Apollo Moon Landings Faked?

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[Ignatz]

[Craig W]

Ignatz said:

"Generally though - incompetence, greed, accident, greed, short-termism, incompetence and greed are far more often the culprits, especially in these political/economic so-called 'conspiracies'."



I don't understand why you use the prevalence of greed in human affairs as evidence against teh existence of conspiracies.

Do you not see that greed is a prime motive in pretty much all conspiracies?

Why conspire to do something if you've got nothing to gain from it?

Do you think greed operates exclusively in a non-conspiritorial manner?

This argument makes no sense.

[Celtic King]

I have written extensively about this subject - this was the biggest con ever.... absolutely no way did man ever set foot on the Moon... how could we be so dumb as to believe we actually did? Thats the power of having NAZI criminals in charge of government who are in charge of powerful countries. It seems they can say and do whatever they like - and they have been doing it for decades... Its one big illusion folks...once the moon landings have been dealt with, start looking into the "secret" war in space... we are not alone in this universe, thats a fact, and the American government is involved in a secret war with ET - shooting down UFOs with high-tech plasma beam weapons launched from the Earths surface... absolutely fascinating stuff.....

http://www.secretspacedvd.com/

Humans are such evil people...we should be embracing ET not trying to kill him... havent we learned anything in this god-forsaken existence?


Cheers

[karlos]

Moon landings are 100% fake.
And it is good you brought this subject up because it demonstrates what these guys will do to rob the US taxpayer of money.

If you watch the show Life on Mars. and think the people were backward, consider the fact that the moon landings supposidly took place in the sixties four years prior to Life on Mars.

911 was the same type of operation updated for the modern era. Pyrotechnics. Cameras strategically placed. So called experts waiting with false stories to appear on news bullitins. Even the BBC and the wtc7 presentation are reminiscent of the spin surrounding the moon landings.

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[Ignatz]

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Having switched the topic to OBL, I then asked a question which you eruditely sidestepped. When you do that, I can only conclude that is a doozy which you prefer not to tackle.

The astronaut scenario is about right - there is no way that they could have passed through Van Allen and lived - radiation would have killed them stone dead - if not then, then very soon afterwards. The protection afforded by that bean tin = no chance.

You ask me to believe that SIX missions went to the moon and not one person died?

Prior to D-Day, the Germans were fooled by countless decoys and ploys, rubber and wooden tanks, fake aircraft, fake troop movements, tents and camps - why not the world 25 years later? Is it really so hard to believe?

[blackcat]

[karlos]

the astronauts really went to space, but in near earth orbit.
Waited until the right time and re entered.
Remember when you tell a lie you must keep it say 99% true and 1% lie otherwise you get caught.

only the moon landings were faked. Take off and re entry are genuine,

[Ignatz]

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[Ignatz]

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Ignatz;

[karlos]

moon landings hoax is 911 related.
You see it is a pattern of behaviour and manipulation of the public that has gone on since the nazis burnt the reichstadt in 1933 and blamed it on the jews and the poles.
The moon landings were faked to counter a percieved threat from the USSR in the sixties.
Kennedy was killed to counter a percieved threat to the secret societies he wanted to expose.
Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, as well as hundreds of politicians overseas have been executed/assasinated.
This whole chronology of faked events and mis information started with darwin and his theory of evolution.
Darwin is taught in schools as though it were fact. The moon landings are taught in scholls as though they really happened and 911 will be taught in the same way in history unless people like us can bring about changes.

Most of what we are told today on the news is lies. Bird flu, vaccines. flouride, health, diet, politics, what is good for you what is bad for you and what is right and what is wrong.

Question if we went to the moon in the sixties why are we not going there now regularly when it is a damn sight easier now?
Question if we went to the moon why was all the footage faked, what happened to the real footage?
Why have none of the astronauts agreed to take a lie detector test?
Why cant we see the landing site using a telescope when we can see far away galaxies and we can see lunar landscape very clearly?
How come no two astronauts tell the same story regarding any question they are asked?

[Ignatz]

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[karlos]

We have not been to the moon.
But if we were to try it would be slightly easier now. In 1969 a computer occupied a whole building of several stories. Now that same computer sits on our tabletop.
Materials have significantly improved such as clothing and metals as well as fuels.

However i agree it is still probably impossible to go until they develop a radiation proof suit or spacecraft. Cost is not an issue the budget of NASA is huge. The fact is cost is used as an excuse why they have not done it. The reality is they havent done it because they cant. Money is no problem.

[Johnny Pixels]

Can someone please show me the calculations for the radiation exposure and the dose the astronauts would receive? I'd like to see how they are done, as I spent time training as an industrial radiographer and had more than my fair share of exposure to radiation.

And secondly, why is near Earth orbit believable and Moon orbit not? It is merely a matter of ejecting from Earth orbit, flying to the moon and inserting into near moon orbit. That's just timing and maths.

[johndoe]

"In 1969 a computer occupied a whole building of several stories. Now that same computer sits on our tabletop."

not true.

and if we are to argue that the radiation belts stop humans going through...... you do realise that it would wreck electronic circuits as well?

starfish prime being the prime example (oooh a pun)

and so all extra-terrestial missions would be impossible.

and is the iss faked too? mir?

[blackcat]

[Bushwacker]

[johndoe]

"Yes it is. I won't bother providing any evidence since you didn't either. "

no blackcat it depends on the computer. you can still get computer the size of rooms nowadays. and you could get small computers back then. it all depends on the power.

now you might now wonder how much computing power was in apollo 11? got a microwave? that's a good indication.

the computer was very very * on apollo 11 and it failed anyway which is why armstrong needed to take the controls during the descent.

"Why? How? There is a big difference between ruining signals and wrecking equipment."

radiation destroys electrical equipment. it's why emp bombs are all the rage. it's why a third of all satellites went down after starfish prime.

"Are you saying that the radiation from the Van Allen belt can destroy inanimate substance as well? Drivel"

it's well documented. radiation breaks electrical equipment.

maybe you shouldn't call things drivel that you have no idea about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_hazards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime

"These man-made radiation belts eventually crippled one-third of all satellites in low orbit. "

"It can also overload and destroy electrical equipment."

blackcat how about you educate yourself before you speak on topics you have no knowledge of in future?

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[rodin]

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[Ignatz]

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