Meacher to screen LC2E for MPs

[andrewwatson]

This from www.911blogger.com.

http://ukfilm.org/news/screened-for-mps-9-11-conspiracy-film

Labour MP Michael Meacher has arranged a special screening at the Houses of Parliament on 14th June. Loose Change, a 90-minute, $10,000 film by relative unkowns Korey Rowe and Dylan Avery, questions the official line about the cause of the collapse of the Twin Towers.

This film is, unsurpsingly, the subject of a heated debate. You can read about it and find links to the official site and free Google Video download on Wikipedia(video)". Please note that several aspects of the article's neutrality are disputed.

Meacher says: "I think 9/11 is so important that as many people as possible should see this film. That's what I hope to achieve. It really deserves to get the fullest exposure" (reported in Broadcast, 12th May edition).

[Andrew Johnson]

Thanks for the heads up!

[Graham]

sweet.

quite a few of them should have it for a while anyhoo.

[ian neal]

I have just posted this on the comments section

"This is a hugely significant step by Michael Meacher and his courage to speak out on 9/11 and 7/7 is to be applauded. A politician of integrity. What a shock.

I would like to see this discussion continue but respect the message from the editor that discussion of the significance of 9/11 and Michael Meacher's action is not on topic. I would like to invite posters to discuss this screening on this site www.nineeleven.co.uk and join us in raising awareness of 9/11 truth in this country"

This post by a critic is noteworthy. It's new to me

Discussion on the looose change forum

[Pikey]

Yep this is a great development for 911 truth seeking. I assume that its LC the second edition that will be shown.

Graham is correct to say that many of the MPs have been provided with hard copies of LC2 or referred to websites where they can download or view it for quite some time now!

June 14th is quite a long way off, is there any reason why it could not be shown in the HoC sooner or is there some significance about the date (i.e are all MPs going to be in London on that date for something else?)

I'd like to be a fly on the wall in the HoC on 14/6/! Perhaps we should all write to our constituency MPs to ensure they are aware of the event and ask them if they will be attending the presentation to represent our interests!

Quote:

This post by a critic is noteworthy. It's new to me

Ian refers to this critics website of LC2 which I have had a look through and would recommend serious 911 truth seekers to do the same and make your own judgement. I've only scanned through it quickly and will revisit it tonight. I agree with Ian it is worthy of our attention.

I have pasted part of it here:-

[Andrew Johnson]

A lot of work has been put into that critique, so I sent them this.
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Hello,

Congratulations on your incredibly detailed critique of Loose Change 2nd Edition

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

I am amazed at the level of detail. My observation was, however, that the tone of your commentary of Loose Change is not neutral. For sure There are at least a couple of classic mistakes in Loose Change (such as the "amazing plane which took off more times than it landed" and the B52 bomber in 1945), but the "Science is in" and the Twin Towers definitely did NOT collapse as a result of Jet Impacts. It seems there are lots of people do want to believe that the jets did cause all the destruction - but they didn't - only part of it.

I would also like to suggest that you take an hour or 2 of TV news coverage and dissect and critique to the same level - see how many mistakes you find.

To pick fault with some of the errors in Loose Change is to miss the point of why it was made and the intention behind it. In any case, there is plenty of other evidence outside what is packed in LC2, which again misses the point . As one of the film-makers says "I wish someone could prove to me the Al Qaida story was true - I had a nice life before this". I feel that way about this issue too.

You may be interested to know that 200+ Scholars (www.st911.org) have now got together to decide what to do to protect our future. They no longer accept the Official Conspiracy Theory. Please see here http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html for a list of people. With a flurry of Cognitive Dissonance, people say "um, can't see any structural engineers listed". They forget that Physics underpins Structural Engineering and, also, it is impossible for something to fall through concrete and steel as quickly as if falls through the air - as happened on 9/11. This applies whether the collapse time of WTC 1 or 2 was 9 or 15 seconds. The pulverisation of the building requires huge amounts of energy, as does the ejection of a steel beam, weighing 600,000 pounds.

http://www.gallerize.com/WINDY_TOWERS_OF_9-11_1.htm

The energy for this ejection and pulverisation does not come from a pancake collapse, nor a jet loaded with fuel. It comes from huge explosions, whose sound has been recorded on video in:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=9%2F11+ eyewitness

In any case, many 9/11 Truthers just want to see all the evidence released, such as the Pentagon tapes and those security camera tapes that were ceased from properties near the Pentagon. We want to see the final NIST report for WTC7 etc etc. Where's the evidence to support the Official Conspiracy Theory?

