9/11 can cause family strife

[malcks]

got to go know THE WIFE'S CRACKING UP (not drugs!)
anyone else got the same problem?

[paul wright]

[adam1]

yeah, just goes to the show the enormity of the threshold one has to cross- once you've got it you're changed forever - have compassion, try and prepare their minds for the truth, but be prepared to move on if necessary. Easy to say I know.....

[John White]

[malcks]

i'll let you go and buy a NEW MOTORBIKE TODAY if you stop this was her parting words this morning(now i dont know what to do!) see the problem i have is three kids a dog,rabbitand the goldfish they just dont listen anymore, and i cant shake this 9/11 lie out of my head
people need to know the truth,but question is will i make that happen?
help

[flamesong]

[alfsevic]

hi malcs,
well, I don´t think it´s worth ruining your family for this, I mean you know 9/11 was an inside job, and you have to accept that you are one of a minority. I have never voted for a party that won in my life and must live with that. If a Jehovas Witness knocks my door and wants to change my point of view I say piß off even though he or she is a devout believer. Also on this forum we get a lot of nonsense like someone feels offended and retaliates with insult, is insulted back, and it goes on and on and on, just don´t read it and you´ve got more time for something else.
I hope you get it sorted alfsevic.

[malcks]

thanx for that alfsevic, you see i would'nt mind both bike and bird
its hard to stop when you no the truth,one we have to try and work out
mrs is at work just now (florist mothers day)better not get caught
thanx again

[Thermate]

try and chill a bit, take a break, do/read/watch nothing to do with 911 for a month. don't ruin your marriage mate, it has to come first.

[Pikey]

[John White]

[Craig W]

[jackchit]

[paul wright]

[paul wright]

Christ, jackchit, that's an awful tale with a [nervous sniggering] happy ending

[paul wright]

[alfsevic]

I spent about forty years of my life believing the bbc and cnn nonsense, my wife was always a disbeliever and despised even the old bush. she said serbia was a war crime afghanistan and iraq too. Then, through the internet I came across loose change which although not perfect changed my view 180°. Now, our relationship has improved, we sit sometimes and search for lies in the newspaper together, so all you really need is one article that could change the point of view of your spouse. I would recommend pictures of iraqi or Afghan kids with there limbs blown off, or maybe an american napalm attack. The reason for these wars as bliar tells us is 9/11.

[jackchit]

[paul wright]

[paul wright]

[marky 54]

i see some people are getting strife from the wives, lets face it and be honest it would be no differant if you were tinkering with the car constantly or going to the pub alot.

its hard to suggest what to do, but i just explained that something is happening and it will effect our lives regardless of if we want it to or not and that i need to keep informed as to what is happening to at least be prepared for what ever lies ahead, i then explained the things that are said to be happening and the potential consequences if they are true.

market crash, peak oil, global warming, big brother, police state, slaves, news channels spewing properganda, culling, 9/11, 7/7, etc etc i explained what is being said about each thing from both sides of the arguement and then said someone is lieing.

i then explained that some of the evidence cannot be backed up from the offical side or proved wrong from the theorists side which is concerning because it suggests some of the above to be true.

i then said that it cannot be ignored when it could effect the future for the worse and the near future at that, "all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" etc.

i said both sides cannot be right but both are trying to inforce their view therefore one side must have bad motives and i need to keep informed.

maybe you need a serious chat to explain the importance and sigificance of the subject in question because of the consequences of it being ignored.

if we all leave it for someone else to do then there is no stopping or changing evil things from happening.

[peloloco]

Malcks, you are not alone there mate. Of course it is a strange and turbulent time after any awakening. I think that the most important struggles are not without but within yourself. Tough questions you have to ask yourself every day which nothing in our lives have fully prepared us for.

I have been called selfish which was quite strange when you are thinking about the future of humanity and not the next 100GB Nano.

Self obsessed which yes in some way I have been as I ask myself who the hell I am, what am I to do all the while bring in the bacon and remain "insane" enough to exist in this world of people who remain in the comfy bubble which you are trying to pop.

I think Mine may be falling apart, I have a 9 month old little girl and she loves me to bits as I do her. Mum is lovely too. I think I just may have learned a few lessons too late. We'll see.

