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 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: The Socialist Worker would love to hear from you! |
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I phoned up the editorial at the Socialist Workerspaper and asked when they were planning on doing a piece on the 9/11 truth movement. She, forget her name, might have been Kelly but dont quote me on that said that "we have no plans in the immediate future". I asked if whe believed the official account and she said she did. I asked her if she knew about wtc 7, the third building that fell She didnt. When I explained further, her question was "What exactly are you saying?" I said, "What Im saying, is that 9/11 was, without any doubt, an inside Job. There was a delayed reaction but I thought I perceived a ping if intuitive recognition of the facts I was presenting to her. Please, I already have e-mailed them but it would be great if as many as you could do the same. There's a letter you can write online on their website and there is also an e-mail contact. http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/
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| the Red star of Rothschild strikes again...another zionist front organisation to divide the people... |
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| mason-free party wrote: | | the Red star of Rothschild strikes again...another zionist front organisation to divide the people... |
What isnt?
Please e-mail them, just because it is as you say, a Zionist front doesnt meen the vast majority of it's members and the paper's readers are aware of this. Come on, let's just drop them a line and at least let them know we exist.
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Has anyone approached The Big Issue? They did a lovely long article last year for me on another campaign I am heavily involved with that is fighting the Government on another issue (not 911 relatated).
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| Dr Hemp wrote: | | Has anyone approached The Big Issue? They did a lovely long article last year for me on another campaign I am heavily involved with that is fighting the Government on another issue (not 911 relatated). |
That was going to be my second port of call. Im gonna call them today. I actually work with the homeless as an outreach worker. I will report back at the end ofthe day. Apparently the Irish Big Issue lent the movement some support, but having not seen it, I cant comment.
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I can't imagine the writers of the Big Issue are going to be huge fans of George Bu$h and his close allies in the British Labour Party! Like I said, they did a very positive piece on another non-related issue that I'm very much involved with.
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I think we will be in a much stronger position to do this kind of lobbying when the Campaign for 911 Truth (Britain and Ireland) shop window website is ready.
People are ignorant and prejudiced about 911. This causes them to look at this forum, select the craziest ideas on it and use those as an excuse to dismiss us as "conspiraloons". I suspect the strongest demotivating factor is their fear of being dubbed "conspiraloons" along with us. I understand that fear. Papers are fearful of upsetting their readership and their trustees. I understand where they're coming from. Given the frequent antagonism we get from SWP members when out leafleting, I suspect Socialist Worker would be very worried about the same reaction.
Last year the northern and Scottish version of the Big Issue ran three pages on 911 which Keith in Scotland had managed to persuade them to publish. This was later republished in the associated Irish Issues magazine and was on sale in Ireland last November at the time of the inaugural Irish meeting in Cork.
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| paradise estate wrote: | | mason-free party wrote: | | the Red star of Rothschild strikes again...another zionist front organisation to divide the people... |
What isnt?
Please e-mail them, just because it is as you say, a Zionist front doesnt meen the vast majority of it's members and the paper's readers are aware of this. Come on, let's just drop them a line and at least let them know we exist. |
The Socialist Workers Party (SWP) is generally regarded as an MI5 front which has itself spawned countless other fronts including the Anti-Nazi League (ANL), Globalise Resistance, the Stop the War Coalition, Respect and other children and grandchildren. If they are flypaper organisations (and my experience of years of encounters with the SWP strongly convinces me that they are), there is no doubt that the editors of the Socialist Worker are being handled - they aren't going to publish anything from their postbag which does not suit their agenda.
I have been hammering the SWP for years about 9/11 and have only been greeted, at best, with accusations of being a '* nutter' and at worst with being an anti-Semitist, despite myself being a member of the Anti-Nazi League in the 1970's.
SWP members are not encouraged to think for themselves and are emotionally bullied into selling the rag, 'The Socialist Worker' - that's why there are dozens of sellers at every tube station around political marches. So, not only do they brainwash their members, they appear to be a largely, if not wholly self-funding flypaper organisation which, let's face it, has no political future. Its sole purpose is to draw out, identify and control dissent.
I can't speak for the top brass but I know that certain mid-ranking officials live in leafy suburbs and enjoy very middle class lifestyles when out of 'uniform'. How revolutionary! |
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Flamesong,
Thanks for that useful perspective!
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| I think "The Big Issue" maybe a better alternative... |
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| scubadiver wrote: | | I think "The Big Issue" maybe a better alternative... |
didn't Keith get some stuff published by them? |
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| Flamesong wrote: | | paradise estate wrote: | | mason-free party wrote: | | the Red star of Rothschild strikes again...another zionist front organisation to divide the people... |
What isnt?
Please e-mail them, just because it is as you say, a Zionist front doesnt meen the vast majority of it's members and the paper's readers are aware of this. Come on, let's just drop them a line and at least let them know we exist. |
The Socialist Workers Party (SWP) is generally regarded as an MI5 front which has itself spawned countless other fronts including the Anti-Nazi League (ANL), Globalise Resistance, the Stop the War Coalition, Respect and other children and grandchildren. If they are flypaper organisations (and my experience of years of encounters with the SWP strongly convinces me that they are), there is no doubt that the editors of the Socialist Worker are being handled - they aren't going to publish anything from their postbag which does not suit their agenda.
I have been hammering the SWP for years about 9/11 and have only been greeted, at best, with accusations of being a '* nutter' and at worst with being an anti-Semitist, despite myself being a member of the Anti-Nazi League in the 1970's.
SWP members are not encouraged to think for themselves and are emotionally bullied into selling the rag, 'The Socialist Worker' - that's why there are dozens of sellers at every tube station around political marches. So, not only do they brainwash their members, they appear to be a largely, if not wholly self-funding flypaper organisation which, let's face it, has no political future. Its sole purpose is to draw out, identify and control dissent.
I can't speak for the top brass but I know that certain mid-ranking officials live in leafy suburbs and enjoy very middle class lifestyles when out of 'uniform'. How revolutionary! |
I went into Bookmarx last week and offered the bespectabled guy who works in there and offered him a dvd. He wasnt gonna accept it. Eventually he agreed. There were some other people in there and I was on my soapbox and I was described as being 'out to lunch' and accused indirectly of 'anti-semitism'. I will be returning there at the end of the week. Any suggestions for any printed matter I can print off the net. I dont think we have any options of 'alternatives'. Our main objective I feel is to make sure we flood these organisations e-mails. Im gonna work on these people, having being involved with them in the past. Please do fire them e-mails off. Time is running out.
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Ive left a message with The Big Issue on their voicemail. I left my home number and asked them to give me a ring back. What is the best approach? Would it be better to give them a contact for one of the main organisers?
I dont mind talking to anybody about the movement as long as we are all in agreement as to how the initial approach to the editors of such 'tomes' should be conducted. Your views please!
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