You can either say "well, it's OK that the UK and the USA are occupying Iraq and yeah Iran is a Nuclear Threat - after all, we need our Oil and stable economies don't we". Or you can realise the truth shown by the available evidence that we are in a terrible situation and only we can solve it. Members of ST911 all think it is time to decide how we fight the terrible corruption and crimes that have been committed on and since 9/11 - these are the real issues - not quibbles over B52 or B25 bombers or "13 takeoffs and 10 landings".

Yours Sincerely,

Andrew Johnson
British 9/11 Truth Campaign (www.nineeleven.co.uk)
Scholars for 9/11 Truth (www.st911.org)

[Martin Conner]

[Ian Henshall]

It strikes me this is the moment to press our local MPs to go to the screening. I will be saying to mine (in a marginal) that if she doesn't go I will do all I can to make sure she loses the seat at the next election

[andyb]

I agree with Ian, we really need to push our MP's to this screening. We should first try and confirm this screening and once this is done, start writing, faxing, phoning and meeting your MP to encourage them to the screening. We should have someone centrally keeping a spreadsheet of those MPs who atend and those who don't. We can then put more pressure on the ones that do go and hopefully they will start distributing LC2 to those who didn't.

Do you think we should let MP's know we are keeping a spreadsheet of who doesn't go? When this does all come out we can publish the list of MP's who refused to go.

[Martin Conner]

If anyone is looking for pigs at the trough, visit this site. http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

[andrewwatson]

Andrew - that link to the photo and piece about the 600,000 pound beam is incredible - a smoking , nay flaming gun if ever there was one. If deniers dismiss this, they're nuts , quite simply. They will, though, depend on it.

Lewis Carroll saw it all when he talked about believing three impossible things before breakfast. Not to mention ''sentence first, verdict later".

[TimmyG]

this is brilliant.

lets hope he gets it played

[scubadiver]

Of all people, Boris Johnson is my MP

I have sent him an email regarding this very matter!!!

I thought F9/11 was a good documentary until I saw LC2E


http://www.oilempire.us/loose-change.html has the following:

The Fool’s Gold

Fake evidence – traps to distract and discredit the 9/11 truth movement: pods, missiles, drones . . .

“It would seem that an entire plane disappeared upon impact.”
[Answer – Many documented plane crash sites leave virtually no large debris.]

“So what could blow a 16 foot hole in the outer ring of the Pentagon . . . A cruise missile.”
[Answer – Wrong. A Boeing 757 could.]

“Why is the damage to the Pentagon completely inconsistent with a Boeing 757?”
[Answer - It’s not, the first floor hole is over 90’ wide.]

“So if Flight 93 didn’t go down in Shanksville, then where? You ready for this? Cleveland.”
[Answer – Flt 93 was most likely shot down.]

“Flight 93 passengers were taken to an empty NASA research center.”
[This is pure speculation mixed with information from a real flight which landed, Delta 1989.]

“If different planes were used, what happened to the original ones?”
[Answer - There is no evidence that anything but the real planes were used in any the attacks.]

“None of those calls [from the flights] could have possibly taken place.”
[Answer – there is no clear evidence for the calls being fake or impossible.]

“So what happened in the North Tower? Ask Willie Rodriguez. . . . explosions coming from the basement . . .”

[Answer – even though were some explosions in the basement and lobby, we know the towers collapsed from the top down.]


What do you think?

[freddie]

Scuba said:

[ian neal]

Start of Broadcast article

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcastnowsearchResults.aspx?strSearch =meacher

Meacher challenges Blair on Iran

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9684

What would really help is if MM tabled an early day motion on 9/11

[Pikey]

Ian Neal states:-

[Snowygrouch]

All,
I think this just emphasizes the fact that when discussing with 9/11 newbies you have to stick to the one or two killer events such as WTC7
and the fact nobody has been fired for incompetance.
If we start straying into F93 and where are the passenger stuff we are admittedly venturing into conjecture. Those working for the `other side`
want this so as to make discrediting us an easy job.
Lets stick to what we can prove and keep hammering away!

