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Dogsmilk
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Just to add:
My understanding is that this 'evidence' is regarded as definitive and unimpeachable by its proponents. This is a strong claim which purports to be self evident upon viewing to those who understand what they are looking for. I would confess that I have no experience in or knowledge of video recording, processing or manipulation. I suspect this is not unique among your audience.
Therefore, would it not be more productive to be sending these films to representatives of the media? Even if, as has been claimed, the BBC wee fully complicit, it would be utterly absurd to suggest this involved the entire staff. One or two interested and knowledgeable people could help 'blow this thing wide open' as they would presumably be able to see what you're getting at instantly.
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schizophrenogenic element
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| Dogsmilk wrote: | Just to add:
My understanding is that this 'evidence' is regarded as definitive and unimpeachable by its proponents. This is a strong claim which purports to be self evident upon viewing to those who understand what they are looking for. I would confess that I have no experience in or knowledge of video recording, processing or manipulation. I suspect this is not unique among your audience.
Therefore, would it not be more productive to be sending these films to representatives of the media? Even if, as has been claimed, the BBC wee fully complicit, it would be utterly absurd to suggest this involved the entire staff. One or two interested and knowledgeable people could help 'blow this thing wide open' as they would presumably be able to see what you're getting at instantly. |
Totally. The thing is that you guys automatically discredit NPT because that is what you have been programmed to do. You were double bluffed and you are still fobbing it off. You are not giving it room to breathe nor opening up your mind to any other possibility than that lumpen idea about 'remote controlled planes'. If the movement as a whole would support it to the point of getting it verified by CGI analysts, then indeed we would be on our way to 'blowing this psy-op wide open'. |
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telecasterisation
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| schizophrenogenic element wrote: | | Totally. The thing is that you guys automatically discredit NPT because that is what you have been programmed to do. You were double bluffed and you are still fobbing it off. You are not giving it room to breathe nor opening up your mind to any other possibility than that lumpen idea about 'remote controlled planes'. If the movement as a whole would support it to the point of getting it verified by CGI analysts, then indeed we would be on our way to 'blowing this psy-op wide open'. |
So which do you prefer, those who hug the planes or those who don't know what hit the towers? |
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marky 54
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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TC you will only face the same problems in the mainstream as you are here, are you under the illusion the mainstream wont ask questions?
if you cannot cope with it here and disprove counter arguemets how you gonna manage out there? |
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schizophrenogenic element
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| marky 54 wrote: | TC you will only face the same problems in the mainstream as you are here, are you under the illusion the mainstream wont ask questions?
if you cannot cope with it here and disprove counter arguemets how you gonna manage out there? |
This is gonna be a * more easy to prove than waffling on about remote controlled planes and jet fuel melting steel. |
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schizophrenogenic element
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| telecasterisation wrote: | | schizophrenogenic element wrote: | | Totally. The thing is that you guys automatically discredit NPT because that is what you have been programmed to do. You were double bluffed and you are still fobbing it off. You are not giving it room to breathe nor opening up your mind to any other possibility than that lumpen idea about 'remote controlled planes'. If the movement as a whole would support it to the point of getting it verified by CGI analysts, then indeed we would be on our way to 'blowing this psy-op wide open'. |
So which do you prefer, those who hug the planes or those who don't know what hit the towers? |
Both groups are as daft as brushes. |
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Micpsi
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The commentator in the video makes many assertions based upon what it is possible in blue screen technology but he offers absolutely NO evidence that the TV footage shows such effects being used. His authoritative voice confidently tells you to believe what he is saying, but the visuals don't confirm in the least what he is claiming. It's yet another piece of vacuous flim-flam that masquerades as revelation of media deception.
Even if blue screen effects WERE discovered in downloadable 9/11 videos, that still would not prove they were present in the original TV coverage. How do we know the video posted here was the same as what was originally shown? We don't. Provenance cannot be established. For all we know, this could be a faked version of the genuine footage. Perhaps some of the videos claiming TV fakery/no planes are just footage faked by some disinformation agent in order to deceive dupes that download it from the internet into believing that the TV channels were faking their coverage. That way, it can then be argued that ALL footage is now totally unreliable - very convenient for any future investigation of 9/11. Or else claims by 9/11 truthers can then be easily debunked when the faked video footage is compared with the TV companies' originals.
Once again, Fred's video proves nothing. |
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Micpsi
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| schizophrenogenic element wrote: | | telecasterisation wrote: | | schizophrenogenic element wrote: | | Totally. The thing is that you guys automatically discredit NPT because that is what you have been programmed to do. You were double bluffed and you are still fobbing it off. You are not giving it room to breathe nor opening up your mind to any other possibility than that lumpen idea about 'remote controlled planes'. If the movement as a whole would support it to the point of getting it verified by CGI analysts, then indeed we would be on our way to 'blowing this psy-op wide open'. |
So which do you prefer, those who hug the planes or those who don't know what hit the towers? |
Both groups are as daft as brushes. |
I guess that goes for all the thousands of people who saw the planes crash into the towers. I know people who saw the second plane hit the South Tower. They told me about it. I guess they were having hallucinations! LOL! (sigh!) Really, you NPTers are as daft as a brush. |
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Craig W
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Micpsi wrote: | The commentator in the video makes many assertions based upon what it is possible in blue screen technology but he offers absolutely NO evidence that the TV footage shows such effects being used. His authoritative voice confidently tells you to believe what he is saying, but the visuals don't confirm in the least what he is claiming. It's yet another piece of vacuous flim-flam that masquerades as revelation of media deception.
Even if blue screen effects WERE discovered in downloadable 9/11 videos, that still would not prove they were present in the original TV coverage. How do we know the video posted here was the same as what was originally shown? We don't. Provenance cannot be established. For all we know, this could be a faked version of the genuine footage. Perhaps some of the videos claiming TV fakery/no planes are just footage faked by some disinformation agent in order to deceive dupes that download it from the internet into believing that the TV channels were faking their coverage. That way, it can then be argued that ALL footage is now totally unreliable - very convenient for any future investigation of 9/11. Or else claims by 9/11 truthers can then be easily debunked when the faked video footage is compared with the TV companies' originals.
Once again, Fred's video proves nothing. |
Exactly.
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