FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist  Chat Chat  UsergroupsUsergroups  CalendarCalendar RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

WTC Sci-Fi Channel UFO Is A Hoax

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    9/11, 7/7, Covid-1984 & the War on Freedom Forum Index -> 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Killtown
9/11 Truth critic
9/11 Truth critic


Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 438
Location: That Yankee country the U.S.

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: WTC Sci-Fi Channel UFO Is A Hoax Reply with quote

Not about 9/11, but just to make the point:

Quote:
WTC Sci-Fi Channel UFO Is CGI...Not UFO

When this article first ran, we received dozens of emails and found quite a lot of commotion about it elsewhere on the net. Many people are convinced the footage is the real deal. In an attempt to clarify even further, I wrote the actress in question, Barbara Sicuranza, and reiterated my query regarding the sci-fi channel "ufo" footage. Again, she confirmed that it was indeed a computer generated hoax (CGI), created as a promo for sci-fi channel. She is a hired actress and this work is listed on her resumé



http://www.rense.com/general41/scihoax.htm



Link

_________________
killtown.blogspot.com - 911movement.org
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
marky 54
Mega Poster
Mega Poster


Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Posts: 3293

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only point i think this raises is how hard it is to tell if something is faked or real. it proves how easy it is for people to fake footage whilst also making real footage seem fake, ie; any clip can now be claimed to be fake.

people who do this type of thing just confuse the whole thing and make it impossible to tell what is real and what is fake.

how ever even knowing this clip is fake its still more convincing that alot of the tv fakers claims.

on the basis of that clip should i believe everything we are exposed to is fake, even every 9/11 clip?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Long Tooth
Moderate Poster
Moderate Poster


Joined: 06 Apr 2007
Posts: 306

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: WTC Sci-Fi Channel UFO Is A Hoax Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
Not about 9/11, but just to make the point:

Quote:
WTC Sci-Fi Channel UFO Is CGI...Not UFO

When this article first ran, we received dozens of emails and found quite a lot of commotion about it elsewhere on the net. Many people are convinced the footage is the real deal. In an attempt to clarify even further, I wrote the actress in question, Barbara Sicuranza, and reiterated my query regarding the sci-fi channel "ufo" footage. Again, she confirmed that it was indeed a computer generated hoax (CGI), created as a promo for sci-fi channel. She is a hired actress and this work is listed on her resumé



http://www.rense.com/general41/scihoax.htm



Link


here's another satelitte channel thats hilarious, the history channel. If your feeling down and need cheering up tune in to the history channel, never fails to get me laughing Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Killtown
9/11 Truth critic
9/11 Truth critic


Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 438
Location: That Yankee country the U.S.

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
on the basis of that clip should i believe everything we are exposed to is fake, even every 9/11 clip?

Was that a serious question?

_________________
killtown.blogspot.com - 911movement.org
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
marky 54
Mega Poster
Mega Poster


Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Posts: 3293

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
on the basis of that clip should i believe everything we are exposed to is fake, even every 9/11 clip?

Was that a serious question?


yes i was guessing at what these clips are suppose to prove and asking.

you say the clip proves a point, but what point?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ray Ubinger
Minor Poster
Minor Poster


Joined: 09 Apr 2007
Posts: 90

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barbara Sicuranza CHANGED HER STORY. She cannot be taken at her word.

Post-S11 pressure from the perps may have gotten her to start saying it was CGI. But when she submitted the tape to the SciFi Channel, her pre-S11 cover letter spoke purely authentically of it. The footage itself dates from July 24, 2000.

Here's her rarely seen letter to the SciFi Channel, which accompanied the footage in its initial release to the public.

http://tinyurl.com/28bdt
aka
http://web.archive.org/web/20010615150525/http://www.scifi.com/happens  /ufoletter.html


Ray Ubinger
Durham NC USA
http://911foreknowledge.com/rayswhatzits.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John White
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Posts: 3187
Location: Here to help!

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
on the basis of that clip should i believe everything we are exposed to is fake, even every 9/11 clip?

Was that a serious question?


yes i was guessing at what these clips are suppose to prove and asking.

you say the clip proves a point, but what point?


I'm interested to know too

Of course, I could guess, but equally I'm sure killtown can elaborate

_________________
Free your Self and Free the World
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Killtown
9/11 Truth critic
9/11 Truth critic


Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 438
Location: That Yankee country the U.S.

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
on the basis of that clip should i believe everything we are exposed to is fake, even every 9/11 clip?

Was that a serious question?


yes i was guessing at what these clips are suppose to prove and asking.

you say the clip proves a point, but what point?

Geez people, it's not rocket science. If they could fake a flying object in that video w/ CGI, why couldn't the planes be faked in the 2nd hit videos w/ CGI too?

