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BBC2 The Trap - What Happened to Our Dreams of Freedom

 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: BBC2 The Trap - What Happened to Our Dreams of Freedom Reply with quote

On TV at 9pm.

SOMEONE RECORD PLEASE!!!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like its going to be very worthwhile
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John White wrote:
Looks like its going to be very worthwhile


What I found fascinating about this first episode ;

1) How hollywood managed to make a hero out of a clearly derranged character - John Nash - from who's "games", based upon predertermined, and warped assumptions about the nature of human behaviour such studies drew their sick conclusions.

2) That the nature of these conclusions about the behaviour of the Human species was that we are essentially....dare I say it.... reptillian by nature.

Numerous references made to such institutions of integrety ( NOT) such as the Randi institute - We have a clue as to how these fruitcakes think in critics corner.

But then again, the people conducting the study, and subsequently making the policies for humanity are most likely basing their understanding of human nature after theirselves.

What more can I say Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Numerous references made to such institutions of integrety ( NOT) such as the Randi institute - We have a clue as to how these fruitcakes think in critics corner.


Not the same people

http://www.rand.org/

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:44 am    Post subject: Recorded Reply with quote

Hi FixUpLookSharp, I've recorded it (was busy myself last night) so PM me if you want me to send a copy of the DVD.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool for recording it. is there any chance you could just upload it to google video? then i can send links to people?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i cant believe people aren't talking about this. It was an exceptional documentary. Curtis has done it again. I look forward to the upcoming ones.

century of the self
power of nightmares
now this

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is the info for next weeks episode:

Adam Curtis continues his series of films explaining the origins of our contemporary, narrow and limited idea of freedom.

This episode tells the story of how, in the 1990s, politicians from both right and left tried to apply an idea of freedom modelled on the freedom of the market to all other areas of society.

Behind it was a scientific model of ourselves as simplified robots, rational calculating beings whose behavior and even feelings could be predicted by numbers. Out of this came today's systems of management - from performance targets to the new categories of mental disorder, and reading the genetic codes buried inside us.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did post a torrent, but it was B/S

Early download:

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/03/11/18375640.php

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torrent here:

http://btmon.com/Video/Unsorted/The_Trap_ndash_What_Happened_To_Our_Dr eam_Of_Freedom_E01.torrent.html

600Mb so it should be good quality.

No log-in. Only one seeder at present. Got a steady d/l of 6 kB/s

I actually recorded it but it would take longer to encode for the web than it will take to d/l.

Whoah! Up to 30 kB/s as I type!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Five seeds now. Looks healthy.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="John White"]I did post a torrent, but it was B/S

Early download:

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/03/11/18375640.php[/quote]

maybe you would like to elaborate on why it was BS....
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fixuplooksharp wrote:
John White wrote:
I did post a torrent, but it was B/S

Early download:

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/03/11/18375640.php


maybe you would like to elaborate on why it was BS....


becuase it was well over a gig and nothing was happening with it anyway

So thats the torrent was B/S: the programme is sheer gold TV!

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