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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: The 9/11 Hijackers Reply with quote

It has been said on Loose Change and other places, that some of the "9/11 Hijackers" that were supposed to have been killed on the flights that day are still alive.

Now one sure way to blow this whole thing wide open is to find some of these people who were said to be killed on those planes and get them to appear on TV and show the world that they look pretty healthy for a person who was ment to be blown to bits when the planes slammed into those towers.

Then we will see who the REAL liers are and they would be exposed, it would be funney to see how the US Goverment would try to wriggle out of that one.

But this would have to be done in total secret, this is to prevent those that did carry out 9/11 from getting to those people that are still alive and either threatening them or killing them.

Once they have made the broadcast they might well need protection as well.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are several different possible answers to this:

1) The hijackers are still alive.

2) The hijackers had stolen the identities of others and may or may not still be alive.

3) The hijackers never existed and based on stolen identities.

4) The FBI got the identities of the hijackers wrong.

4) Anything else anyone can think of?

The FBIs reticense to bring any answer to these questions certainly casts suspicion.

If they had stolen identities, why is there no effort to work out who the men actually were? If they are still alive and the FBI got their identities wrong, why have the lists not been revised, why has there been no effort to find the true perps? And on and on, but the FBIs complete disinterest in setting the story straight is certainly telling.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere that one alleged hijacker who is still alive claimed he said his passport was stolen when he was in the US.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Stefan,

Many thanks for your reply.

I visited the FBI's website and to read what was written across the top of their badge "DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE" really made me feel sick.

Their duty is to serve and protect the american people and defend them from threats.

If they are in anyway involved in 9/11, or withholding critical evidence that shows who really did this then they are violating that duty that should be to the american people first and foremost and NOT to the president or anyone else.

I belive that they are withholding both the tapes that show what really hit the pentagon and the black box flight recorders of the planes that hit the twin towers, they are probably keeping them in their vaults hidden behind lots of security.

As i said in another post, they cannot be trusted because of this, not one bit.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "hijackers'" stories seem to be pretty complicated. For example, the film Who Killed John O'Neill (and other sources) suggest Atta was indeed a pilot or training to be one - but he was involved in drug smuggling operation - which involved flying planes.

http://www.madcowprod.com/mc332004.html

This isn't an area I have researched in great detail, though.

As for blowing the whistle on 9/11 - there are many whistles blowing now and many have already blown. For us, it's a deafening cacophony - but for others, deafness to certain frequencies of whistle sounds seems to be "the order of the day".

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louise,
Indeed some are supposed to be alive. One has been quoted as saying that his passport was stolen in, I believe, Saudi Arabia and that he has never been to the United States. Others, I believe, were used by the CIA to create, what I believe is known as a "legend" a false persona or identity by the agency to fit that of a "hijacker" ie, proof of enrolment at flight schools, one requesting that he learnt only how to fly straight and level, not take-offs and landings, presumably after he had (falsely) had hijacked it. So, such information appears in the print media, and so the legend is born. All we had in fact, were young men who had had their IDs stolen, or had agreed to play a part in a very well planned conjuring trick. In reality, there were no hijackers at all, just remotely controlled planes or drones. Why don't the young men come forward and be identified? Their health and well-being would rapidly deteriorate after so doing, in my opinion, in very violent reprisals.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is people like these that are in danger of these reprisals that we must do everything we can to protect them.

Also a lot of people have been intimidated into silence in the USA, probably they have been threatend with their lives or told that if they talk their familys including their children will start to dissapear, this is the level of evil we are dealing with here i think.

Do you think that the commercial airliners were converted into drones?, or did they have another aircraft standing by to take the place of the real aircraft?.

If so what did they do with the origanal aircraft and passengers?.

Could they have possibly cut up the origanal aircraft in a hanger or something?.

And what did they do with the people that were on board those aircraft, Kill them?.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louise,
My guess is that the passengers ended their lives in the north Atlantic.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sure that a few of the alleged hi-jackers actually contacted their respective embassies to inform people that they were very much alive and if this is true then it should not be to hard to track them down. If I had the resources I would try to track these people down and obtain verification because without that we will never get anywhere.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly there could be the chance of tracking either them or members of their families via the people that first announed the stories or revealed they were still alive.

For example:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040404000217/www.worldmessenger.20m.com/a live.html

and

http://web.archive.org/web/20021204230512/www.mujahideen.fsnet.co.uk/w tc/wtc-hijackers.htm

The majority of the links are outdated if going to them direct but thanks to archive.org you can still see them via that page.

There's links to the initial reports by the BBC, CBS, The Telegraph, CNN, etc.

It might be a good starting point, who knows.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good looking young adventurer with a decent pile of cash could make a rather compelling travel documentary, searching for these people, mixed with 9/11 trivia and exploration of interesting places in the middle east.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wokeman said

In reality, there were no hijackers at all, just remotely controlled planes or drones.




What evidence do you have for this?

How many remote controlled planes are you saying were used?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two, although that's open to debate. I believe the Pentagon attack was by a cruise missile.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of the alleged highjackers at least 7 maybe 9 are still alive and well.

But as there is no cctv at any of the airports.
As none of the highjackers bought a ticket.

It is very likely that the IDs were stolen. The ones that died may have died previously in US custody or in Saudi beheadings.

The most damning lack of evidence is this fact that there is no proof that the highjackers got onto any of the planes, tickets, cctv, passing through metal detectors, boarding passes, credit card reciepts for ticket purchases. These are normal things.

The official 911 story is blown.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if i'm wrong Stelios69.

But the supposed hijackers were not even on the passenger lists for those flights.

Am i correct?.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this stage I would be more interested in finding out from the Check-in and boarding staff which of those whose photographs we saw in the media actually checked in and boarded the flights.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lousie, the hijackers were on the passenger manifests, their names were obscured from the lists released by the airliners to spare the feelings of the victims families
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin barrett is off to Morocco to interview one of the alleged hijackers next month.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: Obscured names Reply with quote

kc wrote:
Lousie, the hijackers were on the passenger manifests, their names were obscured from the lists released by the airliners to spare the feelings of the victims families


The conventional wisdom in the Truth Movement is that there is no evidence that the hijackers were on the planes apart from magical passports found in the wreckage (and Korans and suicide instructions found in cars parked in the airports).

According to one website:
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/passengers.html
Passenger Lists
Published Passenger Lists Are Missing Hijackers
According to the official story, teams of four and five Islamic hijackers took over Flights 11, 175, 77, and 93. Yet the passenger lists published by CNN and elsewhere are free of any Arab names, much less any matching the alleged hijackers. 1 2 3 4 It has been claimed that the names of the hijackers were on the airlines' flight manifests. However, there is no public evidence of this. Researchers who have attempted to obtain this information from the airlines have been rebuffed. 5

Please point us to evidence that thier names were obscured.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/12/national/main310963.shtml

btw, if it WAS a cover up, dont you think they'd remember to include the names of the hijackers? prettye elementary mistake to make isnt it?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Manifest cover up Reply with quote

kc wrote:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/12/national/main310963.shtml

btw, if it WAS a cover up, dont you think they'd remember to include the names of the hijackers? prettye elementary mistake to make isnt it?


Presumably, they didn't splash the hijackers' names and photographs all over the world, not caring about the 911 relatives, and then say they can't demonstrate they were hijackers and publish their names on the manifests because it would upset the same relatives?!!
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