I have faith that all the `powers that be` in the world are not nessesarily out to get us. There are plently of powerful people on our side who are just as worried about neo-con lunacy getting us into WW3. Its just a matter of time now that the truth movement has reached a critical mass.

An american who was in law enforecement I met recently summed it up quite well, if you catch a criminal wanted for 50 crimes you dont charge him with all 50 but pick the 5 you can prove easily and forget the rest.

Anyway its great that MPs will be watching LC2, there really could do with being a LC3 to clear up the errors but we cant have everything!

On a lighter note I thought that V for Vendetta was more or less a 9/11 film!!!!!!!!! The connotations were absolutely stunning. Anyway better go; I`m rambling again.......

Cheerio

Calum

"Dont let the b****** get you down!"

[Jane]

The best way to get your MP's attention (in my case Greg Mulholland, Lib/Dem) is whilst he is out strolling round town with his wife and nice plump little baby girl (Isabel) as I managed to do in Otley last night....he has agreed to watch our DVD and actually asked me to send it to him.....I can now back it up with this news about Michael Meacher, who really does deserve several big rounds of applause - he must be a man for all seasons or something - he strikes me as a nice bloke as well and so does Greg...surely some things must transend party boundries...

..but I need a copy of Loose Change 2 please (as I would think this is the best film to send) if anyone could send me one? I would also like some help with composing a letter to accompany the DVD that gets straight to the point and doesn't "ramble on" as I know I have a tendency to do...

a little help, please!!

[alwun]

hi Jane,
google (or better 'scroogle') bittorrent sites, choose the most popular by readership(TPB), and you will notice that Loose Change 2 has been downloaded some 14,000 times. With a fast connection you should have it in a couple of hours. Good luck.
Allan

[Jane]

Thanks Alwun!

[xmasdale]

[xmasdale]

[Pikey]

Correspondence despatched to my constituency MP today for the record:-

[xmasdale]

This article about Michael Meacher's screening of Loose Change to MPs has appeared in the magazine, Broadcast.


MPs to watch cult 9/11 documentary
Dominic Schreiber
11 May

A controversial US documentary that casts doubt over the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Center during 9/11 is to be shown to MPs next month.


Made by Americans Korey Rowe and Dylan Avery on a laptop for less than $10,000, Loose Change claims the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled explosion.

The 90-minute film has gained a cult following and according to Labour MP Michael Meacher - who has arranged the screening on 14 June at the Houses of Parliament - the evidence assembled proves there are major discrepancies in the official accounts of what happened, including the findings of the 9/11 Commission.

"It is an issue that clearly the media and many members of the public shy away from," he said.

"I think 9/11 is so important that as many people as possible should see this film. That's what I hope to achieve. It really deserves to get the fullest exposure."

To contact Broadcast with a news story please call 020 7505 8040 or send an email to broadcastnews@emap.com

[kbo234]

Sorry to say that Michael meacher is no longer going to show "Loose Change' to MP's.

I congratulated him (as recommended on this site) by email. here is his reply:

"After full consideration, Mr Meacher is not arranging for this film to be shown."

Regards
Monica Masson PA

Rt Hon Michael Meacher MP, House of Commons

What kind of pressure do you think was put on him? Very disappointing. It just shows you what we are up against.

[andyb]

That is tragic news. I do believe though, that all MP's have been sent copies. Perhaps he read about 'Everbody's Gotta Learn Sometime' and hopefully thought best to hold off until that was available, as it sounds like it may be a better film to watch first.

Also someone else mentioned getting the message to the House of Lords. Does anyone know if this had been done? Shirley Williams may be a good start?

[andyb]

Just had a result. Found out a woman at work is an advisor in the HoL and she's offered to give Shirley Williams LC2 for me. Should be able to get rid of a few more through her. Let me know of any peers who may be receptive.

[ian neal]

By complete coincidence I bumped into one of Michael Meacher's assistants at a demonstration yesterday evening. We discussed 9/11 truth in general and our network/website in this country as well as MM decision not to screen Loose Change. I got the strong impression that MM is still commited to holding a film screening and I suggested that EGLST may be more 'suitable' to an audience of MPs. Whilst it largely avoids physical evidence the conclusion that 9/11 stinks is the same. His assistant was unaware of this site but siad he would check it out and email me, so hopefully out of this will come greater contact and cooperation

[Dr Hemp]

[Martin Conner]