_________________
killtown.blogspot.com - 911movement.org
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
Ray Ubinger
Minor Poster
Minor Poster


Joined: 09 Apr 2007
Posts: 90

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the footage in Quicktime so you can pause and view frame-by-frame with the arrow keys.
http://www.ufocasebook.com/wtcvideo.mov

If it's fake, they put a remarkable amount of detail into it. Like how it moves between the Towers before she even notices it. And how its tail end scrunches up like a caterpillar for one frame before it darts away from the Tower, like a false start as it "decided" the best time to flee. And how the pilot has lines of "dialogue" too ("oh wow" and "some kinda blimp?"). And how it jiggles around when it's hovering several blocks north of them. And how it SPROUTS WINGS AND MOVES LIKE A FLAPPING BIRD in its final hyperspace ascent.


Ray Ubinger
Durham NC USA
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John White
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Posts: 3187
Location: Here to help!

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
on the basis of that clip should i believe everything we are exposed to is fake, even every 9/11 clip?

Was that a serious question?


yes i was guessing at what these clips are suppose to prove and asking.

you say the clip proves a point, but what point?

Geez people, it's not rocket science. If they could fake a flying object in that video w/ CGI, why couldn't the planes be faked in the 2nd hit videos w/ CGI too?


Whose "they"? Something of an over-simplification there, Rocket Science or not

Ignoring the obvious problems with equating one peice of footage with another entirely different peice of footage and concluding that the faking of one "proves" the other faked (theres not a single second of video that can't be challenged with that reasoning, thus invalidatity the supposition that video can be used as evidence of anything at all, including faking, being as faking is considered indistiguishable from genuine) there are other difficulties in the comparison:

I'm thinking massive collaborative testimony indicating planes on 9/11, and no coroboration at all for the UFO footage other than the poeple who made it

I can spot a difference there, and its not rocket science Laughing

_________________
Free your Self and Free the World
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
marky 54
Mega Poster
Mega Poster


Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Posts: 3293

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
on the basis of that clip should i believe everything we are exposed to is fake, even every 9/11 clip?

Was that a serious question?


yes i was guessing at what these clips are suppose to prove and asking.

you say the clip proves a point, but what point?

Geez people, it's not rocket science. If they could fake a flying object in that video w/ CGI, why couldn't the planes be faked in the 2nd hit videos w/ CGI too?


so i was correct that the point was because the u.f.o footage is being claimed as faked then we should believe everything we are exposed to is fake, including all the 9/11 clips.

to which you answered "was that a serious question?"

talk about play games.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John White
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Posts: 3187
Location: Here to help!

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
on the basis of that clip should i believe everything we are exposed to is fake, even every 9/11 clip?

Was that a serious question?


yes i was guessing at what these clips are suppose to prove and asking.

you say the clip proves a point, but what point?

Geez people, it's not rocket science. If they could fake a flying object in that video w/ CGI, why couldn't the planes be faked in the 2nd hit videos w/ CGI too?


so i was correct that the point was because the u.f.o footage is being claimed as faked then we should believe everything we are exposed to is fake, including all the 9/11 clips.

to which you answered "was that a serious question?"

talk about play games.


Its as if killtown works for Never A Straight Answer! Laughing

_________________
Free your Self and Free the World
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Killtown
9/11 Truth critic
9/11 Truth critic


Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 438
Location: That Yankee country the U.S.

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
should believe everything we are exposed to is fake, including all the 9/11 clips.

Who said "everything"?

_________________
killtown.blogspot.com - 911movement.org
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
Killtown
9/11 Truth critic
9/11 Truth critic


Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 438
Location: That Yankee country the U.S.

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John White wrote:
Its as if killtown works for Never A Straight Answer! Laughing

Isn't there a policy at this forum against moderators slandering?

_________________
killtown.blogspot.com - 911movement.org
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
John White
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Posts: 3187
Location: Here to help!

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
should believe everything we are exposed to is fake, including all the 9/11 clips.

Who said "everything"?


So how do you, personally, discern?

What methodology would you reccomend for sifting the genuine from the fake?

_________________
Free your Self and Free the World
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John White
Site Admin
Site Admin


Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Posts: 3187
Location: Here to help!

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
John White wrote:
Its as if killtown works for Never A Straight Answer! Laughing

Isn't there a policy at this forum against moderators slandering?


We should have a policy against people with no sense of humour perhaps... after all, you started on the "rocket science" quips

_________________
Free your Self and Free the World
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
marky 54
Mega Poster
Mega Poster


Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Posts: 3293

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
marky 54 wrote:
should believe everything we are exposed to is fake, including all the 9/11 clips.

Who said "everything"?


er Confused tv fakers and no planers claim that every 9/11 clip is faked, every ounce of footage has been linked here and called into question at some point.

so the u.f.o clip just proves that only what you claim to be faked is faked and not what others claim?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Andrew Johnson
Mighty Poster
Mighty Poster


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 1919
Location: Derbyshire

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
John White wrote:
Its as if killtown works for Never A Straight Answer! Laughing

Isn't there a policy at this forum against moderators slandering?


Yes there is a policy and it was loosely agreed. Perhaps it was more loosely agreed than I realised - so loose in fact, it's "fallen off"....

_________________
Andrew

Ask the Tough Questions, Folks!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    9/11, 7/7, Covid-1984 & the War on Freedom Forum Index -> 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group