BBC Announced WTC7 COLLAPSE before it happened! smoking gun

[johndoe]

"Well that's fascinating, because the photo comes from 75 Park Place's own website :

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=75parkplace-newyorkcity-ny-usa"

first and foremost that's emporis' website not 75 park places'. and second of all if you even bothered to check it is even labelled as the view to the north

http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=486439

you see the bit where it says "the view to the north"? that means...... it's the view to the north.

[Johnny Pixels]

[Ignatz]

[johndoe]

""75 Park Place" is part of the URL, and the 2 photos show 75 Park Place. "


that doesn't make it a "website"

"The building is described as 14-storeys high, which it is, and therefore clearly not the building in the BBC film either by height or design. "

counted the floors on the video then?

oh and you still haven't managed to identify that red sandstone building.

[Ignatz]

[johndoe]

http://www.postalmuseum.si.edu/images/resources/6g1_2_WTC.jpg

(sorry about the circled bit, i couldn't find the original)

simply find the position of the camera that would give the shot shown on the video, oh and if you're feeling really clever point out the red sand stone building and how it could obscure so much of a building 4 times it's size.

[Ignatz]

[johndoe]

"75 Park Place is much too low to be the building in the BBC film. "

and the red sandstone building is much to high for it to be wtc 7. unless of course you can find out what that building is and account for it's dimensions.

[Mr-Bridger]

These two pics shows whereabouts the footage was shot from, its a sideview.

the same building infront of WTC7 is circled in both

[Ignatz]

hehehehehe

OK I'll play along but only because I've had a few drinks.
The building you circled in black in photo #1 is The Verizon, which is immediately to the W side of WTC7, not the N.
If the BBC's was a side-shot as per your arrow, we would see the narrow W face of WTC7. We don't. We see the N face, the one with the dark band in the centre of the upper few storeys.

p.s. I can't resist a troll. Never could, never will.

[Mr-Bridger]

If you look at this footage http://www.amny.com/news/local/groundzero/ny-verizonvideo0519,0,893823 .realvideo?coll=am-multimedia-wtc


Notice how the white building with the slanted roof is in the same position

or this taken from teh same side, just alot lower. Notice the the metalwork on the roof.

[marky 54]

ive looked at the picture above and the still taken from the news footage and something is clearly amiss.

in the above photo it clearly shows the buildings are side by side. yet in the news footage the building in the photo above this post is clearly infront of wtc7's face not side by side, has somebody been moving buildings around or is my prespective wrong?

[marky 54]

ok using the smoke as a guideline you can pinpoint where the towers would of stood, so wtc 7 is in the correct place, so either the building infront should not be where we see, or there is a simular building ferther away from wtc7 that cannot be seen on the above map of the area.

surely the smoke would be the opposite side if the look at the vantage point being suggested on the map with the arrow.

so the vantage point is looking in the direction of the parkplace building but the building in the foreground proves tampering of the footage a.k.a a disinfo peice to later discredit 9/11 truth or the building is ferther away and the map dosnt show it.

sorry for the many edits i kept having to recheck to make sure im confident i have it right .

dont forget buildings in the foreground also appear bigger than compared to those in the background could the building be one of those white buildings or off white buildings on the map?

like the one infront of parkplace? remember where they are stood and prespective is the key. the antenna on the building in the news footage dosnt seem to have the same detail as the building itself and could be on a building ferther away making it appear as if it is on the building in question on the news clip also i cannot identify the antenna to be sure its the same as in the above photo.

bah this is getting confusing but you have to try and piture their vantage point once the veiw is seen from nearer ground level.

[Mr-Bridger]

If you look at the map, Park Place will be behind the white building with the sloping roof, Even on the map it shows Park Place to be alot lower than this white building so will not be seen from this vantage point.

[johndoe]

okay lets look at mr bridger's building he has circled, too see that building and the wtc 7 in line you would end up looking at the side of wtc 7 which isn't what we see in the footage.

"dont forget buildings in the foreground also appear bigger than compared to those in the background Rolling Eyes could the building be one of those white buildings or off white buildings on the map?

like the one infront of parkplace? remember where they are stood and prespective is the key."

you can judge perspective and distance in a photo from detail like the size of the windows for instance.

[telecasterisation]

Surely the most important aspect is the perspective recorded from where Jane Standley was on the day? If she was on a fairly low floor, then the building in the foreground would appear the same height as the WTC7. All the ancillary views that are being posted only aid the relative position not the view we have from her position.

She could only have been in Merrill Lynch or The Mercantile Exchange.

[Ignatz]

[johndoe]

just because bridger was wrong that doesn't make you right, you have yet to find out the angle and location of the shot and what that red sand stone building is.

[Mr-Bridger]

Please note in the BBC pic Number 3 is BEHIND number 1

So as you see that is the side of WTC7.

If you can prove i am wrong please, supply the evidence on here.

I also agree with one of the posters above :

`She could only have been in Merrill Lynch or The Mercantile Exchange.

[telecasterisation]

The more I study the screen grab from the BBC video, the more it becomes difficult to interpret.

What are the buildings in the foreground marked with the red dots? Or rather, WHERE are they in the aerial photo? The view from Merrill Lynch and The Mercantile Exchange (where Jane Standley was probably located on the day), appears to be unrestricted by any mass of shorter buildings as the videp suggests.

Where exactly was she on the day?

[Winston Smith 101]

The view from the BBC


Similar line of view but from a greater elevation. Note the red brick building in front.


and to prove it is the same building that collapsed...

[Ignatz]

All very interesting, but totally academic.

The building behind the "red brick" building that johndoe originally describes as 75 Park Place is clearly WTC7, as Winston has shown.
p.s. Winston how did you get such a clear clip from the BBC news film? Maybe I need a better screen...

Tele - at a rough guess, the red building *appears* to be 2 blocks N of the Postal Building and 1 E of 75 Pk Pl, about 4 o'clock from your #3 on the overhead photo. Which would place the BBC at NE of WTC7 during filming.
I'd say your #1 on the BBC screen clip is misidentified. The yellow #1 on the picture is a much bigger building, and out of shot (to the right) on the BBC clip. My 2p.

[telecasterisation]

[johndoe]

"The building behind the "red brick" building that johndoe originally describes as 75 Park Place is clearly WTC7, as Winston has shown. "

ah you win some you lose some, but since we have spent such a long time trying to identify the location of the shot it can be forgiven.

[Ignatz]

or maybe behind the red building at the very bottom right. But I can't say I'm happy about it, except there's a gun to my head.
The angles over to the Woolworth building look wrong relative to the "Red" building in front of WTC7. Also the Red building in the TV shot seems too narrow, but I suppose that might be a TV effect.

[telecasterisation]

[EmptyBee]

http://911wtc.freehostia.com/gallery/originalimages/GJS-WTC97.jpg

The above link shows an elevated view of Manhattan following the collapse of WTC1 & 2 but before the collapse of WTC7.

The red Western Union building is in the centre-left foreground, this is clearly visible behind Jane Standley throughout the BBC footage. WTC7 is beyond to the south. The pyramidal topped American Express building to the west of WTC7 and the spire-like Woolworth building to the east can be both seen in the above image, and they are both visible in the BBC footage when the camera shot is at its widest.

[Ignatz]

[telecasterisation]

[Ignatz]