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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: prophesy cabala revelation and scripture. Reply with quote

Anyone else here interested in this aspect.
I have thousands of observations of this kind.
For example: 666=FOX, why? Numerologically (cabalistically) every letter from 1 to 9 has an equal nr. A=1 B=2 C=3 etc. arriving at 10 11 12 one adds the total making 10=1 11 =2 12=3 etc. This can be represented in a chart by writing the numbers 1 thru 9 across a page and setting the alphabet in rows of 9 letters each underneath, giving 3 rows of letters and allotting therefore 3 letters to each number. In the case of 6 this is digets 6 15 and 24 which are F O X (in that order).
But this is a very small example. Anyone want to see the rest?
I ask first as it's a lot of writing if no one is interested and I can take it in all directions so also depends what someone is most interested in.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gematria using words of the English language is illegitimate because its alphabet has 26 letters, whereas gematria was originally based upon the sacred alphabet of Hebrew, which uses 22 letters (27, including the five finals) whose English equivalents do not follow the order found in the Hebrew alphabet. English is not a sacred language, and it is illegitimate to turn English words into numbers and then to compare them. Numerology can be fun. But that's all it is. It is not true gematria, which requires working with the letters of a sacred language like Hebrew.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gematria using words of the English language is illegitimate because its alphabet has 26 letters, whereas gematria was originally based upon the sacred alphabet of Hebrew, which uses 22 letters (27, including the five finals) whose English equivalents do not follow the order found in the Hebrew alphabet. English is not a sacred language, and it is illegitimate to turn English words into numbers and then to compare them. Numerology can be fun. But that's all it is. It is not true gematria, which requires working with the letters of a sacred language like Hebrew.

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Well that is a matter of opinion, some would beg to differ and tell you that the true original angelic language was English and even many, and many a legend would claim even that NEW JERUSALEM Is in the UK.
It's a question of perspective and english language seems to work so much better at hitting the nail on the head every time whereas I find the jewish cabala finds extremely weak and no more than an attempt to copy the true angelic cabala. Everything about it reeks man made.
Your turn.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

666 = (60-6-200-400)

n his 1908 lectures on the Apocalypse Rudolf Steiner shows that the name of this third Beast is S-v-r-t, (Sorath/Surath) the Sun Demon. (60-6-200-400 in kabbalistic gematria) This name is related to Sura and Asura, Ahura. Ernst Bindel notes that it is the short form of Suriel (My company is with God) Sarhapanim (Angel of the Face of God). From Suria comes the feminine form Suriath. This being originally had the task of guarding the sunlight during the night and returning it to God in the morning.(1) In kabbalistic esotericism the name S-v-r-t also means: Samech (physical body), Vau (life body), Resh (feeling body), Tau (earthly ego) i.e. the four lower members of Man.

http://www.monju.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/OccSig1998.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you lost me, I have come to find that if the sourse is pure it will be so simple a child can understand it without knowledge of the Kaballah (secret-covert teachings).which are covert because they can't face the light of true scrutiny.
What I'm trying to say is that the world is being contolled by a secretive organization using complicated secret symbols impersonating the creator.
On the other hand the creator has his own secret or cabalistic language that is just as in your face as theirs yet it is so simple a child can see it.
All my finding I have from children.
The scroll with seven seals/omega code/ark of the covenent/rod of measure/holy grail are all within reach of only the most simple of minds.
I can demonstrate them.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well you lost me, I have come to find that if the sourse is pure it will be so simple a child can understand it without knowledge of the Kaballah (secret-covert teachings).which are covert because they can't face the light of true scrutiny.


Jesus himself gave 'covert' teachings. Esoteric to his disiples and Exoteric to the masses.

Mark 4: "Then when they were by themselves, his close followers and the twelve asked about the parables, and he told them: 'The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those who do not know the secret, everything remains in parables, so that, seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand lest haply they should turn again, and it should be forgiven them.'"

