Could they have made the 7:24 train?

[katipo]

I have been reading the information at http://www.financialoutrage.org.uk/trains_luton_to_kings_cross.htm

I have one question.

Could the "bombers" have bought their tickets beforehand eg the previous day and if so, could they then have made it to the train that left at 7:24 in time, from where they were photographed at 7:22?

Katipo

[Akbal13]

ON 7/7 THERE WERE NO TRAINS FROM LUTON UNTIL 8.03 AM - WHICH DID NOT ARRIVE IN KINGS CROSS UNTIL 8.43 AM - THEREFORE NO TIME (only 6 minutes!) TO REACH THE DESTINATIONS TO PLACE
THE BOMBS AT 8.49 AM

CONCLUSION OF EXTENSIVE RESEARCH:

ON 7/7 IT WAS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE
FOR THE 'SUPPOSED' LONDON BOMBERS
TO BE FILMED AT 7.22 AM AT LUTON STATION
AND ALSO CATCH A TRAIN WHICH ARRIVED
AT KINGS CROSS PRIOR TO BEING FILMED AT 8.26 AM...

[katipo]

[quote="Akbal13"]ON 7/7 THERE WERE NO TRAINS FROM LUTON UNTIL 8.03 AM - WHICH DID NOT ARRIVE IN KINGS CROSS UNTIL 8.43 AM - THEREFORE NO TIME (only 6 minutes!) TO REACH THE DESTINATIONS TO PLACE
THE BOMBS AT 8.49 AM

CONCLUSION OF EXTENSIVE RESEARCH:

This assertion is not supported by the research.

If the men had caught the 7:24 train they would have made it to Kings Cross in time too be photographed there at 8:26.

My question is, if the men did not need to go to the ticket office, or if they went there before being photographed at Luton, could they have made it to this train, from where they were photographed at 7:22, before it left?

[Akbal13]

Two minutes only from the time they were caught on the Luton CCTV to get on the departing train (even if they already had tickets)... but on 7/7 were the trains delayed?

:ON 7/7 THERE WERE NO TRAINS FROM LUTON UNTIL 8.03 AM - WHICH :DID NOT ARRIVE IN KINGS CROSS UNTIL 8.43 AM - THEREFORE NO :TIME TO REACH THE DESTINATIONS TO PLACE THE BOMBS AT 8.49 AM

THE POLICE'S OFFICIAL LONDON SUICIDE
BOMBERS STORY TOTALLY DESTROYED

Tape Recording:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/flash/londonbombings.html

Listen to the tape recording of an eye witness who tells us that due to technical problems all trains to London were being stopped at Luton on Thursday 7th July, 2005. The 7.30 AM was cancelled. The 7.40 AM train was cancelled.

The official story 'repeated over and over again' is that all of the bombers assembled at Luton Station and boarded the 7.40 AM train to Kings Cross. That is impossible.

The first train to go from Luton to Kings Cross did not leave until 8.03 AM arriving in Kings Cross at 8.43 AM.

There must be hundreds of other witnesses who can come forward to verify these facts.

This means that the "supposed bombers" did not have time to reach the destinations where the three bombs exploded on the London Underground at 8.49 AM.

This level of detail totally destroys the Police's official story regarding the supposed London Suicide Bombers.

Is there a FLAW in this narration?

Best, rory.

[katipo]

[Akbal13]

This narration is by James Stewart of Financial Outrage ...

ON 7/7 THERE WERE NO TRAINS FROM LUTON UNTIL 8.03 AM ...

Posted by Akbal13 on August 27, 2005, 3:00 am
User logged in as: gilipolla
ON 7/7 THERE WERE NO TRAINS FROM LUTON UNTIL 8.03 AM!!!
Please ensure that you give details of this link to all of your contacts:-
www.financialoutrage.org.uk/no_trains_from_luton_until_8_00_am.htm

ON 7/7 THERE WERE NO TRAINS FROM LUTON UNTIL 8.03 AM - WHICH DID NOT ARRIVE IN KINGS CROSS UNTIL 8.43 AM - THEREFORE NO TIME TO REACH THE DESTINATIONS TO PLACE
THE BOMBS AT 8.49 AM

THE POLICE'S OFFICIAL LONDON SUICIDE
BOMBERS STORY TOTALLY DESTROYED

This is THE STORY that will totally destroy the Police's official story regarding the supposed 7/7 London Bombers - if circulated widely enough - please ensure that it is all over the internet.

I am sending copies of the tape to 'Breaking News' at all UK national media today and then to a list that I have of 668 UK national media journalists tomorrow. If as many people as possible also copy the tape and sent to the national and local media in your countries. Push, shove and chase them until they publish it.

If enough of us do this then we expose this "False Flag" job while it is still hot.

James Stewart
www.FinancialOUTRAGE.org.uk

So despite working with them you disagree with their statement that the first train was delayed and ran at 0803?

[katipo]

[Akbal13]

This is what James Stewart from Financial Outrage (the site you quote) said:

"This is THE STORY that will totally destroy the Police's official story regarding the supposed 7/7 London Bombers - if circulated widely enough - please ensure that it is all over the internet.

I am sending copies of the tape to 'Breaking News' at all UK national media today and then to a list that I have of 668 UK national media journalists tomorrow. If as many people as possible also copy the tape and sent to the national and local media in your countries. Push, shove and chase them until they publish it.

