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Long Tooth
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| pepik wrote: | | Quote: | to help you get up to speed, try typing the words, (Al Qaeda, mujahideen database) you can then take your choice of the tens of thousands of pages morphing the mujahideen databasers into Al Qaeda.
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I think this really captures the level of thought that goes into conspiracy theories. If random web pages say something is true, then it is true.
The Guardian link is to editorial. Editorial is not reporting. And infowars... sorry, was I supposed to take that seriously?
What really funny is that this is "the best of the best", suitable for the the tougher audience at critics corner, yet it is utter garbage. Wander beyond the critics corner and you'll be amazed how much dumber it gets. |
What no swift wave of the hand to dismiss robin cooks excellent article?
I ask you, from whence would evidence be acceptable for you.
Not one person wheeled on to TV refuted Cooks statement.
I dont have to wander any farther than CC, you and bushwacker are as dumb as its ever got for me so far, congratulations.
I wonder if the silence from you will be as deafening as bushwackers, as to the question, from who or what organisations does it have to come from for you to accept? |
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karlos
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The only thing to link these attacks to anyone is the video tape of Osama Bin Laden that was conveniently found in a cave in Afghanistan that had him talking about the physical structure of the World Trade Center and the plane strike. The audio quality of this tape is so poor that any objective Arab-speaking analyst who was asked to give their opinion was unable to do so! as they claimed that just about all the words on it were inaudible.
But even if this tape is genuine what would this really prove? As I have already mentioned it is common knowledge that Osama Bin Laden is G.W. Bush’s BOSOM BUDDY. So in the grand scheme of things what does this really matter?
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The fact that you can't distinguish editorial from reporting explains why you are so easily conned by conspiracy theories.
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karlos
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Whether the tape is real or fake is irelevant
Bin Laden and Bush are bosom buddies and whatever bush says bin laden complies and vice versa.
So in many ways it would be pretty easy for them to use the real Bin Laden who is probably living in Texas or Saudi Arabia with 1000 concubines at his mercy.
Unless he is dead due to his kidney problems.
Which would be the only reason they would have for 'faking' it.
But like i said just like the NPT the video is a distraction, it does not matter if it is an actor or Usama himself.
The whole 911 conspiracy is the crime of the century.
I do think the video is a fake, remember it was made in this century not during victorian times, so why the poor quality? it is deliberately made in such a nonsense ambiguous way to keep the anoraks arguing.
The same way that the 'moon landings' were filmed.
They could have easily been filmed in technicolour and panavision.
Deliberately making a por quality film is a policy.
Look at the fake cctv image of the Luton town station on 7/7 as another example.
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Bushwacker
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Long Tooth wrote: | | pepik wrote: | | Quote: | to help you get up to speed, try typing the words, (Al Qaeda, mujahideen database) you can then take your choice of the tens of thousands of pages morphing the mujahideen databasers into Al Qaeda.
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I think this really captures the level of thought that goes into conspiracy theories. If random web pages say something is true, then it is true.
The Guardian link is to editorial. Editorial is not reporting. And infowars... sorry, was I supposed to take that seriously?
What really funny is that this is "the best of the best", suitable for the the tougher audience at critics corner, yet it is utter garbage. Wander beyond the critics corner and you'll be amazed how much dumber it gets. |
What no swift wave of the hand to dismiss robin cooks excellent article?
I ask you, from whence would evidence be acceptable for you.
Not one person wheeled on to TV refuted Cooks statement.
I dont have to wander any farther than CC, you and bushwacker are as dumb as its ever got for me so far, congratulations.
I wonder if the silence from you will be as deafening as bushwackers, as to the question, from who or what organisations does it have to come from for you to accept? |
You really have no idea what might constitute evidence, have you? Robin Cook saying something is so is no more evidence than Tony Blair saying the opposite. You simply pick up on what appeals to you at the time, it seems, a typical conspiracist.
Try some solid reporting from a reasonably proven source, or is that too difficult?
Do you wonder why the Guardian is not exposing the truth about Al Qaeda as revealed in Robin Cook's article? Could it be because they know it is a load of rubbish?
As you like the Guardian/Observer, here is a recent article on the current situation of bin Laden and Al Qaeda - LINK
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Bushwacker
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| stelios69 wrote: | Whether the tape is real or fake is irelevant
Bin Laden and Bush are bosom buddies and whatever bush says bin laden complies and vice versa.
So in many ways it would be pretty easy for them to use the real Bin Laden who is probably living in Texas or Saudi Arabia with 1000 concubines at his mercy.
Unless he is dead due to his kidney problems.
Which would be the only reason they would have for 'faking' it.
But like i said just like the NPT the video is a distraction, it does not matter if it is an actor or Usama himself.
The whole 911 conspiracy is the crime of the century.
I do think the video is a fake, remember it was made in this century not during victorian times, so why the poor quality? it is deliberately made in such a nonsense ambiguous way to keep the anoraks arguing.
The same way that the 'moon landings' were filmed.
They could have easily been filmed in technicolour and panavision.
Deliberately making a por quality film is a policy.
Look at the fake cctv image of the Luton town station on 7/7 as another example. |
You saying these things are so is meant to be the end of the discussion, is it?
I think I'll have a go as well:
Lord Lucan murdered Princess Diana and escaped on Shergar. Anything else is just a cover story he paid Max Clifford to put out. |
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Long Tooth
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | stelios69 wrote: | Whether the tape is real or fake is irelevant
Bin Laden and Bush are bosom buddies and whatever bush says bin laden complies and vice versa.
