The PentaCon - 9/11 movie released

[Serge]

Has just been released. Enjoy

http://www.thepentacon.com/

[Mark Gobell]

Superb effort. This film completely debunks the flightpath and the light poles.

Superb stuff.

And a credit for Calum.

[GEFBASS]

Intelligent Investigating,

Five stars what an effort.

Smoking gun is right.

Disprove one aspect of the `Official Lie`
Reasonable doubt enough said.

Geoff.

[SHERITON HOTEL]

A not often discussed(as far as I can recall) pentagon 911 mystery is the way they demolished a huge area of the impact side of the Pentagon, appx 1 and 1/2 X the length of a 757 wing span or more. I expect all this was pulverised and buried deep in landfill and rendered useless as evidence, I could be wrong.

[wickywoowoo]

Using people who state outright that a plane hit the Pentagon to prove it didn't?

I have to say I wasn't keen on this, it really didn't convince me on anything more than i already was.

[Serge]

Part 2, a 4 hour docu' is due out also from the same guys who did this 'smoking gun' film. This will contain alot more than the Smoking Gun.
Will post link as soon as it is released.

[wickywoowoo]

I hope it's better than this version. I'd promote Pandora's Black Box Vol. 2 before this, personally.

The blatent clone style of Loose Change with the 'beats' and fancy opening may well seem like a cash in attempt.

[Serge]

[wickywoowoo]

I've read the conflicting claims that the information has been "decoded" or whatever the term is, incorrectly and it has made a flaw in the hypothesis claimed in the movie.

Is this just JREF bashing us like normal or is this a problem?

[Serge]

[Serge]

[wickywoowoo]

JREF are to debunking what we are to truth, there really isnt that much difference at the core. The debates back and forth correct errors and flaws in both beliefs, which is good.

So where did JREF get this 'bs' from and how can it proven as bs? How can JREF prove anything to begin with?

The only reason I am asking is because this movie really seemed odd to me, the questioner leading a lot and i just like to try and find proof and verification for claims made.

[Serge]

[wickywoowoo]

From what I read, the JREf people are saying the info has been translated wrong and the flight path has been effected as a result, along with the two second thing.

It seems a very specific claim being made rather than a vague one.

[Serge]

[Light Infantree]

I just had an email from the creators of this new film that concentrates on what happened at the Pentagon.

'The PentaCon'

high quality divx here: http://stage6.divx.com/members/274984/videos/1127810

or on Google video here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4196580169348087802

Website for more information: www.ThePentaCon.com

[truthorliesmike]

Hello everyone. Once again , I want to thank all of you who tuned in to Revolution Radio. The mp3 download will be posted soon.

I just wrote an article for my website about why I think the new "Pentacon" film is a neocon whitewash. I'd like you all to read it and give me your thoughts.

Thank you. Here's the link:

http://truthorlies.org/GovtArticle9.html

Mike

[GazeboflossUK]

Ho ho ho!

We are coming for the criminals alright!

Even watching the intro got me all hyped up.

I'm watching (well, it's paused) the Hi-res as a type this.

After staying away from the Pentagon issue for so long - these past few weeks have really got me back interested in talking about it.

Before I think I used to try and concentrate on other aspects of the 9/11 cover up and I guess I was waiting for moments like this to arrive.

Well done to everyone involved in the more recent flight data revelations. I really can't thank you enough

[Zabooka]

If this aint something to get your juices going and all ready and fired up for Final Cut!

Wow Wee!

This, and soon to come out DRGs Debunking 911 Debunking... then finally to finish it all off Final Cut!

I am all fired up now!

[GazeboflossUK]

The section where the Citgo CCTV tape is used to show exactly where Lagasse was parked, where he walked, what he did and who he talked to is when something inside me felt good, really good.

SWAT guys huh?

[spoon]

Hi

I've been reading about the attacks for a few years now and when I first seen the Pentagon theories I was hooked.

Anyway I've just seen a video trying to debunk Flight 93 being shot down and have one question.

It mentions that if it was shot down there would be a smoke trail but this cannot be seen from the photographic evidence and from what I can gather there has never been anyone say they seen a smoke trail?

Can someone explain if it was shot down why there was no smoke trail?

Another question I have is regarding the Pentagon.

