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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Can anybody explain the self healing building? Reply with quote

See exhibit A

Please back up any explanation with comparable evidence

http://911logic.blogspot.com/2007/04/earth-is-not-flat.html
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have already explained it.

The building is not "self healing", the tone of the parts of the plane in shadow, the ridged building face, the damage to the building, are all being represented after compression as a flat grey tone, making it very difficult to discern between the three elements.

Can you explain to me the mystery of the missing steel beams, aluminium cladding and glass?

We all know that the REAL world trade centre had a "ridged" appearance of aluminium clad steel columns with glass in between them.

WHY have they disapeared? Itsn't it clear?

The WTC was a HOLOGRAM! It's TRICKERY!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So show me a real life comparison
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefan wrote:
I have already explained it.

The building is not "self healing", the tone of the parts of the plane in damage, the ridged building face, the damage to the building, are all being represented after compression as a flat grey tone, making it very difficult to discern between the three elements.

Can you explain to me the mystery of the missing steel beams, aluminium cladding and glass?

We all know that the REAL world trade centre had a "ridged" appearance of aluminium clad steel columns with glass in between them.

WHY have they disapeared? Itsn't it clear?

The WTC was a HOLOGRAM! It's TRICKERY!

*ahem*


This Stefan guy lies as easy as breathing.

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look at NIST's and other photos in a decent resolution to see what damage was actually caused.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no comparison for your special inner world

Getting a bit uncomfortably rational round here is it?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John White wrote:
There's no comparison for your special inner world

Getting a bit uncomfortably rational round here is it?


The rationality certainly is not coming from your side, John.

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look at NIST's and other photos in a decent resolution to see what damage was actually caused.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So show me a real life comparison


WG, try doing some research. The number of things that need to be looked at is one of the multi-faceted things about the mysteries of 911.
One thing I can guarantee is that demanding to be spoonfed an education puts you in a passive position where you can be shovelled any old shoite.

You don't believe Stefan's patient technical explanation?
Fine, you're not obliged to accept it.
Go find out for yourself.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you show someone a real life comparison of the effects of compression?

The plane, the building, the smoke are all reduced to mottled and fairly flat colours with a lot of the detail and definitition gone.

I have looked at all the no planes shots. Parts of a plane only appear to disappear when crossing over a part of the background with the same colour.

On most shots we are just seeing how difficult it is to see the wing and tail which are in shadow and so reprented in flat grey against the side of the building which is represented in a flat and very similar tone grey. On another shot I noticed a bit of the right wing, whitch was in bright sunlight and came acorss on the compressed video as a flat white seem to disappear against a cloud, which on the video was also represented as a flat white.

But look closeley and at most points you can still see all parts as the colours are not identical, similarly you see a darker grey where the plane has been as it crashes into the building - the would be the hole the plane left, again represented through compression as a flat colour.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shall we do a list?

There is no self healing building
There is no disappearing building
There is no delayed fireball
There is no TV Trickery meaning a Fake of every image
There is no hologram
There is no missile pod
There is no beam weapon

But there are a lot of casualties who are being used and abused by a callous cliqhe whos motives probably vary from personal aggrandisment to deliberate disinformation, such as webfairy, holmgreen, fetzer, wood...

Thats what all my time in 9/11 truth leads me to conclude so far....

I know you guys, I know how your minds are working, I know that every single day there will be more re spamming of the same discredited garbage, day in day out, becuase you NEED to, becuase it helps you cope, with the death and the pain and the suffering of the world. At least you care! that makes you better than most of the rest in my book. So thats OK, thats fine, your more then welcome to do so. After all, you have to post it somewhere, right?

Its simply that we are not in the buisness of confusing psychological salves and fripperies as truth, OK?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is no self healing building
There is no disappearing building
There is no delayed fireball
There is no TV Trickery meaning a Fake of every image
There is no hologram
There is no missile pod
There is no beam weapon



Is this your crack at clinical hypnosis, John?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thought criminal wrote:
John White wrote:


There is no self healing building
There is no disappearing building
There is no delayed fireball
There is no TV Trickery meaning a Fake of every image
There is no hologram
There is no missile pod
There is no beam weapon



Is this your crack at clinical hypnosis, John?