She knows all about it, she is not interested though as "there is nothing I can do". Saying that I have definitely got through to at least 8 people close to me in a sense that they are actively looking for themselves and openly talking about 911 being an inside job and they tell me not to stress too much as I am doing my bit.

Well good luck, hang in there, you need a place of refuge from this stuff sometimes and a good woman will always do that.

Sometimes true wisdom is only visible when you look into the darkness, illuminate it and stand strong against it.

It will all be worth it in the end

[Howie]

I get that all the time
"Will you stop talking about that bloody world trade centre"!!!

[Graham]

[Pikey]

Thanx guys (with the exception of two blogs) I find this thread very helpful personally.

One thing I've noticed about the 911 Truth campaign is that its mainly males who are involved. Thats a pity because the few females who do participate, Belinda, Penny, Annie, Maureen make a huge contribution to countering the male/female energy imbalance and dont bring an ego into it.

We need more female energy in the UK campaign.

It would be interesting to receive some female input on this thread.

Its good to talk!

[flamesong]

[paul wright]

[Mick Meaney]

[Sixy]

Thanks Mick!

I've just read this thread and found the subject matter very interesting.

And yes, I'm female! And no, I haven't just pulled myself away from Ebay to post this!

I can understand the issues that arise in relationships with being switched on to 9/11.

As someone else kinda said, people have different views, like the JWs knocking on your door...they are devout in their beliefs and want to share them with you, you want them to b* off! But it's obviously a lot harder when your talking about someone you share your live and love with.

I think sometimes we forget what a big thing it is to challenge and not accept the official account of 9/11. It takes you out of your comfort zone and changes your whole world view.

Men and women are different on all types of levels, especially emotionally. You hear a lot, both men and women, saying 'they just don't understand me'....I believe that on some levels, we genetically don't. It's not a bad or good thing, just a difference.

When two people are in a relationship, if one picks up a new hobby, lifestyle change, change in world view, it can effect the relationship. For people on this forum, it's 9/11. It could be taking up a new sport which could cause arguments, converting to a religion, etc.

I'm sure I'm not saying anything new here, but the key is communication. Maybe not talking about everything, but explaining why we feel so passionate about it. Then it's about finding the right balance between the realtionship and the campaign. I'm pretty sure that most people are aware of this and are doing both things!

We also have to remember that really, what we talk about here on this forum, at events and meetings is mainly political. Look at the state of politics today. How many women are in politics? Not many compared to men. I'm not saying it's right, but it seems to be true.

I don't know how many women are involved in local meetings (but we also need to think about childcare issues which may prevent some couples/single parents from attending), but as far as this forum is concerned, just because someone doesn't post here often, doesn't mean that they aren't doing something.

I don't post here often, but I do check the forum daily. But I like to think that in my local area, I am being active in trying to provide information to my local community.

One of the last things I want to add is about ego. There is no other way to say it but fairly bluntly (sorry!) but there is a lot of ego involved in the campaign, both at events and on the forum. Although ego is needed and isn't always a bad thing, I do think it can put some people off! I hope people understand what I mean by that.

Finally, I am assuming that comments made about women on this thread using the net only for ebay, watching soaps, calling them 'bird' (grr! lol) etc etc are tongue in cheek...but let's not label women in that way!

There are women in the campaign, and a lot of strong, hard-working women. We do need the female energy in the campaign, we need to get the energy balance right. But we do need more women to get involved.

Hope all of this makes sense!

Sixy

[Emmanuel]

"All you do is watch 911 videos!!!"

If the person once close to you is now stifling your consciousness awakening this is very unfortunate. Trying to win them round may be more damaging.
Its like theres a dead body in the middle of the room and everyone is ignoring it. However. as long as there is a balance between truth searching and truth living I think relationships could work.
If you can live a lie in your own home/private life or like a shallow relationship with a pretty face do it. I think a lot of men are like this (haha) I think it might be a different case if I had children. Many women just want to stay behind the screen of ignorance is bliss to protect the youngsters. But in the long run I feel this is dangerous. If people care about the young generation they should stand up for their rights now! This means in their homes, families, neighbourhoods, and societies.