You talk about a pure source. Here is a snippet from a lecture Rudolf Steiner gave to priests in 1924. He died in 1925. Notice anything interesting about the date he mentions?

The Beast will be let loose from its imprisonment in the earth; that is what the comet is in the cosmic sense. that the Beast will be let loose is significant for the development of human beings. Such things are exceedingly powerful realities, great and significant points in the evolution of humanity and of the earth.

In 1933, dear friends, there would be a possibility for the earth and everything living on it to perish if there did not exist also that other wise arrangement that cannot be calculated. Once comets have taken on other forms calculations can no longer be accurate. What needs to be said in the sense meant by the apocalyptist is: Before the Etheric Christ can be comprehended by human beings in the right way, humanity must first cope with encountering the Beast who will rise up in 1933. This is what the apocalyptic language tells us. Here a view of spirit unites with a view of nature. What is there in the cosmos becomes clear to us in its fundamental spiritual character. Take the way the peasants described what they saw in 1872 as they stood and watched the shower of light, and add to it what the spirit tells us as I have described it, and compare this with many of the descriptions in the Book of Revelation, and you will see that even the very words used match one another. You will see that the Book of Revelation is speaking of actual natural events.

- "The Book of Revelation and the Work of the Priest" (Lecture 16, Dornach 20 Sept 1924, GA 346 )


Maybe get this book from your local library and read lecture 16.

How about Steiner's revelation in 1909 that there were two Jesus Children?

http://www.transintelligence.org/Occult%20Christological%20Research/we retheretwo.htm

Backed up by the Dead Sea Scrolls forund in 1947:

http://biblical-studies.ca/dss/introductions/2Messiah.html

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I have come to find that if the sourse is pure it will be so simple a child can understand it


Reality, it seems, is not simple and don't forget that children grow up.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a follower of Steiner, Crowly, Hitler, this is too simple for you, forget it.
Right brain function is required not "left only".
What you doing on this board anyway as illuminati worshipper?
I can quote Jezus all day to refute what you say (not that it makes ANY kinda sense in the first place), but it would be a waste of both our times.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fourddream wrote:
As a follower of Steiner, Crowly, Hitler, this is too simple for you, forget it.
Right brain function is required not "left only".
What you doing on this board anyway as illuminati worshipper?
I can quote Jezus all day to refute what you say (not that it makes ANY kinda sense in the first place), but it would be a waste of both our times.


My you are confused.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm kinda glad that you believe so.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fourddream wrote:
I'm kinda glad that you believe so.


Belief has nothing to do with it. I know!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad you feel you know something but my post was a question to people who ARE interested in what I have. It is unique, whereas anyone who wants to know about wassisname can google him and read all the wonders of his blood philosophies etc.
What I have is unpublished and will stay that way.
Jezus had to speak in parables at the time, he was hakking their matrix, he said "but the time will come that I will speak to you in clear language".
That time has come. For anyone who has ears to hear.
Thankyou Father that you have given these little ones to understand what the wise cannot.
The harvest is great but the workers definately few.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fourddream wrote:
What I have is unpublished and will stay that way.


I can understand why.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fourddream wrote:
As a follower of Steiner, Crowly, Hitler, this is too simple for you, forget it.
Right brain function is required not "left only".
What you doing on this board anyway as illuminati worshipper?
I can quote Jezus all day to refute what you say (not that it makes ANY kinda sense in the first place), but it would be a waste of both our times.


So you accuse me of being a follower of Hitler?


“I consider the Anthroposophical worldview, which is in every way internationally and pacifistically oriented, to be quite simply incompatible with National Socialism. The National Socialist worldview is built upon the conception of blood, race, and Volk, and then also, on the conception of the absolute state. Precisely these two fundamental pillars of the National Socialist worldview and the Third Reich are denied by the anthroposophical worldview. […] Every study and activity involving anthroposophy necessarily has its source in the anthroposophical worldview. This means that schools built upon the anthroposophical worldview and managed by anthroposophists are a danger to true German education […]”
Jakob Wilhelm Hauer to the Security Service (Sicherheitsdienst RFSS), Oberabschnitt Süd-West, Stuttgart, on February 7th, 1935. (Archival source: BAD R 4901-3285. Hauer)


Your research sucks.

