With what else do you associate the number 9/11?

[scubadiver]

Apart from the date that is?

I've never seen it on any website but could it be that the most obvious aspect of the attacks is the least talked about but could provide one of the biggest clues?

[Martin Conner]

9-11, 7-7-7 should we be preparing for the beast on the 6th June 06?

The Illuminati have a thing for numbers.

[TimmyG]

i'm still skeptical about the whole illuminati control thing.. i think freemasonry might be part of it all however.


these date things really are interesting tho. 9/11 - 7/7 ... madrid bombings being 911 days after.
i'm def gonna be watching the news on 6/6/6

[Jane]

Firstly that it is the American version of 999 - EMERGENCY! But they may not have chosen that date to make people think that - something else may have come in to play to help us to wake up and see there is an emergency!!!

Secondly I remember I went to catch a different bus to normal that day - I walked to the other bus stop and stood there ages but no bus came - I was consequently late now having missed my normal bus - as I walked crossly towards the bus station I looked up at the wooden poster of "The Tower" tarrot card up on the wall - showing a tower topling over with people falling out of it - there was once a play called "The Tower" put on in Otley and this has been left there to remember it.

Then I remember being obsessed with the Kaaba Stone in Mecca at that time and the film and book "2001" - and the monoliths - I was actually looking up "the stones of satan" on the Net (not sure if I should have been working at the time!!) when someone's husband called - he came through on my line for some reason - he had just seen the News on tv. I also remember I had a post card of the twin towers propped against the wall near my desk - I'd just been to New York. I also remember saying (having just been told that the first tower had been strook by a plane "Well, that means half of New York will have been flattened, those towers are really tall!" Ok - bit of a dumb think to say - all I could imagine was this massive tower falling down - scattering concrete all over the place, bashing into other buildings, causing all kinds of disasters! Oh no, I was told, the tower just came straight down after being hit - then someone came dashing in saying that thw other tower had also been hit .... I just thought "funny" how could the tower have just gone straight down like that ...and I kept wondering!!

I also remember someone saying about another plane which had also been "hijacked" and it had said on the news it was now flying along with two fighter bombers flying alongside it - she must have heard that somewhere - does anywone else know where this came from?

Also, can I just mention here - I remember sitting at my desk about a month after and suddently thinking "somethng else has just happened!" and looking on a BBC News website or something - it said that news was just coming in of a plane coming down in Queens New York - does anyone else remember this? I only think there must have been something to notice about this event (apart from the tragedy of people being killed again) with me somehow "knowing" something had just happened like that. Didn't a lot of Firemen live in Queens? I bet there is something to look into there - that plane crash.

Anyway, better get off home now.

[scubadiver]

[Pikey]

Interesting point scubadiver.

Yep its all about control! Maintain people in a negative state and they are easy to control:- feed them with fear, debt, and drugs and they will never come out of that state and see the truth.

Analyse childrens energy state when they start Primary school and compare that with when they leave Primary school!

Whats our next big global event?

The "beautiful game" World Cup in GERMANY!!!!!! and 6/6/06 is on its way!

I think I might be getting a bit paranoid!

[Jim]

Jane,

One interesting synchronicity ... I had a dream about 9 months ago and in it, as clear as day (clearer than the normal dreamscape haze) I saw a grey, roughly formed stone tablet with the words "Lucifer's Stones" chiselled into it and large jewels with various colours embedded all over it's front face.

I had never seen or read anything (consciously at least) about "Lucifer's Stones" but was compelled to check online (immediately, as i woke when I saw that image) and found only one reference to the breast-plates worn by ancient Jewish high priests and that Lucifer's Breastplate was adorned with many different, specific precious stones ...

Links:

http://www.geocities.com/rebornempowered/priesthood/ch3.htm
http://www.ohr.org.il/yhiy/article.php/2032
etc.

[DrJazzz]

Porsches... I want one. Wonder if 9/11 helped their value

[uselesseater]

I don't think the date was picked as it relates to the emergency service number. Rather that the emergency number was itself picked because of what it represents in satanism, satanists being obsessed with numerology and symbology. I don't think it's the 9 that is of significance but the 11. 9 being attached to make the digits total 11 i.e. 9+1+1 = 11. I think there was a page posted on here a while back showing how the number 11 crops up in every facet of 911.

