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scar
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 Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: oh dear |
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Ok got it all working
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Did you spot the blob in the clip? I sure as eff could not. |
I can see it on frame by frame and at normal speed. I cant say what it is though. The news reader is watching and she sees no plane but whatever that blob is it is moving at the speed i would imagine the plane to be moving at, and she would probably see a plane there.
That kinda rules out that someone wouldve edited this to remove the plane afterwards.
It IS at a very different perspective to the compared clip though and the 'plane' would not be in the same area, this is deliberately deceptive.
But, i cannot say that blur is a plane. It could have been put in later, or it could be a poor attempt at faking it live, or it could be nothing and the plane is to the left of it behind the towers/smoke. Its inconclusive imo.
| alwun wrote: | | As I mentioned -- you are free to believe what you like, but not to try to persuade me of the veracity of each and every clip of the plane impacts currently extant. The clips where the planes disappear behind clock towers or other buildings - don't waste your time. |
Well surely if there were no planes then every clip is a fake?
Are you saying you cannot be mistaken? Part of my skepticism towards all this is that there have been fakes aired before as proof and then exposed as deceptive. Perhaps to muddy the waters, perhaps thats what no planes comes down to...
The plane moves forward 1 step for every 4 frames or so, Im not sure what you can really conclude from that low a framerate. i.e. The explosions are gonna do the same thing, there would be a tiny delay also and skipping 4 frames for each visible movement will exaggerate it.
Cheers for the links though, gonna come in handy for the future no doubt.
Peace. |
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gurl102
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wow alwun, if you wouldn't believe the TV, you certainly shouldn't believe anything else that you see on youtube and the internet. I'm telling you that there were planes. but I urge you not to believe one girl on the net. get to NY, stop people in the street, and ask them I bet you that one out of five people here saw it first hand. If bush, or silverstein, or darth vadar would have wanted to commit a crime, would they do it right in the front of millions of people?
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gurl102
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scar, it all comes down to who you preferr to believe. they make claims, Bush administration denies it. whatever. no one has real proof. it's just one's word against the other.
as for all those theories, they all start out the same. bush failed us, the defense failed us, the cia failed us they skrewed up they all didn't do their job, they're all FIRED!!
but then it goes on to make rediculous accusations no proof, no base to what they claim. sorrry, but I won't believe EVERYTHING I am told by EVERYONE. or I would go nuts.
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alwun
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| Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: sharp eyes |
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Scar, Matk G and Woodee - You are right. I saw the blob about a minute after posting that snotty comment above.
Mark G you've got sharp eyes. I looked at that clip many times before I saw the 'blob'.
gurl 102. I don't get a chance to poll New Yorkers much. You're the first NY person who has posted here with an eyewitness account, as far as I know. I'll take your word for it and I will say no more.
Woodee - you are right about viewing second or third hand conversions of original footage - it's all a bit suspect if I look long enough.
cheers Al.. |
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