Now, what was that about brains?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"We have seen that blood united to blood in the case of but remotely connected species of animals, kills; blood united to blood in the case of more closely allied species of animals does not kill. The physical organism of man survives when strange blood comes in contact with strange blood, [except, of course, in the case of incompatible blood types, which mutually coagulate one another,] but clairvoyant power perishes under the influence of this mixing of blood, or exogamy." -- Rudolf Steiner (Occult Significance of Blood, 1906)

The Illuminati are democrats, liberals communists, catholics, islamics, theosophists, bolsjewits, anthroposophen, new agers, jihaddists or anything they need to be.
They are occultists playing all sides out against each other in order to sow devision and above all confusion.
If that's what you came to this thread to do then you are being very successful aren't you.
Dabble in the occult to your peril. Not mine.
I have absolutely no interest in these occultists aside from understanding how they tick. Thankyou for all your wisdom but this discussion you bring here is an old one. As your quote confirms, copy pasted from another discussion of this sort.
I'm not discussing wassisname with you, it's obviouis you live and breath the guy but avoid quoting him. I have better to do with my time really.
Like I said this thread is about something else altogether.
You say it's obvious why I don't publish, so tell me why I don't.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because you are confused.

micpsi wrote:
Gematria using words of the English language is illegitimate because its alphabet has 26 letters, whereas gematria was originally based upon the sacred alphabet of Hebrew, which uses 22 letters (27, including the five finals) whose English equivalents do not follow the order found in the Hebrew alphabet. English is not a sacred language, and it is illegitimate to turn English words into numbers and then to compare them. Numerology can be fun. But that's all it is. It is not true gematria, which requires working with the letters of a sacred language like Hebrew.


Listen to micpsi.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you wish. You'll have to try harder for that.
But this thread has become very confused since you stepped in to take it over but hey I'm an easy going person, so be my guest it's all yours.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gibson wrote:
fourddream wrote:
As a follower of Steiner, Crowly, Hitler, this is too simple for you, forget it.
Right brain function is required not "left only".
What you doing on this board anyway as illuminati worshipper?
I can quote Jezus all day to refute what you say (not that it makes ANY kinda sense in the first place), but it would be a waste of both our times.


So you accuse me of being a follower of Hitler?


“I consider the Anthroposophical worldview, which is in every way internationally and pacifistically oriented, to be quite simply incompatible with National Socialism. The National Socialist worldview is built upon the conception of blood, race, and Volk, and then also, on the conception of the absolute state. Precisely these two fundamental pillars of the National Socialist worldview and the Third Reich are denied by the anthroposophical worldview. […] Every study and activity involving anthroposophy necessarily has its source in the anthroposophical worldview. This means that schools built upon the anthroposophical worldview and managed by anthroposophists are a danger to true German education […]”
Jakob Wilhelm Hauer to the Security Service (Sicherheitsdienst RFSS), Oberabschnitt Süd-West, Stuttgart, on February 7th, 1935. (Archival source: BAD R 4901-3285. Hauer)


Your research sucks.

Now, what was that about brains?


BTW that is ALL so LEFT brain and as research goes, you have no idea what my research is. I was asking if anyone was interested in it. You say it sucks without seeing it and use the thread as a place to push your wassy worship. I should tell you to start a wassy thread for those who want to discuss him with you but like I already said: it's all yours, enjoy.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW that is ALL so RIGHT brain.
Like I said this thread is about something else altogether.


Carry on.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

like I said, all yours enjoy. I'll start another if you promise not to follow me around.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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like I said, all yours enjoy. I'll start another if you promise not to follow me around.


Please...... carry on.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So people welkom to the wassisname thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So people welkom to the wassisname thread.


No really, I want to learn more about your numerology 'system'.
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