[night_hawk50]

I've always looked at it as the phone number. If you think about it police, firemen, and hospitals got a lot of attention and a renewed respect after 9/11. When you have an emergency, what phone number do you dial-- 911.

[Martin Conner]

[uselesseater]

http://www.greatdreams.com/trade_numbers.htm

I'm sceptical about all these occurences of 11. There is a phenomenon known as number frequency or something which dictated that when you start adding things up the most common digit in the results is 1 then 2, 3 and so on. Auditers actually look at the comparative proportion of digits to see if the accounts might have been faked.

[paul wright]

[Jane]

[numeral]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587

http://www.airdisaster.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-53148.html

[paul wright]

There was not only the explosion over Queens, but a number of air crashes in France, Italy and a couple over Russia, there was that airplane full of Holidaying kids from the Russian elite that crashed in Germany?, a massive explosion in Toulouse, and of course anthrax
Just to kind of rub 9/11 in

[flamesong]

Sometimes observing people juggling with numbers is like watching Russell Crowe hamming up John Nash in 'A Beautiful Mind'. I spent a few hours working with a very unwell young man recently who claimed that he was at the centre of a conspiracy involving the number 41 - he could make any scenario fit his theory but only by bending the rules of mathematics and very clumsy sleight of hand which was embarassing to experience.

I stumbled upon this page which comprehensively covers all things '11':

http://www.september11news.com/Mysteries2.htm

Should I be alarmed that some members of this forum have names with eleven letters? And what about all the members of the US elite whose names do not have 11 letters? Are they therefore innocent?

On the top of page 911 of the Trinitarian edition of the King James Bible it says, 'Destruction of Jerusalem foretold' and a graphic account lies therein. Other editions of The Bible have nothing of significance.

I read a post elsewhere from somebody who said that whenever they looked at clocks it seemed to be 9:11. Rather oddly, I started to notice the phenomenon myself. But perhaps the time was not registering when I looked at clocks when it wasn't 9:11. The phenomenon seems to have worn off now. At 9:11 this morning I was fast asleep.

There is a theory that events 'clump' together, illustrated by the behavious of raisins in a cake mixture. They don't space out evenly - they form loose clumps (everything comes in threes?). Add to that a predisposition for observing clumping behaviour - looking for patterns - consciously or otherwise and it would be more surprising if they didn't occur.

There is also a general misunderstanding of the laws of chance. For example, you are more likely to get one number in the lottery than none. If there are 25 people in a room there is a greater than 50% chance that two of them share the same birthday. And if you sit down next to a total stranger on a train (in the UK), the chances are that 99% of people will find a mutual aquaintance - if you talk long enough! And every now and then a horse with your lucky number will win.

[Poseidon]

The Flight 587 "accident" is in the same class of events as the Egyptian ferry sinking, London 7/7, Sharm al-Sheikh 23/7, and Amman 9/11 (November 9). As long ago as Victorian times, the Illuminati, Rothschilds, Zionists or whatever you prefer to call them, knew that control of the central banks of the world's major countries, the setting up of "advisors" and "experts" with special training in internationalism, and ability to forge close ties with political leaders for bribery and blackmail purposes, was not enough for them. They wanted to have a global terror network and protection racket that would give them even more leverage on governments. After setting up a rogue state (Israel) that would supply the terror network and also provide a nuclear blackmail option, hits on governments were regularly ordered. Each hapless target is then forced to concoct any explanation but the truth.

Flight 587 was sabotaged including loosening of bolts securing the vertical stabiliser, so that the Bush administration would provide Israel and the crime syndicate with a firm guarantee and a timetable for the invasion of Iraq. It was then left to the target to concoct a phony explanation involving "turbulence" and a pretext of "WMDs" for the invasion.

[Jane]

I think the Mel Gibson character in the film "Signs" says something about some people just see "coincidences" whilst he sees "signs." I think there is probably meaning to be found in all "coincidences" we experience - they say there are no coincidences and no accidents...we just often don't see the chain of events that led up to them.