Nope, its the Truth the evidence points to

But as I also said:

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I know you guys, I know how your minds are working, I know that every single day there will be more re spamming of the same discredited garbage, day in day out, becuase you NEED to, becuase it helps you cope, with the death and the pain and the suffering of the world. At least you care! that makes you better than most of the rest in my book. So thats OK, thats fine, your more then welcome to do so. After all, you have to post it somewhere, right?


So please feel free to continue and post a reply

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And dont forget that:

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there are a lot of casualties who are being used and abused by a callous cliqhe whos motives probably vary from personal aggrandisment to deliberate disinformation, such as webfairy, holmgreen, fetzer, wood...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember people, when dealing with flat colours, the background we view things against can make all the difference to what we appear to see...


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefan wrote:
Remember people, when dealing with flat colours, the background we view things against can make all the difference to what we appear to see...



Ah, more hypnotic gameplay.....

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that's right... I'm trying to hypotise you...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn missed a "t"... Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean 'n'?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant on the "piece":

though criminal/thought criminal

Standard spelling mistakes I don't care about... ones I spent three minutes on are a little more irritating...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah!

You could always upload an amended image - all instances of it will be replaced.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changed it now Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have already explained it.


What we can all go home now?

You and you alone are the keeper of all knowledge on Crash Mechanics now, is it?

Such imputence and arrogance.

But of course he is being paid to say these things.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banish,
Got any proof to back up those acusations?

I am not discussing "crash mechanics" I am discussing the supposed "self healing building" which is the topic of the thread. I am offering MY explanation to it; just what I think and some others seem to agree.

I see it as a simple effect of video compression.

What amuses me about "shill callers" is they all hold minority positions, which suggests they think EVERYONE in the world except for their 0.00001% clique are paid to disagree with them.

The ultimate paranoid ego fantasy.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there any records of phone calls being made by people in the building?
I mean i use to work at the World Trade Centre in London and i was always looking out the window at the Tower of London and tower bridge. So it would make sense that people in th building must hae seen the plane hit. They would then have phoned 999.

firemen who made it up to the floors would see wreckage such as the engines which would have been shattered after smashing against the structural steel beams and collumns.

Wreckage from the plane must have fallen on the floor at street level becase not all the plane could have been absorbed into the building.

I am not a NPT advocate, but the news videos do appear to raise questions

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefan wrote:
Changed it now Smile

Ah!

I actually meant upload it with the same name - then all previously referenced instances would change automatically.

As you can see, thought criminal's quote still contains the old image.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are there any records of phone calls being made by people in the building?
I mean i use to work at the World Trade Centre in London and i was always looking out the window at the Tower of London and tower bridge. So it would make sense that people in th building must hae seen the plane hit. They would then have phoned 999.

firemen who made it up to the floors would see wreckage such as the engines which would have been shattered after smashing against the structural steel beams and collumns.

Wreckage from the plane must have fallen on the floor at street level becase not all the plane could have been absorbed into the building.

I am not a NPT advocate, but the news videos do appear to raise questions


Not that I'm offering to go dig them out for you, but there are stories of people inside theTowers avoiding the plane impacts, including a somewhat unlikely case of a man who escaped with his life by hiding under his desk.

Don't forget that the wreckage that fell to the base would have been covered by the steel debris from the Towers collpase, which covered most of the 16 acre site.

However, before the collapses occurred, some debris should have been recovered by the emergency and/or city services at street level.

Trouble is, aircraft components have identities, and there has never been a complete inventory of parts that are known to have been recovered at any of the 911 sites made public.

That's one straight bureaucratic route a new investigation can easily take.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We met someone at a recent planning meeting who not only used to work in the world trade centre, but also watched all of the events from his flat acorss the river.

He saw the plane as it approached the south tower, described how it brough a feeling of hope because he thought it was going to drop water on the burning building, then watched it slam into the south tower.

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