The new video thats coming out "Pentacon" claims the plane may have flown over the Pentagon, I'm a bit uneasy about this as again surely people the other side of the Pentagon would have seen the plane fly over? You couldnt miss such a big thing flying away from the Pentagon as all your attention would have been on it from the explosion? You would have surley thought "Has that plane just dropped a bomb" but again I dont think anyone has ever said they said they saw what looked like a passenger plane fly away from the scene?

I do think there are many questions needing answered and get annoyed when the likes of "Popular Mechanics" try to debunk everything, when its obvious certain things have not been answered, surely they would have to admit thats theres many unanswered questions? Does anyone know what Popular Mechanics stance on this is? Do they believe everything from that day was as the "Official Story" stated or do they agree somethings are amiss?

I do think they have proved somethings to be correct but also many that are not.

Any info on these questions would be great.

Thanks

[telecasterisation]

spoon asked;

[Serge]

JREF site if I ever did see one. Biggest load of hogwash I ever read. It is obviously a lie. If they had even bothered to pay attention to the film, they would have seen the insert of the citgo video proving where the witnesses were at the time of the incident.

The proof is obvious for anyone with eyes that work, ears that hear and brains that can think.

Back to school for you pal. Pay attention in future before coming here and spouting your bs.

What idiots of your ilk fail to understand that the NTSB supplied the FDR information, it WAS NOT TRANSLATED BY PFT, and therefore the witnesses merely confirm the NTSB FDR data matches their accounts.
You can and will be confirmed as a pickering influenced disinfo agent if you carry on with your lies.

[Bongo]

Absolutely compelling stuff.

The interviewer manages to keep a neutral stance and simply asks the relevant questions. The two cops simply 'assumed' that the interviewer was going to debunk stories of drones hitting the pentagon etc... However, in reality it is their own evidence which places 'serious doubt' on the official narrative!

Well done to the guys involved in making this film and to Pilots for 9/11 truth. Keep up the good work!

[scar]

edit: Mods moving posts again put this post out of context...

All 4 were convinced of what they saw, this marries with the NTSB data which proves the official flightpath is bs, seemingly without knowing their testimony proves this... This was clear.

[scar]

Ok, i just went to loose change where there are threads about these kinda thoughts and more:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=435 5
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=438 2
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=440 1
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=441 8

Just reading now. Interesting.

[Serge]

The main idea of the smoking gun episode was to verify the NTSB data which was brilliantly presented and highlighted by PFT. The RE version out soon, is what you have not realised to be the one which provides the hammer blow. Regardless of what was or what was not said in the SG release, the proof that the flight path is to the north of the citgo station has now been confirmed.

What pissed me off, was that you broadcast on the site that it is 'neocon whitewash'. That is way too JREF, and that if you don't alter that perspective, the RE version, said to be 4 hours duration, will damage what you claim. Its putting the cart before the horse, which will cause embarassment. Splitting hairs over where people were by a couple of feet is rather daft. Does not matter where they were to within an inch, the eyes and ears can cope with what is going on over distances much further away.

[rodin]

[spoon]

There is a picture that shows the cloud of smoke rising from the crash site but no sign of a smoke trail. I seen the photo at http://killtown.911review.org/flight93.html its near the bottom.

I'm not trying to say it wasnt shot down I'm just asking "if" there were any witnesses that seen a smoke trail as we have to admit there would have been one somewere in the sky? There maybe was one, I dont know IM JUST ASKING!

As for the Pentagon theory I was asking if there had been any witnesses saying they seen a plane fly over.

I'm not a debunker as I know that day had to be part of some "bigger thing" 19 hijackers doing what they did, i dont think so! There are some questions I want to ask even if that means asking the truthers some.

So again I just want to know if there are any witness accounts for the shoot down theory (there doesnt have to be any for it to have happened) and
also the same for the Pentagon fly over theory? (Again there doesnt have to be any for it to have happened) but this would help me understand if its true or not, thats what all this is about "truth"

Its maybe just me but your reply seemed a bit attacking as if to say "dont ask those questions" if it wasnt then I appologise but if it was then please dont do that as it will obviously turn people against finding out the truth

Thanks

Forgot to add what PM have proved correct (or what I think is correct, they maybe are not?) I will add these later.

[Bongo]

Again however guy's, you miss the point!

We can spend days hypothesising what actually happened.

However, the fact that the official 9/11 story is junk should be enough to achieve our goals!

...Just a thought?