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Bongo
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject: This Forum's Been Took!!! Reply with quote

The moderators on this forum are dis-info promoters and have hijacked these boards.

Wake up people.

My parting shot from this "NPT-Laser Beam-nonsense"....

Well what can I say... But... "9/11 Was an Inside Job"...

You Neo-con Sci-Fi Kooks are losing... and I will be there to see your demise (You know who you are!) Twisted Evil

You Dis-Info agents can go kiss my ass with your Laser beams, cos you make me violently sick!!!! Evil or Very Mad

Bongo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres definitely been a moderation regime change and from my own personal experience it appears to be moderator Tony Gosling who is scrutinising every blog I make and on many occasions making changes which appear to me to be intent on "flaming" and creating division.

IMO moderation needed sorting particularly the damage being caused by the shills/trolls, OCT supporters who play the man not the ball.

It would be interesting to know who has been banned to date. How about the recognised shills/trolls and OCt supporters being given such a label on their profile so that when they post here new people coming here for the first time can understand were they are coming from!



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From: TonyGosling
To: Pikey
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: edited your headline
Hi Pikey,

Then you can complain to the other moderators here
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/groupcp.php?g=281

thanks
Tony




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As far as I know I didn't call anything "effective moderation". In fact I think the forum is moderated pretty ineffectively.

What might have been clearer was "Is my alteration a problem?" And I'd appreciate a straight answer.

If its not a problem you needent reply

Tony


Tony imo your action was a waste of time and effort. It achieves nothing for the 911 truth campaign. In fact it verges on the "flaming"

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Is my alteration a problem?


I find that question rather arrogant and full of personal ego. I think when you alter somebody elses work you have to have reason for doing so. I can see no reason for the change you have implemented other than to flame and to get a reaction! Perhaps it would be more polite and diplomatic to ask people if they would object to the edit before implementing it. Presumably you have been responsible for editing one of my previous messages, which for the record was changed to an incorrect date and which I corrected! I never got a pm afterwards then!

In that respect then it is a problem not just to the individual but to the objective of supposedly fostering a united campaign with a working together culture.

Thats my final word on the matter. I'd rather contribute something positive to the campaign like 911 activism, the in fighting just sickens me and its time with the aid of efficient and effective moderation it was given the boot!

Peace & truth


I notice that now all my sent pm messages in 2005, and 2006 have disappeared. So if you want to keep any of your old messages do some housekeeping and archive them safely otherwise they will be lost forever!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that given the community nature of the board, it would indeed be useful to know who has been banned and why.

In addition, I would also like to comment on the way the topic headings are laid out;

This is a 911 board and the additional recently added sections are ancillary to the main thrust of what this is all about. Why are the 911 topic headings not at the top of the listings? The entire thing has been diluted greatly and now 911 is just one a number of assorted headings.

You go to the topic listings and it is very difficult to justify that this is still 911 focused. I have no real problem with an extra section covering other stuff, but the topic headings have grown and unless 911 takes centre stage, then this really is just a Jeff Rense annexe.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have to agree. The headings have made it confusing and disjointed. After the front page, I wonder what newcomers would think of the forum sections.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So many different issues in the one thread

Bongo, you know not what you are talking about. This site has been taken from who by who exactly? Any repetition of this abuse will result in a ban but it won't be because of your views but your abuse.

Clearly it is your belief that NPT is disinfo, but the forum has no opinion on this one way or the other and the beliefs of individual moderators should not influence the moderation.

The only moderator openly supportive of NPT/TVF is AJ. TG and JW are openly hostile to this line of inquiry and the rest (me, Mick M, JHR and SuperAdmin) have never expressed an opinion to the best of my knowledge so it's a bit hard to see what you are talking about.

I have yet to find the time to read all of Judy Wood's evidence and therefore feel in no position to comment on her theories regarding Exotic Weapons, etc. I suspect many of those that criticise her have also failed to read her papers. Besides whether I agreed with Judy Woods or disagreed with her, it wouldn't influence how the site is moderated. None of us (should) moderate based on our own beliefs or the beliefs of the person we are moderating but based purely on the moderation policy.

Tony G has editted some users posts in the past. I believe him when he says this was done in what he saw as the best interests of the site and in an attempt to make the thread titles clearer. However this has caused understandable concern from some users and the moderators are agreed that posts should only be editted with the prior consent of the user concerned.

Who has been banned? I would need to check to be absolutely sure I have everyone here but from memory the following users have been
in this order

Ignoring countless porn / spammers that attempt to post here

Ally (for being Ally)
Jref and another critic for accusing me of being antisemitic without producing any evidence
TTWSU3, Patrick Brown and Ironsnot for repeated abuse of other posters
Johnny Pixels and Ignatz for repeatedly posting outside CC.



There may have been one or two others who I am confident would have fallen into the vast majority users definition of trolls but I don't recall. Basically as few as possible, but repeated failure to follow the forum rules does lead to a ban

If any users is really curious why these users were banned I recommend reviewing their posts and then PM me for a fuller explanation.

The new section headings and restructuring of the forum

2 points. There has been ample opportunity to post on threads discussing the reworking of the forum in order to influence it. The meetings in Blackpool and Bristol were clear and unaminous (sp) in calling for the site to be redesigned so that the forum and its content and links is not associated or seen to be associated with the campaign.

Obviously the front page still needs editting to make this clear that this site does NOT represent the campaign or its views but I don't have the ability to do this and so I am reliant on others to edit this.

Beyond that I don't really care how it is structured. I suggest however we give the present set up a go and revisit the structure in a month or so although I'm happy to hear views on this.

If users feel this forum reflects badly at times on the 9/11 truth movement and British campaign then you will find no argument from me and that is why I have tried to push through recent changes such as introducing a clear moderation policy, new sections that distance the forum from the campaign and expanding the pool of moderators.

What I do object to is know nothings accusing the sites moderators of being disinfo agents (presumably deliberately planting disinfo and working for the other side) when you don't know us.
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