13th June 2003: Meacher is sacked from the Government

6th September 2003: Meacher claims that the US administration was complicit in the September 11th attacks.

22nd October 2003: Despite no longer being a Minister, Meacher votes against a judicial inquiry into the Iraq war.

19th November: Meacher votes for Foundation Hospitals again.

9th March 2004: Meacher votes against release of Attorney General's legal advice

20th December 2004: Meacher votes for ID cards

18th October 2005: Meacher votes for ID cards (again)

[QuitTheirClogs]

Harry Perkins - Reclaim Labour:

[PaulStott]

He's a scumbag, always has been, always will be.

http://paulstott.typepad.com/911cultwatch/2007/02/the_truth_movem.html

[Andrew Johnson]

[John White]

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/michael_meacher/oldham_west_and_royto n#votingrecord

New Labour politician: inherantly untrustable

[James C]

As I understand it, Meacher's about turn on many policies is to do with his discovery of peak oil theory. Many of us believe him to be a 9/11 truther but in reality this is minor compared to his role as a promoter of peak oil and future energy instability issues. I happen to agree with him about the oil situation although I know many people here do not. I believe Meacher wants to use his position to raise awarness of the coming energy crisis.

As far as 9/11 is concerned, I don't recall having seen Meacher support the Loose Change version of events. I get the impression he is a LIHOP supporter.

[gareth]

he was sitting in front of me when david ray griffin spoke at conway hall. didn't he read 'the new pearl harbour' when he wrote the foreword?

[flamesong]

[James C]

[kinjack]

Would have thought the BBC would have mentioned his support for 911 truth movement and surely all his peers should be aware. Will he get the 44 votes needed? He seems to think so...


Maybe i'm being silly but what does LIHOP and MIHOP stand for?

[flamesong]

Launching his bid at Westminster, he unveiled a policy platform including complete withdrawal from Iraq and no involvement in any military action against Iran, opposition to Trident and nuclear power, a £7-an-hour minimum wage and measures to reduce the difference in pay between the richest and poorest.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2294746.ece

We wouldn't want any of that, now, would we?

No, lets get behind Gordon Brown!

Has everybody forgotten his Guardian article?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1036571,00.html

And the stick he got for it?

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,1038478,00.html

And the dots he joined up afterwards?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,,1266511,00.html

[flamesong]

LIHOP = let it happen on purpose

MIHOP = made it happen on purpose

[uselesseater]

David Milliband

Is there a more vomit inducing individual alive?

I did do a quick search to see if I could find a good term to define him. I wanted something that meant : Charlaton, Imposter, Prostitute, Degenerate, Liar, Interloper, Fake.

Any suggestions?

[rodin]

[PaulStott]

[flamesong]

Well, Paul, I would hardly call myself a supporter of either New or Old Labour nor any of the other main parties but a revolution looks unlikely in the near future and until it looks otherwise we have to make do with the current structure.

Not that I support the RCP but in the last election a friend of mine stood as a candidate for them in one constituency and voted Labour at home. Why? He said to keep the BNP out.

There is no obvious answer to the need to change the political world and there are some marginal idealists whose ideas are great but will sadly never break through the status quo.

I'm actually very sympathetic to your cause. I have talked to members of CW at numerous demonstrations (a few years ago now) but I never managed to engage any of them on 9/11.

[Roger the Horse]

[Pikey]

Mark Gobell wrote:

[xmasdale]

[Roger the Horse]

Xmasdale said;

'If we rubbish him publicly, we are rubbishing a LIHOP supporter of 911 truth. I have spent the past three years trying to persuade the various factions within this movement to work with each other (and yes that includes MIHOP, LIHOP and NPT). I am not about to side with an internal campaign to expell LIHOPpers from our ranks. '

Agree with you completely Xmasdale. I was a MIHOP from the word go but was be extremely happy if anyone would even entertain the idea of LIHOP and continue to feel that way. Any small step in the right direction is still a positive as far as I'm concerned. It does my head in how so many people are prepared to jump in and pour scorn on people who don't agree with their views exactly.

[QuitTheirClogs]

Has any other UK politician (current or former) had the courage to follow Michael Meacher’s lead on 9/11?

And, who is this Harry Perkins with his Screw Michael Meacher blog?

[Pikey]

[Justin]

Pikey said:

[QuitTheirClogs]

This is just a guess, but perhaps Michael Meacher feels he’s gone as far as he can go without being pigeon holed as a “conspiracy theorist.”


Michael Meacher and Andreas von Bülow speak about 9/11, The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and The New Pearl Harbor.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i2gGb6aajw

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq6kD4Cm8NU

[Roger the Horse]

I suspect you are bang on with that one QuitTheirClogs

[Bongo]

Justin,

[kbo234]

[Linda]

Nasty Hazel Bleeeeeeeeeeears has thrown her hat in the ring now.

How on earth can anyone vote for that scumbag?

[Sherlock Holmes]

When I was at university I was known as a real 'Labour boy', or should that be 'Real Labour Boy'.

Anyay since 9/11, ID Cards, 7/7 and false flag terrorism came into my way of thinking that is over. Labour (whoever lead that party) is also over for my family and I hope over for the 3000-4000 people I have given truth DVDs to.
With the leaking of potential new false flag terrorist events by MI5/6 to the press (even today) and the tried and tested agenda of fear, divide and rule rearing it's ugly imperial head I've had a total change of political direction. They only have to find a few newly arrived criminal asylum seekers, deliquents, hot heads, fanatics and nuts (not ver difficult in this country) and then you add a provocateur here and there, the next thing you know you've got a new 7/7. They did it in NI for 30 plus years, ask Kevin Fulton, and Steak-Knife...

I'm voting Liberal, because I'm not a Liberal, and the media tells me that I should be voting either new Tory, new Labour or even BNP. And that makes perfect sense. Something a few years ago I could never have contemplated. I'm NOT A LIBERAL, and in this strange world of false flag terror where right is left, and up is down, it makes sense that I should vote Liberal. I'm voting for a Liberal democracy at home and UKIP when it comes to the European elections. To me that makes sense. I also know that there will be no revolution in this country apart from the one in people's own minds.


SOLIDARITY.