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elohim
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 Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:22 am Post subject: Shooter - film encouraging 9/11 Truth? |
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Over on Infowars they have the above healine linked to a new movie starring Mark "Marky" Mark Wahlberg.
| Quote: | | Shooter , starring Mark Wahlberg, is the latest in a burgeoning trend of recent movies that carry a strong anti-government sentiment - the film is both political commentary and a damning expose of how the state stages black-ops in order to achieve political agendas. |
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http://www.infowars.com/articles/media/shooter_review_if_you_are_truth er_see_shooter.htm
The article written by Paul Watson encourages 9/11 truthers to go see the movie & no doubt we all will, however it goes on to state that:
| Quote: | | Response to the film has been mixed and poor in some quarters - critics have completely failed to understand that Shooter feeds directly into the the political and cultural zeitgeist of our time, and should be upheld as a fantastic example of how many Hollywood directors have vowed to devote their work in contribution to the mass awakening to the crimes of the state that is taking place worldwide. |
I fundementally disagree with this.
It is a foundational piece of propaganda, designed to ensure that you stay asleep.
Sure "9/11 truthers" will find self gratification in the facts of the movie, but for the masses it will wizz by as purley entertainment.
It is a tried & tested method to ensure people stay asleep to reality.
Facts & truth presented as entertainment will ensure that the majority of people view it as just that entertainment- not real.
It is well documented that entertainment is used to get people used to ideas or concepts so that when they really happen it is not alien, but natural.
Entertainment is the killer of knowledge.
Go see the movie, I will, I love to see fiction imitate life, but the majority just wont see it that way & that's the whole purpose.
I love this quote from the movie though
| Quote: | | In one scene that will delight 9/11 truthers, a copy of the 9/11 Commission Report is clearly visible for extended periods in the shot as Swagger loads up his Internet while stating, “Let's see what lies they are trying to sell us today.” |
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gareth
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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There does seem to an effort amongst a few actors that i know are good friends to make films revealing the secret machinations of america. I would rather these films existed and were in the public domain so i gotta disagree with you elohim. I think they are a tremendous way of educating folks.
Take this quote from The Good Shepherd for example:
| Quote: | | Soviet power is a myth. Great show. There are no spare parts. Nothing is working, nothing, it's nothing but painted brush. But you, you need to keep the Russian myth alive to maintain your military industry in conflux. Your system depends on Russia been perceive as a mortal threat. It's not a threat. It was never a threat. It will never be a threat. It's a rotted, loathed cow. |
eg. George Clooney in The Good Shepherd, Syriana, Good Night and Good Luck, Three Kings,
Mat Damon in The Good Shepherd, Syriana,
Mark Wahlberg in The Shooter, Three Kings
Plot Summaries: (swiped from imdb.com)
The Good Shepherd:Edward Wilson, the only witness to his father's suicide and member of the Skull and Bones Society while a student at Yale, is a morally upright young man who values honor and discretion, qualities that help him to be recruited for a career in the newly founded Office of Strategic Services (OSS, the predecessor of the Central Intelligence Agency). While working there, his ideals gradually turn to suspicion influenced by the Cold War paranoia present within the office. Eventually, he becomes an influential veteran operative, while his distrust of everyone around him increases to no end. His dedication to his work does not come without a price though, leading him to sacrifice his ideals and eventually his family.
Syriana: A missile disappears in Iran, but the CIA has other problems: the heir to an Emirate gives an oil contract to China, cutting out a US company that promptly fires its immigrant workers and merges with a small firm that has landed a Kazakhstani oil contract. The Department of Justice suspects bribery, and the oil company's law firm finds a scapegoat. The CIA also needs one when its plot to kill the Emir-apparent fails. Agent Bob Barnes, the fall guy, sorts out the double cross. An American economist parlays the death of his son into a contract to advise the sheik the CIA wants dead. The jobless Pakistanis join a fundamentalist group. All roads start and end in the oil fields.
Good Night and Good Luck: In the early 1950's, the threat of Communism created an air of paranoia in the United States and exploiting those fears was Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin. However, CBS reporter Edward R. Murrow and his producer Fred W. Friendly decided to take a stand and challenge McCarthy and expose him for the fear monger he was. However, their actions took a great personal toll on both men, but they stood by their convictions and helped to bring down one of the most controversial senators in American history.
Three Kings: In the days immediately after the Gulf War, a group of American soldiers come across a secret Iraqi map, which discloses the whereabouts of a bunker where Iraq is storing stolen gold and treasure from Kuwait. The soldiers hope to take the gold and keep it for themselves. However, when they arrive at the site, they discover that the Iraqi army is more concerned about persecuting its civilians than stopping them from stealing the gold. They learn that the civilians have been encouraged by the U.S. government to rise up and fight Saddam Hussein, but are facing certain execution because the U.S. military refuses to help them. This incident creates a crisis of conscience for the American soldiers. Do they take the money and run, leaving the civilians to face certain death at the hands of the Iraqi army? Or do they risk losing the gold in order to escort them to safety across the border into Iran?