So in many ways it would be pretty easy for them to use the real Bin Laden who is probably living in Texas or Saudi Arabia with 1000 concubines at his mercy.
Unless he is dead due to his kidney problems.
Which would be the only reason they would have for 'faking' it.
But like i said just like the NPT the video is a distraction, it does not matter if it is an actor or Usama himself.
The whole 911 conspiracy is the crime of the century.
I do think the video is a fake, remember it was made in this century not during victorian times, so why the poor quality? it is deliberately made in such a nonsense ambiguous way to keep the anoraks arguing.
The same way that the 'moon landings' were filmed.
They could have easily been filmed in technicolour and panavision.
Deliberately making a por quality film is a policy.
Look at the fake cctv image of the Luton town station on 7/7 as another example. |
You saying these things are so is meant to be the end of the discussion, is it?
I think I'll have a go as well:
Lord Lucan murdered Princess Diana and escaped on Shergar. Anything else is just a cover story he paid Max Clifford to put out. |
Lord Lucan murdered Princess Diana and escaped on Shergar. Anything else is just a cover story he paid Max Clifford to put out. you forgot that 'Al Qaeda'  did 9/11 and 9 of the hijackers have resurrected into life. 
One is left to ponder what excatly is your agenda here? or can anyone be so naturally dimwitted. |
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Bushwacker
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| So dimwitted as to re-cycle once more the old canard about some of the hijackers being alive? No, I don't think even the dullest truthshirkers are still trying that one. |
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karlos
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| Quote: | A Washington Post article a few days after September 11 says that Osama bin Laden is on dialysis. He's been on dialysis for 18 months. Now you're telling me the mastermind of all evil is running from cave to cave hooked up to a kidney machine? This is like a Mike Myers film almost with Dr. Evil hooked up to wires going from cave to cave. The man's been near death. Look at the last video of him. His skin is green, his face is gaunt. He's not in Afghanistan and he never was, in my humble opinion. I don't know what that Flintstones set was that was behind him in those videotapes with the big boulders, but I don't buy it.
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wepmob2000
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The USA needs Bin Laden, that much is undeniable, he was possibly killed in Tora Bora in 2002, if that was the case we're unlikely to ever find out.
If he's still alive he's probably in a nice penthouse in Islamabad, financed entirely by the U.S taxpayers, with the best healthcare for his kidney problem that Uncle Sam can provide! |
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Long Tooth
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| wepmob2000 wrote: | The USA needs Bin Laden, that much is undeniable, he was possibly killed in Tora Bora in 2002, if that was the case we're unlikely to ever find out.
If he's still alive he's probably in a nice penthouse in Islamabad, financed entirely by the U.S taxpayers, with the best healthcare for his kidney problem that Uncle Sam can provide! |
One only has to remember the yanks history of rounding up nazi war criminals and nazi scientists after WW2, flown to Florida, given wealth and luxury in return for working for them. Okay one or two prosecutions to smoke screen a sleeper population, but all good for the freedom and democracy brigades holier than thou doctrines and mantras.
The USA government is the 4th Reich, its a good job those nazi hunters were not allowed to do their hunting in Florida unhindered, and now the fruits of their work is being unleashed in the present day, made in the US of A, god bless america, onward Christian sooooldieeeeeers marching off to war....... with their cross of Jesu............marching.......... |
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Bushwacker
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| It is interesting that nobody mentions that the Russians did exactly the same with the German scientists they could find, and of course the East German Stasi was largely staffed by former Gestapo and SD personnel. It seems it was just the UK that missed out on a useful recruitment opportunity! |
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wepmob2000
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | It is interesting that nobody mentions that the Russians did exactly the same with the German scientists they could find, and of course the East German Stasi was largely staffed by former Gestapo and SD personnel. It seems it was just the UK that missed out on a useful recruitment opportunity! |
Thats true, the space race was supposed to be more about who had the best German scientists. Also Egypt and Argentina had quite a few German engineers in their employment. |
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Bushwacker
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| wepmob2000 wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | | It is interesting that nobody mentions that the Russians did exactly the same with the German scientists they could find, and of course the East German Stasi was largely staffed by former Gestapo and SD personnel. It seems it was just the UK that missed out on a useful recruitment opportunity! |
Thats true, the space race was supposed to be more about who had the best German scientists. Also Egypt and Argentina had quite a few German engineers in their employment. |
A film was made about Wernher von Braun entitled "I aim for the stars" Mort Sahl suggested it should be subtitled "But sometimes I hit London" |
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wepmob2000
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | wepmob2000 wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | | It is interesting that nobody mentions that the Russians did exactly the same with the German scientists they could find, and of course the East German Stasi was largely staffed by former Gestapo and SD personnel. It seems it was just the UK that missed out on a useful recruitment opportunity! |
Thats true, the space race was supposed to be more about who had the best German scientists. Also Egypt and Argentina had quite a few German engineers in their employment. |
A film was made about Wernher von Braun entitled "I aim for the stars" Mort Sahl suggested it should be subtitled "But sometimes I hit London" |
Can I suggest, if you haven't already, you take a look at the 'Chemtrails' thread, arguing against that one makes me feel like a lone voice of reason in a sea of madness......... |
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