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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: The states within the state Reply with quote

Lodges under the Scottish Constitution are thus sovereign bodies in their own right, with a considerable degree of control of their own affairs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Lodge_of_Scotland

Sovereign bodies? Working for whom? Are Scottish lodges like foreign embassies with 'diplomatic immunity' or suchlike?

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http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=8621

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: secret masonic kings Reply with quote

I the great tome "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison, which I advise everybody who can be bothered to read this to download immediately...
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/pc/index.htm
...we are told that the Illuminated masons have their own maps of the world, and Europe in particular, with the secret masonic kings of the various regions. Doesn't that sound similar to the Italian P2 lodge or 'Propaganda 2' or 'Parallel 2' lodge of which so much fact has been uncovered?

Also according to original 18th Century source Robison the highest degree if Illuminati is Rex, or king.

CHAPTER II - The Illuminati
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/pc/pc05.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the quote from Robison Chapter I, Schizms in Free Masonry
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/pc/pc04.htm
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About the year 1764 a new revolution took place. An adventurer, who called himself Johnson, and passed himself for an Englishman, but who was really a German or Bohemian named Leucht, said that he was ambassador from the Chapter of Knights Templars at Old Aberdeen in Scotland, sent to teach the Germans what was true Masonry. He pretended to transmute metals, and some of the Brethren declared that they had seen him do it repeatedly. This reached Baron Hunde and brought back all his former enthusiasm. There is something very dark in this part of the history; for in a little Johnson told his partisans that the only point he had to inform them of was, that Baron Hunde was the Grand Master of the 7th province of Masonry, which included the whole of Germany, and the royal dominions of Prussia. He showed them a map of the Masonic Empire arranged into provinces, each of which had distinguishing emblems. These are all taken from an old forgotten and insignificant book, Typotii Symbola Divina et Humana, published in 1601. There is not the least trace in this book either of Masonry or Templars, and the emblems are taken out without the smallest ground of selection. Some inconsistency with the former magnificent promises of Johnson startled them at first, but they acquiesced and submitted to Baron Hunde as Grand Master of Germany. Soon after Johnson turned out to be a cheat, escaped, was taken, and put in prison, where he died. Yet this seems not to have ruined the credit of Baron Hunde. He erected Lodges, gave a few simple instructions, all in the system of English Masonry, and promised, that when they had approved themselves as good Masons, he would then impart the mighty secret. After two or three years of noviciate, a convention was held at Altenberg; and he told them that his whole secret was, that every true Mason was a Knight Templar. They were astonished, and disappointed; for they expected in general that he would teach them the philosopher's stone, or ghost-raising, or magic. After much discontent, falling out, and dispute, many Lodges united in this system, made somewhat moderate and palatable, under the name of the STRICT DISCIPLINARIANS, Strickten Observanz. It was acceptable to many, because they insisted that they were really Knights, properly consecrated, though without temporalities; and they seriously set themselves about forming a fund which should secure the order in a landed property and revenue, which would give them a respectable civil existence. Hunde declared that his whole estate should devolve on the Order. But the vexations which he afterwards met with, and his falling in love with a lady who prevailed on him to become Roman Catholic, made him alter this intention. The Order went on, however, and acquired considerable credit by the serious regularity of their proceedings; and, although in the mean time a new apostle of Mysteries, a Dr. Zinzendorff, one of the Strict Observanz, introduced a new system, which he said was from Sweden, distinguished by some of the mystical doctrines of the Swedenborgh sect, and though this system obtained the Royal patronage, and a National Lodge was established at Berlin by patent, still the Terpelorden, or Orden des Stricten Observanz, continued to be very respectable. The German gentry were better pleased with a Grand Master of their own choosing, than with any imposed on them by authority.

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