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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Andy. . . you already posted the link. My bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no worries, good news can always be bumped.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ive had an idea for a while, to have something like EngineersFor911Truth. This would solely focus on the World Trade Centres, exposing the falsity in Popular Mechanics, FEMA, NIST and other defenders of the official theory.


Totally agree, the only problem with (of what I can get open of them) is that they are simply architectural plans... there is no steelwork drawings or structural calculations within this information. I am sorry to inform you that Architects plans may give you some minor clues, but to seriously review the possibilities of the collapse, we really need the full structural details.

Unless, of course, that is if someone can tell me how to open the files within the folder named
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weidlingerAssoc_WTCtowerCollapseFlexPOVfiles1780msTO1880ms

...once you extract them from their zips, I think they are .POV files, but cannot find a way to open them? If they happen to be the necessary structural details, I will eat my hat! ...and most likely nonsense myself!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can view them all in Adobe Illustrator...

I'm not sure what you have already seen but this is a screen grab from the file called 'wtc1' the Dxf's folder...(show damage GREEN = Severe)

It's just a cropped section of the full size image.

Click for bigger...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the way the floors disappear behind the affected spandrels. 4 or 5 acres of 6" thick concrete, sideways on, and the plane keeps going. Sheah, right!

And imageshack sux0r now. find another less spammy piccy host!

A question for you guys!

If one object crashes into another, do the objects "know" which is moving and which is standing still?

Does it many any difference?

Thats two questions, I know. But it shouldn't be too difficult for you.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyb wrote:
Here you go Zoobs Wink

http://ae911truth.org/

Up and running next month!


FANTASTIC!!! Now, just like I can point other pilots to PilotsFor911Truth, I can now point all the Engineering & Architectural Students and Staff at Universities to this site! Fantastic!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So does anyone have a link for a reliable torrent yet?

Is it possible for anyone here who has them to attach the file to a message?

What most interests me about this is it will (i hope) give confirmation of the way the sky lobbies and the selected reinforced floors throughout the building were put toagther.

As we all know, neither NIST nor FEMA offered any explanation of the building collapse. In FEMAs case all we got was a hypotheiss, with NIST we got a hypothesis and some analysis of collapse initiation- which referred to as evidence a physics engine they created, which they then refused to release. So in short- the official reports did not even attempt to explain global collapse- but they did both work with the assumtion of the "hat truss" system throughout which clearly wasn't the case.

Bazant has written so far 3 (self contradictory) papers attempting to explain global collapse- but even then assuming the hat truss thoughout. With these blue prints in the public domain then I don't see how this deception can continue!

Very exciting!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh hold on, I just saw Gazebofloss' post- so these aren't actually the blue prints of the buildings?

That's a little disappointing...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Direct download here http://www.laughingpond.com/wtc_blueprints.zip for anyone who missed it.

Working torrent can be found here http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/ and the guy who was seeding the original torrent has started seeding again apparently, so you can finish the download if you got some of it.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. There is a package which contains a lot of documents. I haven't been through them all yet but I can confirm that there is a folder containing 205 scans of the original blueprints along with various other, as yet unexplored, folders one of which contains the impact damage documents mentioned by Gazebofloss.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or if you can't be bothered to download the zip file, go here

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/plans/frames.html

Whether this is all of the drawings I don't know, but appears to be.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks Thermate, Scuba and Flamesong,
I'm really looking forward to seeing what people like Jones, Gordon Ross and Calum can make of these!

It's been a BIG year for NETUK!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. I'm loading up WTC1.dwg now but boy is it taking some time. I'm talking hours, at 100% CPU.

Anyhow, interesting to see the blueprints, though I can't make much of them, hoping a 3D representation will be more up my street.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

This is where it gets interesting. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The blueprints are not 100% comprehensive; however I`m sure there are some useful facts therein.

Also included are lots of the structural simulations done by the Silverstein/Wiederman report. Trouble is that you need a program called FlexLab to look at them.

Its the sort of program that is very specialist and probably extrememly expensive. Reading them would probably be a task on the same level as getting the flight data recorder stuff converted.

Its a big job going through this stuff but I`m sure new information will be forthcoming.

I very much doubt that NIST actually lied about the construction; however its quite probable they may have ommitted interesting snippets.

We shall see.

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