ON 7/7 THERE WERE NO TRAINS FROM LUTON UNTIL 8.03 AM - WHICH DID NOT ARRIVE IN KINGS CROSS UNTIL 8.43 AM - THEREFORE NO TIME TO REACH THE DESTINATIONS TO PLACE
THE BOMBS AT 8.49 AM

THE POLICE'S OFFICIAL LONDON SUICIDE
BOMBERS STORY TOTALLY DESTROYED

Tape Recording:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/flash/londonbombings.html

Listen to the tape recording of an eye witness who tells us that due to technical problems all trains to London were being stopped at Luton on Thursday 7th July, 2005. The 7.30 AM was cancelled. The 7.40 AM train was cancelled.

The official story 'repeated over and over again' is that all of the bombers assembled at Luton Station and boarded the 7.40 AM train to Kings Cross. That is impossible.

The first train to go from Luton to Kings Cross did not leave until 8.03 AM arriving in Kings Cross at 8.43 AM.

There must be hundreds of other witnesses who can come forward to verify these facts.

This means that the "supposed bombers" did not have time to reach the destinations where the three bombs exploded on the London Underground at 8.49 AM.

This level of detail totally destroys the Police's official story regarding the supposed London Suicide Bombers.

Therefore, to massively raise awareness, tell all of your friends, copy the tape and post or E Mail to all of your country's mainstream & local media. Push, shove and chase them until they publish it.

If enough of us do this then we expose this "False Flag" job while it is still hot.

Please ensure that you give details of this link to all of your contacts:-
www.financialoutrage.org.uk/no_trains_from_luton_until_8_00_am.htm


James Stewart
www.FinancialOUTRAGE.org.uk"

I was referring to HIS narration which I assumed you had also read as you quoted the same site in your original posting.

[Keith Mothersson]

The following comes from my entry (investigtive Topics/ LUTON/trains) on www.julyseventh.co.uk. The first part agrees with James and Nick that the 7.40/7.42 story must be wrong.
STARTS
The only other way to make DAC Clarke's report stand up (apart from full disclosure of this CCTV footage and all the
rest of the Kings Cross video footage, of course!) is if the four designated perpetrators arrived on an earlier train. The
only other train the men could therefore have caught is the 7.24 which actually left one minute late at 7.25 according to
Thameslink records. Despite the view of Kollerstrom and Stewart, that this would not give enough time (they estimate
3.30 mins needed), Brian Blessed has timed the walk at from 1 minute 20 seconds to 2 mins (depending on which
platform the '7.24' (7.25) left that day, and assuming that Jamal Lindsay, the man from Aylesbury, had already bought
four tickets, including Zone 1 tube tickets.) http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?9.871.20
Note also: another picture of Hasib Hussain has been shown to us at Luton climbing the stairs. He does not seem to be
in any hurry, and in this photo the time strap has been removed. Why? Could it just possibly be because the time is
after 7.25?

VERDICT:
The police mantra that the men got the 7.40 is definitely wrong. However there does seem a significant window of
opportunity for the men to have caught the 7.24, which probably left at 7.25. So the fact that the police are wrong about the
7.40 train could just be an innocent mistake, which doesn't in itself discredit the main alleged evidence concerning the four
being captured on CCTV at Kings cross (which station??) at 8.26 that morning. A video which we have still not been shown!

All these anomalies and suspicions could easily be cleared up if we were to be shown a full and connected video narrative
(not just an isolated still) of the 4 suspects passing under the very numerous cameras along Luton's station's corridors, stairs
and walkways and on the platform from which they are understood to have caught their train, followed by footage from the
Thameslink station right along and through to the platforms they must have used to have been able to get the Circle Line
and Picadilly trains they are said to have boarded.

Let Justice be seen to be done!

[Seb]

Interesting, I'm keeping an open mind.

Either way, we got a neat plug on the Voltaire Network:

It was physically impossible for the London “suicide bombers” to have made the moves attributed to them!

[A Sharp Major]

I'm new to the site and late to this thread but at least I've given Akbal a chance to calm down. Chill dude!

Is it possible that the Luton CCTV clock was fast? Why should we suppose it was synchronised with other CCTV clocks? It is very likely a stand alone camera, maybe connected to other Luton cameras but not London ones. The clock in the camera that photographed the only photos released to date of the Pentagon strike is about 33 hours fast. Nobody is suggesting that that event didn't happen on 9/11 based on a single camera clock.

[Prole]

I complained to the BBC about a recent Horizon programme that showed these 4 young men catching the 7.48 Luton Thameslink train and reaching Kings Cross at 8.26.
http://www.officialconfusion.com/77/train/horizon77.wmv

[astro3]

The answer to 'Could they have made the 7.24 train' is very simple. It left at 7.25 that morning, one minute late, and so - yes, they could have done, especially if Jermain Lindsey had bought the tickets beforehand (He supposedly got there early). BUT that train did not get into King's Cross Thameslink until 08.23, because there were big delays on that route that morning. The CCTV picture which the police supposedly saw (but have never made public) filmed them in the main station at 8.26. It takes about 7 minutes to walk from the Thameslink station, over the crowded main road, into the main station.
So, even if they did catch that train, it still would not have got them to King's Cross in time.

CONCLUSION: THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO TRAIN THAT MORNING WHICH WOULD HAVE ENABLED THE LADS FROM LEEDS TO BE FILMED BOTH AT LUTON AT 07.22 AND AT KING'S CROSS MAIN STATION AT 08.29.
Q.E.D., FINITO, END OF ARGUMENT.

Note: James Stuart has had to take down his front page which had all our the timable-info summarised (he got a job, has to tone things down) so you may have to consult mine instead:
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?871
'Did the 07.40 run from luton?'
This table shows the actual trains that ran that morning:

Booked dep. Actual dep. time Arrival at K's Cross Thames.
07.16 07.21 08.19
07.20 On time 08.15
07.24 07.25 08.23
07.30 07.42 08.39
07.40 Cancelled n/a
07.48 07.56 08.42

[Ally]