I could see a really big "accident" coming up a few years ago - the world ending in a major nuclear war! I don't think the world would want this to happen so there are lots of "signs" for us to see and figure out - 9/11 being the big one!! By acting on the "signs" we have been given we can turn the world around and head towards a much happier fate! Also we might be able to do some "reality" shifting in the process:

http://www.lightlink.com/vic/story.html

http://home.thirdage.com/Spirituality/realityshifter/

http://www.life-cycles-destiny.com/for/the-law-of-seriality-kammerer.h tm

And what led me to all this:

http://members.cox.net/stegokitty/dsotr_pages/dsotr.htm

[johnnyhotshots]

Plane Crashes in Queens, New York
November 12, 2001 — American Airlines Flight 587 crashed on takeoff in the borough of Queens in New York City. The Airbus A300 was headed from JFK International airport to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. It was not immediately clear whether there were any survivors, as rescue crews rushed to the scene. Homeland security surveillance flights in the area reported no unusual activity, according to the Pentagon.

The flight carrying 255 people went down at 9:17 a.m. EST in the Rockway section of Queens, about five miles from Kennedy Airport. At least four buildings are on fire, according to local media reports. Approximately 44 trucks and 200 firefighters have been dispatched to the scene.Mayor Rudy Giuliani said there were two crash sites -- one where the plane landed and another where an engine landed. According to firefighter reports, an engine dropped from the plane.



Nine ERVs were deployed and will remain at the disaster site to provide food and refreshments to emergency crews and rescue workers.

The plane, an Airbus A300, was en route from New York to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, was scheduled to leave at 8:40 a.m. EST, but takeoff was delayed until 9:14 a.m. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said the plane was carrying 246 passengers and nine crew members.

Authorities immediately closed the New York metropolitan area's three major airports – JFK, LaGuardia and Newark. Mayor Rudolph Giuliani announced that bridges and tunnels into and out of the city were temporarily closed. They were later reopened to outbound traffic. Giuliani also declared a Level One emergency, mobilizing all available police, fire and emergency personnel.






The crash affected both national and international air traffic. British Airways said it had two flights en route to New York at the time of the crash. A spokesman said those planes would be diverted. A Lufthansa flight to New York was grounded. In Los Angeles, airport officials said flights to the three New York-area airports had been grounded.

A senior FBI official said there had been no intelligence gathered and no threats made, "nothing to indicate this was an act of terrorism," he told CNN.

But New Yorkers are still very much on edge after the attacks of September 11 and Monday's crash was a terrifying event for local residents. "I was in my kitchen.. and I saw the plane hit the house behind my house. It was so low, I was ducking almost, then huge fireballs... and I jumped out of the ... window of my house," an eyewitness told CNN. "I ran right across the street ... it's unbelievable. It sounded like two planes. It was flying too low, and then it hit. It was like a bomb exploded."

As part of the Federal Response Plan for Aviation Disasters, the American Red Cross is responsible for consoling and providing mental health counseling to the families of aviation disaster victims and survivors and also for helping response workers deal with the trauma that follows a crash. The American Red Cross of Greater New York had recently trained a number of new counselors who will help the mental and spiritual health counselors on the organization's specially trained Aviation Incident Response (AIR) Team. A command center for the Air Team and other Red Cross responders has been established at a Ramada Inn near the airport. The Red Cross is also opening shelters for evacuated residents.

About 200 family members of passengers on the plane were waiting at the Las Americas International Airport in Santo Domingo, said Dominican customs official Evelyn Aredondo. "People are watching TV, waiting to hear something," she told CNN. "They are very upset."

American Airlines set up a telephone number for family members to call for information. The number is 1-800-245-0999

[johnnyhotshots]

Watch Terminator 3 on dvd and fast forward to the scene where Sky Net goes online; the time on the dvd player display is 1hr:11min:11sec

spooky, eh?

[Jane]

[paul wright]

[Jane]

[Martin Conner]

[johnnyhotshots]

Didn't an engine fall off the plane and land on a row of houses killing fire-fighters that lived there who attended the WTC?

I need to investigate this further....

[johnnyhotshots]

Here's an article to prove my point:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138409,00.html

[johnnyhotshots]

...and another:

http://robots.cnn.com/2001/US/11/18/prayer.service/

[Jane]

Hope people don't mind me posting something as long as the following - but I sent this to my friend Bev in Bristol less than a month ago: