9/11 truthers should distance themselves from David Icke

[Justin]

Chris2010 wrote

[John White]

Well heres an interesting thing, because, according to principals like the "law of attraction" a focus on the need to "distance" from David Icke just draws more attention onto David Icke, so anyone who genuinely feels the 9/11 Truth Campaign should not associate itself with a guy like Icke would be best advised to shut up and not think about him. I love irony

Its not how the campaign works anyway, so best get over it and leave Icke to be Icke, human "snowplough" that he is

[Mick Meaney]

One great thing David Icke has pointed out, to which I'm sure we can all agree, especially with the current bogus 'war on terror', is the military are the number one source of 'mind control/conditioning/whatever you call it', meaning those in the military and those with military backgrounds or training are merely slaves.

The mentality of these people can be seen long after service, not only when they kill complete strangers because 'someone told them to'.

I'd say the most important factor of present times is to stop the murders carried out during the illegal wars, and to completely do away with this destructive and suppressive way of thinking the military has imposed, and is still being carried forward outside of the military.

I doubt you will find a louder voice with this sentiment than David Icke.

[flamesong]

[peloloco]

Can you prove David Icke wrong about them damn lizards? Anyway, how would you distance the whole 911 truth movement from him and how far?

I read The Biggest Secret a few years ago but I dont go round banging on about Lizards but this world becomes more mysterious every day not much would suprise me. With him on his island I am a safe enough distance from him I reckon.

Anyway good luck in your quest

[Chris2010]

How can you say so many people lied? Are you seriously saying the government hushed up 100's of people in New York, one of the busiest cities in the world?
'David was right about Biometric I.D's'?! Anyone could guess that. Don't tell me he spoke to a lizard. Let me ask you this David Icke supporters do you believe in a reptillian race?
Its pretty obvious to anyone that liberty is threatened when you allow scum to run your country (as we always have done) and that they would bring in biometric I.D cards, especially as technology was only going to get better.
Please use your reason. There is a mountain of scientific evidence showing 9/11 was an inside job. There is not one credible scientist who backs the no planes hitting the Twin Towers theory or the existance of a reptillian ruling race.
People who support these views are just giving a great big present to the murders in the government. Please think and use your reason.

[karlos]

there is no such thing as lizards, please dont be fooled.
Icke is using the term lizards to avoid saying what he really means and avoid getting taken out. Lizards makes him look like a nutter hence he is safe to leave roaming freely.

If bush/blair/prince charles/the pope or anyone else was a lizard a simple dna test would prove it.
Ive met prince charles at a polo match. He is NOT a lizard. In fact apart from the Diana Murder business Charles is very decent chap.

for goodness sake lizard is cold blooded non mammal there is no way you could even mate or make a hybrid.
Lizard is Icke being allegorical.

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[Justin]

[rodin]

[jcr911truth]

I think most of us agree that David Icke has some very interesting things to say, and has often predicted the world trends we are now witnessing. If 80% of what he says makes sense, then we shouldn't be so quick to laugh at the other 20% of what he says, even if it does take us well outside the boundaries of our perception. I personally don't think the 20% part is true, but I haven't researched it and so I keep an open mind. It's certainly no more unbelievable than what half the population believes about religion.

David Icke is an extremely courageous man, to have been so bold to come out and describe the world as he sees it, knowing the ridicule it would bring upon him. People like Copernicus were ridiculed in their own time as their their theories changed people's perception of the Universe, only for history to show them to have been right. Just perhaps, David Icke is another Copernicus?

[xmasdale]

[karlos]

iT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO DO A DNA TEST ON ANYONE SUSPECTED OF BEING A LIZARD
next time somebody talks about lizards ask them to prove it

[sidlittle]

[karlos]

as far as i am aware Icke was the first person maybe not specifically in a book but certainly publically in the UK who alerted the public to a variety of truths including 911. At the time i thought he was a complete looper. Now i realise he was right.
Lets not argue who was first rather unite that he is one of us.

[flamesong]

[Pikey]

There must be some common ground here, something that brings us together and unites us in oneness.

Surely the 911 Truth campaign is that common ground we are demanding a thorough independent professional investigation into revealing the truth
of what really happened. 911 truth exposure is the key to all the unravelling.

David Icke is one of us. a fellow supporter and an activist. He has made a huge contribution with his own personal 911 research and in the publication of his 911 book, "Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center". So how can we justify distancing ourselves from him?

David Icke has not been proven wrong yet! Just becuase he is a maverick and brings to the force controversial subjects doesnt mean he should be excluded, after all he is a bonafide truthseeker.

Would you have believed the world we live was round when the ptb were telling us it was flat?

As for the reptilians I do find it difficult to accept in my 3 dimension reality however remember that Panorama interview with Lady Diana when she referred to them, the royals, as "the lizards", and stated that one day she would reveal all and shock the world! [

Peace & truth

[Long Tooth]

[flamesong]

[Long Tooth]

[sidlittle]

[sidlittle]

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[wickywoowoo]

Just a question to try and put this into some sort of context:

How many people on this forum first discovered the "main" conspiracy of the Illuminati and all 9/11, 7/7, Kennedy spin offs it has produced through David Icke?

I'd say a fair few, especially those based in the UK, first discovered this area of research through David Icke.

David Icke is the root of today's conspiracy research. I'll fully admit that he borrowed a lot of Jordan Maxwell's research, I am sure he will and has admitted that too, but Icke is the main with the slightly unexplainable charisma to make people listen.

Also, the fact he gets bashed and dismissed for some of his beliefs while Alex Jones (who I do respect greatly) is almost universally loved while flip flopping his beliefs depending on what celebrity guest he has on his show that day bugs me.

Hell, even the fact Jones still has Icke on his radio show while publicly calling him a smart, money making fraud on a TV show makes me think Jones is slightly off the ball.

Icke believes reality is not real and that other dimensional forms have a control on it. Sounds odd but when you think about it in basic terms, especially the whole "Radio 1 doesn't disappear because you listen to Radio 2" thing, it's quite simple and a bit odd to disbelieve it.

It it is called "personal opinion", but it seems even us "truth seekers" are losing the ability to afford others of that right these days.

[Martin J]

Undoubtedly David has helped to open the eyes of many people.
I began to research secret societies/NWO in the mid 90s having been tuned in by things like Illuminatus Trilogy,
and also rappers like Afrikaa Bambaataa and the Wu-Tang Clan.
I bought Robot`s Rebellion which was very refreshing to read. I have a lot of respect for the man.

Over the years, there`s a few things about David that concern me; he draws conclusions about certain things based on
limited evidence, and i`m not sure of his knowledge of metaphysics, particularly areas like Theosophy.
I find it irritating that he doesn`t seem to credit other people`s research - especially Jordan Maxwell, whose work on secret
societies and symbolism, he has obviously drawn from.

A few people i know feel that he is negatively influenced by lower dimensional entities, but none of us are perfect i guess.
I`m sure he will continue to play an important part in this rich tapestry of a truth movement.

[malcks]

"Charles a decent chap!!" get to ....

[zoomer]

Yes David Icke does say some insightful things, but this reptilain malarky.......? Please!!!! and I am not a closed-minded person I hope, but I feel he's fallen hook line and sinker for Zacharia Sitchin's theories which have been proven false and absurd

And the real danger of this DISinformation is, that it creates this awe about 'the elite'. When there comes ideas they are the 'fallen ones', and lately its 'hybrid reptoids', and the Queen Mother shapeshifts...etc etc etc, it also becomes a huge joke. And its' true , many people may be put off 9/11 Truth because of such outlandish stuff

Does this mean I go all safe, and won't look at the occultist clues? NO. but if you gonna look, you have to be flexible, and dig that you can be taken for a fool uinless you are savvy about what you are doing......................Am I. Don't know, but from my research it makes more sense than Icke

Let me give an overview:

YEARS BEFORE 9/11 i WAS INTO RESEARCHING ABOUT MYTHOLOGIES, AND THIS INCLUDES A VERY SIGNIFICANT part of mythology and religion and philosophy, the whole prehistor and history of psychedelic vegetation and substances. This VITAL to understand!!!

In The Sacred Mucshoom and the Cross by Philologist Professor John Allegro, he translates the 'fallen angels' to mean the sacred mushrooms.

Now listen close.............the anceints didn't know about mushroom spores and assumed that they miraculoously came from ABOVE---hint hint 'fallen';

They were also known as 'angels----as in 'messengers', because the experience had with psychedelics can involve the feeling of being in contact with higher intelligence

So, this is my theory------The fallen angels/rebels' are the male-supremacist brotherhoods who USED this psychedelic in an occultist way which very much included sorcery. THAt their premise was of a 'God' from which they 'stole' light/knowledge. get me?

That in the much miore snceint Goddess religious understanding, even though even ther spores weren't known, because the Goddess's body WAS Earth and was universe, there wasn't the concept of the shrooms cming 'down' from a transcendtal 'spiritual' realm. Rather there was no sense of division between nature/Earth and the Universe/stars. THIS division began when A male mindset equated their analysis of their own thought process/'reason' with the 'ordered' star systems, ie., 'philo-sophia' 'love of wisdom'---not orf BODILY wisdom, but more and more of the 'wisdom' of the thinking process. And this becomes a very viscious trap, because it cut off the thiker from his body and Nature. And with THAt attitude he would ingest his psychedelics, and use them to force control OVER himself and Nature for profit.

From this self-aggrandizement they believe and/or concoct a myth that they are fallen gods whose role it is is to control animals, other people, and Nature. And NOW this same ilk--coming down from the generations---this warriro coccultist mindset wants full spectrum control, even over space.

What do you think of these ideas in comparison with David Icke?

Don't just criticize....give substantial reasons if you disagree

[truthseeker john]

I'm still wondering what David Icke (and other new-age people) mean by frequencies and vibrations. Like frequencies/vibrations of what exactly?
All matter/energy is vibrating but the context in which people like David Icke use those terms, is imaginative and misinformed nonsense. However, he also says many things which are very true.

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