CNN TV Fakery Proven

[Fred]

Link

[ian neal]

FYI until today I only had moderator rights. Until they were upgraded to administrator rights I have been reluctant to get involved in the arguments between John and Fred. Thankfully I now have these rights, so I can act on any threats to ban someone and hopefully restore some order to the forum.

I will take my time on deciding what needs to be said about accusations from both John and Fred, but in the meantime there will one thread and one thread only for the discussion of this matter.

and that's this one

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=68371#68371

All the other Fred threads will be locked and dumped in this section.

Over the past few days the forum rules have been repeatedly broken. Specifically accusations of lying, shill and puerile name calling. I will decide at my leisure what action if any is required but in the meantime any one choosing to post on this topic should do so without resorting to personal accusations or repetition of previous accusations. Take heed.

Thanks

[ian neal]

I'll leave this one since it is vaguely discussing evidence

[nomore]

Capturing a subject the same size with different focal length lenses yields very different results. When using a wider lens, more of the background is depicted. In contrast, with a telephoto focal length, the background view is narrower and will appear closer to the subject (compressed).



The CNN video would have been shot using a telephoto lens.

Therefore, all of the lines on maps are pointless unless you know what focal lenth was used, and what size the imager (CCD) on the camera was.

[telecasterisation]

Just a question about the growth rate of sycamores;

Fred states that sycamores grow at just 2ft per year, however depending on the variety/species they can grow up to 8ft per year.

In fact, the average growth rate of American Sycamores;

'Very popular for residential landscaping because of its fast growth (up to 6 feet a year) and thick canopy... which provides tons of shade.'

I can appreciate that when researching 'sycamore growth rate', the generic figure of 2ft per year is the one that pops up as the accepted annual figure. However, the specific variety of tree has significant influence on the actual figure and the trees would be potentially much higher than expected.

Therefore, did Fred simply take the first quoted '2ft' figure as being gospel without accurately identifying the variety of sycamore? I am not saying this is the case, it is merely a question;

Fred, can you please state your source as to what species of sycamore you are citing?

If Fred is no longer with us, perhaps one of his cohorts can pose the question and relay the response?

[Fred]

Hi, it is my understanding that the trees in the park were mature long before 9-11. Nevertheless we do not need the treeline to show that the shot is impossible since buildings such as the Millenium Hilton are out-of-position.

The photos on http://www.bigfoto.com/sites/galery/sept11/ show adult trees. I do not have any special information about the trees other than that they were planted decades before September 11, 2001. Photos from 9/11 and before show that lampposts were clearly visible in the park, and 19 Rector Street should be clearly visible.

Brand new research reveals the common composite video technique that was used in many 9/11 videos and the CNN footage is no exception. The omission of 19 Rector Street is smoking gun evidence for the use of composite layer animation. The endless last-ditch attempts to defend the fake video are signs that the videos which support the Official Story are the only remaining threads keeping the entire 9/11 plot from unravelling.

All the trees could have been chopped down before 9/11 and we could still prove the video is fake based on the relative position of the buildings themselves. Of course, the lack of crash physics on display is smoking gun evidence as well.

Feel free to do some more research on the trees if you like.

Cheers,

Fred

[nomore]

[Stefan]

nomore,
Some people have very fixed views, the important thing is that everyone else noted your points.

Thanks for them.

[telecasterisation]

[marky 54]

what is also puzzling is the reply to you tele.

fred says its his understanding the the trees were fully mature long before 9/11, but the video caption contridicts this understanding.

[Fred]

I will use small words and see if that helps.

The video is not real. It is fake. You cannot shoot it from a park. You cannot shoot it from a boat. You cannot shoot it from a car. Go to the park. See for yourself.

Did you get that? Trees do not grow to the sky. Those trees have been there for many years. Some people may say "those trees are new". They are not new. They are old. How do I know? I checked.

Were the trees there on 9/11? Yes. How fast could trees grow? Two feet per year. Could the trees have grown so much so fast that they were not there on 9/11 but they are there now? No.

Big trees have leaves. Leaves ruin shots. That video is fake.

I hope you now know.

Bye.

[Fred]

Hi Mark. You are not a good boy. Your post is bad. Why not learn? Try to read. Video fake. Tree there. Tree block shot. Not grow so fast. There there. Do not be sad. You can learn. Try to think.

[Fred]

So, I'm trying to understand. Do they have a special version of the internet there in the UK that lacks information on trees? I posted photos showing the trees in the park on 9/11. Wonderboy accused me of faking a photograph to waste a bunch of my time. Now he's out of a job as moderator here and reassigned to other duties.

Maybe you're not too bright, but THERE IS NO PLACE ON PLANET EARTH WHERE THE CNN SHOT COULD HAVE BEEN FILMED FROM. If you don't believe me go test it yourself. Go to the library and get a book about trees, or better yet, go to park and measure tree growth yourself. The trees would have ruined the shot on 9/11, but that's not the only thing wrong with the shot. Buildings are in the wrong place too. That's not the only thing wrong with the shot either.

I'll be really excited to find out what you learn about trees by doing your own research. Stop wasting everyone's time with questions you should have answered for yourself.

[telecasterisation]

[Fred]

Hi Tele,

I'd like to know about carrots.

Could you please tell me how many carrots were on the airplane that crashed into the world trade center?

How many carrots does a rabbit eat in a day?

Is there a garden in England where the carrots for United 175 were grown?

Why don't we see any carrots in the CNN footage?

I would look this up, but I think I'll ask you instead.

Please spend your time doing research for me because my time is a lot more valuable than yours.

I thought you were a nice person.

Now I'm disappointed in you.

Why won't you do work for me?

I want you to help me because I am very lazy.

Love,

Fred

[telecasterisation]

[nomore]

According to this website, those trees grow about 6ft per year.

http://www.fast-growing-trees.com/AmericanSycamore.htm

6ft * 5years = 30ft

[telecasterisation]

[nomore]

There is the possibility that the trees are trimmed at an interval too.

[Fred]

Here's some independent confirmation


http://www.livevideo.com/video/sicizzum/7A955FE3604E4E6489B56535B57B15 EB/battery-park.aspx

[John White]

[Fred]

Look, it's the INDEPENDANT iro marky 54!

Is he in the wrong spot too Marky?

[John White]

[marky 54]

[marky 54]

IF YOU HAVE 100% FACTUAL EVIDENCE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

i dont see all the evidence for beams either but you dont see AJ and JUDY WOODS sat there complaining and doing nothing!

they believe there is evidence for it and trying to do something at least!

i dont see the evidence for certain things i try to point that out it gets ignored or you get attacked.

if you believe it and think im wrong about the problems ive pointed out and everyone else is wrong then do something about it, instead of forcing everyone to see something they dont see and attacking them for not licking your butt crack and worshipping the ground you walk on like your other followers!

its not hard to send your evidence off with asking people to look at it with a few questions is it? you know cnn,bbc mp's other media sources etc etc

[rodin]

Adjusting focal length can move an object close-field relative to background, but only if close-field object to camera length changes. My earlier post on the subject is correct.

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=8683

[nomore]

[telecasterisation]

This is like some bizarre epidemic, it seems that every video taken in New York HAS to contain a daft black dot hovering in the sky?!