7/7/05: why is this on this forum?

[deviate23]

I find it hard to believe that the four "suspects" in the london bombing were caught on video in Luton, how do they arrive at the conclusion that these "terrorists" got on a train in Luton, yet don't know where they got off or have video evidence of them getting off at a London station, surely some video must be available of them getting off the train together or was that video inextricably not working either. Pure speculation of course but could these four be being set up. Found ID (Atta from 9-11 and the found passport) etc. Smells suspect to me. If im off target forgive me but im new to this and have been presented with lots of information about 7-7 and 9-11 which im still wading through.
On subject of 9-11 has anyone noticed that George Bush Snr annonced the New World Order on Sept 11 1991. Coincidence? all 9's and 11's again.

[freddie]

Hey Deviate,

Welcome to the forum. About the announcement of the 'NWO' - I have heard it said that the famous speech of his was given on 9-11 / 1991 (10 years to the day before 9-11) - I tried to find out if this was true but have not found the transcript of the speech anywhere - From what I read it seems it may have been a different date, but I may be wrong.

Can anyone clear this one up because if it is true it is surely another huge coincidence to add to the pile we already have.

[ian neal]

It was 11 years earlier 11/9/1990

...."We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -- a new world order -- can emerge: a new era -- freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony. A hundred generations have searched for this elusive path to peace, while a thousand wars raged across the span of human endeavor. Today that new world is struggling to be born, a world quite different from the one we've known. A world where the rule of law supplants the rule of the jungle. A world in which nations recognize the shared responsibility for freedom and justice. A world where the strong respect the rights of the weak. This is the vision that I shared with President Gorbachev in Helsinki. He and other leaders from Europe, the Gulf, and around the world understand that how we manage this crisis today could shape the future for generations to come."

".....they serve together with Arabs, Europeans, Asians, and Africans in defense of principle and the dream of a new world order"

Transcript of speech

[freddie]

Wicked, cheers Ian, that was the speech I meant

[emil]

Are you guys thinking 9/11 was planned 11 years in advance?
Emil

[freddie]

Emil, no I certainly don't think it was planned anywhere near that long ago - But from Big Daddy Bush's speech it appears that the 'direction' of the neocons was being made public this long ago.

[Newspeak International]

Hi all,

I've just visited this site WWW.Illusionsforum.com the 9/11 thread about 7/7,and what I saw bears a striking resemblance to the 911 scenario.



(Apoligies if site already posted)


NI

[numeral]

HI newspeak I

I tried this site but got nowhere. What do I have to do to see the 7/7 section?

[paul wright]

Illusions seems to be down at present
Forums for free would seem to be the only link
Perhaps its bandwidth problems
Perhaps John White will explain

[Newspeak International]

[ian neal]