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karlos
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there is a long history of movies and tv shows DUMBING DOWN the public.
think back to shows like dark angel, prison break, the nowhere man, john doe, the pretender, and hundreds of others, in fact you could even say MOST films and shows include a government conspiracy and cover up
this is a way of softening up the public.
EG the more swearing and sex you see on TV the more laid back and unshocked you are in real life.
The m ore conspiracy plots and covers ups you see the less shocked you are in real life and subconciously your mind thinks its a movie plo not real life. Like the x files and lone gunmen. Made by MURDOCH one of the ringleaders.
Going to watch shooter now anyway, let you know what i think or watch it yourself
http://www.flickpeek.com/movies/Action_1/Shooter-Latest-v_101/
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: William Peña |
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Saw it. Very silly. Wahlberg as an Oswald figure. A tiny bit about oil pipelines in Africa too. Maybe it'll open more eyes than it closes. Dunno  Probably not.
Worth mentioning that Wahlbergs co-star Michael Peña is certainly making an interesting career for himself:
World Trade Center (2006) Peña plays Will Jimeno a Port Authority Police Officer trapped in the rubble for 12 hours and miraculously rescued
Shooter (2007) Peña plays Nick Memphis an FBI agent who helps an Oswald type expose a false flag assassination of the President of the USA.
Lions for Lambs (2007 - in post production) Peña plays Ernest, a soldier wounded in the war in Afghanistan
The Return (2007 - in pre production) Peña plays T.K, a soldier wounded in Iraq who has trouble making sense of the america he returns to.
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0671567
I'm sure he'll kick himself one day!
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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that adam sandler film REIGN OF FIRE is doing the opposite
by claiming his family died in 911 he is helping to brainwash the viewers
at least by watching these movies on the net guarantees murdoch and the other propaganda merchants dont get any of our dosh
all the latest movies are on www.peekvid.com and www.flickpeek.com
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: What other films deal with 9/11 related storyline |
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You mean 'Reign Over Me'  'Reign Of Rire' is about a bunch of fire breathing dragons emerging from the earth and trying to establish dominance of the planet. No hang on.... 
There is an Ed Norton film called 'The 25th Hour' that goes with a similar storyline about a family member i think. Something in it to do with 9/11 anyway. I have to say that i didn't pay to see The Shooter, i've an arrangement with a Vietnamese dvd salesman
[edit]IMDB has a couple of user descriptions of the dragon caper 'Reign of Fire': '
| Quote: | A 12 year old Quinn Abercromby accompanies his mother to work one day at a London tunneling project, his witnesses the accidental uncovering a centuries old fire-breathing dragon beast and waken it from it's sleep. After witnesses the beast kill his mother the film jumps twenty years later to a grown up Quinn who is the "fire chief" in a refugee camp. Unexpectedly an American militia leader shows up at the camp with a group of men that he calls "slayers." Van Zan and Quinn engage in a power struggle, before realizing it's the dragons they should be fighting instead. Written by SindyMac
In present-day London, twelve-year-old Quinn watches as his mother, a construction engineer, inadvertently wakes an enormous fire-breathing beast from its century-long slumber. Twenty years later, much of the world has been scarred by the beast and its offspring. As a fire chief, Quinn is responsible for warding off the beasts and keeping a community alive as they eke out a meager existence. Into their midst come a hotshot American, Van Zan, who says he has a way to kill the beasts and save mankind - a way Quinn's never seen done. Fuses a medieval past with a post-apocalyptic future in this exciting tale of adventure and survival. Written by anonymous
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Interesting prevailing themes huh!
What other mainstream films deal with 9/11 related storylines?
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Bongo
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Just started getting Shooter on...
http://www.mininova.org/tor/650422
513 seeds, so should be pretty quick.
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Since people are talking about films, I wondered if anyone had seen 'Punishment Park'?
It's a striking low budget film from (about) 1971 which has only just become available after previously being 'buried' by not getting a distributor and hence was never actually released - unsurprising given its 'controversial' content.. Unusually for the time, it's done in a faux documentary style.
Basically, a British documentary film crew are observing a new American policy implemented as Vietnam goes seriously tits up and protest mounts; various 'subversives' - anti-war types, black activists etc are being rounded up on and subjected to military courts for undermining America. Inevitably found guilty they are given a choice; a long term in prison or punishment park - three days to cross a desert to find an American flag which if they reach they'll be set free. However, they are hunted en route by the National Guard as part of their training. The film cuts between one of the trials and a group trying to cross PP, where it all gets increasingly grim. It's not a cinematic masterpiece by any stretch and was made with a tiny budget - but is fascinating in its innovative style, overt cynicism and very dark vision of what America could have/may slide into.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Punishment-Park-Patrick-Boland/dp/B00005UWQ3/r ef=pd_bbs_sr_1/202-8236392-0889443?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1177762454&sr=8-1
note - some of the reviews, for some reason, appear to be talking about a completely different film!
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