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Now thats funny!
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| John White wrote: | | Now thats funny! |
John, when the penny drops, when you see the light, will you promise to change your website name to 'Delusions'? |
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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911 researchers are gonna have to get themselves a far more powerful spotlight first
right now, everythings coming across rose-tinted
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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besides which, I know what LBC would say, and it would be very rude!
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John White
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Plane in:
Engine out
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The following image has been adjusted to allow both views of the WTC to share the same size ratio. The port engine has been copied and pasted, the sizes are dramatically different - it is not an engine.
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Ray Ubinger
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http://webfairy.org/slideshow/911whatzit
| telecasterisation wrote: | | There is only one possible explanation for there being no sunlight on the object |
That wasn't my question. My question was, how do you explain something that looks and acts like a shadow but is cast TOWARD the sun (Frames 143-154 onto the side of the truck),
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something that acts like the same "shadow" a few frames later (oriented in the same direction from the mystery object) but is comprised of WHITE light? (Frames 168-188 onto the second building from the left)
| Quote: | | As for 'count the spheres entering the right edge' - 'they' don't look anything like spheres, more like broken cloud and/or lens flare. |
Agreed; all that stuff in the upper right looks like natural window and dashboard reflections. The commentary isn't mine, it's Fonebone's. I believe he was unaware the footage came from inside a moving vehicle. .
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| John White wrote: | Aww! I just got left a pressie in my pm box:
| Quote: | From: schizophrenogenic element
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:47 pm
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You are one f***ing horrible c***, you are! One sick motherf***er!
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What on earth would make a person send such a message to a (more or less) complete stranger? Is it sheer existential frustration? Some sublimated thrillseeking?
I don't even send Bush or Bliar such messages. Well, not since I found out they could trace my IP in a twinkle.
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| chek wrote: | | John White wrote: | Aww! I just got left a pressie in my pm box:
| Quote: | From: schizophrenogenic element
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You are one f***ing horrible c***, you are! One sick motherf***er!
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What on earth would make a person send such a message to a (more or less) complete stranger? Is it sheer existential frustration? Some sublimated thrillseeking?
I don't even send Bush or Bliar such messages. Well, not since I found out they could trace my IP in a twinkle. |
'm going for reflexsive psyche stress due to threat of belief system failure
Don't forget: we can deny information we recieve but we can't unread/unhear it!
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| chek wrote: | | John White wrote: | Aww! I just got left a pressie in my pm box:
| Quote: | From: schizophrenogenic element
To: John White
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:47 pm
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You are one f***ing horrible c***, you are! One sick motherf***er!
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What on earth would make a person send such a message to a (more or less) complete stranger? Is it sheer existential frustration? Some sublimated thrillseeking?
I don't even send Bush or Bliar such messages. Well, not since I found out they could trace my IP in a twinkle. |
Hey Chek, still waiting for your comments on Fred's new video. You are conspicuous by your absense. |
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Ray Ubinger
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| telecasterisation wrote: | | The dimensions of the object are far too big to be an engine, the more I watch this, the crazier it appears. |
Even crazier exit footage is at
http://thewebfairy.com/911/saltergate/salterplane2.htm
Webfairy and I, with help from Nico Haupt, Marcus Icke and Jim Scott, laid out this visual argument that the Church-Murray debris was planted ahead of time, hidden behind scaffolding and construction tarp, and pulled out after the 2nd Hit:
http://911foreknowledge.com/debris
For starters, the yellow caution tape around that debris was already in place at 8:46, visible in the background of the 1st Hit pedestrian reaction shot filmed at the very same intersection
http://911foreknowledge.com/bravenewworld.htm
which WF calls Spook Corner. Rick Leventhal of Fox News also worked that very same intersection that morning.
There are NO witness reports to such debris actually LANDING, that we know of.
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Rogue infiltrated elements of FDNY were in on it, for propaganda purposes. |
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Ray Ubinger
You mean this;
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| schizophrenogenic element wrote: | | chek wrote: | | John White wrote: | Aww! I just got left a pressie in my pm box:
| Quote: | From: schizophrenogenic element
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:47 pm
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You are one f***ing horrible c***, you are! One sick motherf***er!
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What on earth would make a person send such a message to a (more or less) complete stranger? Is it sheer existential frustration? Some sublimated thrillseeking?
I don't even send Bush or Bliar such messages. Well, not since I found out they could trace my IP in a twinkle. |
Hey Chek, still waiting for your comments on Fred's new video. You are conspicuous by your absense. |
Fred's 'new' video?
I'll try to contain my excitement.
Any chance of a summary and link before I waste yet more of my lifespan on Fred's ... erm... creative endeavours?
Only I'm currently burning a DVD of Free in Japan from 1972 to watch when I return from visiting a relative in hospital and I know where my preferences for spending my limited time are leading me.
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New video? Is there an octopus in it?
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| Dogsmilk wrote: | | New video? Is there an octopus in it? |
Dogsmilk, you usually have a lot to say for yourself. How about commenting on Fred's new videos? |
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| Dogsmilk wrote: | | New video? Is there an octopus in it? |
I now simply refuse to look at a 9/11 video that doesn't include some form of sealife.
The one with the 767, lobster and mermaid is my absolute favourite. |
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| telecasterisation wrote: | | Dogsmilk wrote: | | New video? Is there an octopus in it? |
I now simply refuse to look at a 9/11 video that doesn't include some form of sealife.
The one with the 767, lobster and mermaid is my absolute favourite. |
Absolutely. However, to avoid the format becoming stale, perhaps a shift of emphasis towards primates might make a refreshing alternative? I could certainly go for a bonobo.
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| Dogsmilk wrote: | | I could certainly go for a bonobo. |
I've never much cared for Irish rock stars. |
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Partly showing Frame 144 of
http://webfairy.org/slideshow/911whatzit
| telecasterisation wrote: | You mean this;
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NO, I do not mean that. Sorry not to be clearer. Look farther to the right, about 3/4 of the truck length, at the bottom of the screen. See the dark rising dot, like a shadow of the object, matching the object's motion for a dozen consecutive frames (143-154), mostly upward and slightly rightward, until the projection-dot blends out of view into darker parts of the picture (I think I might still make it out in 155). But unlike a real shadow, this projection dot is cast TOWARD the sun, LEFTward of the object itself, in SOUTH-facing MORNING footage.
At Frame 158 the object rapidly "cloaks," switching from black to white-and-sky-blue. Shortly later, in Frames 168-188, it casts a projection-dot again, in the same direction, downard and leftward, except now the dot is comprised of WHITE light. Watch it on the second building from the left, again moving in sync with the object, this time mostly downward and slightly leftward through Frame 176, then suddenly upward while still leftward, through 188.
Tentative conclusion: Uncloaked orbs project black "shadows"; cloaked ones project white ones.
(See similar effects at this other Naudet excerpt:
http://webfairy.org/slideshow/blackbird/
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Back to the Truck Whatzit. Note that the black projection dot actually appears as early as Frame 46; it and the orb seem to dance a large loop pattern in sync, but half-offscreen, too close to the camera, not both simultaneously appearing until 92. 143-154 is where they're best seen moving together (and without camera wobble).
In Frames 197-204, the white dot reappears on the FIRST building at the left, moving down and left, but the orb itself is high offscreen at that time.
In 168-171 and 210-212 I detect droplet/vapor/exhaust trails.
Ray Ubinger
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Ray Ubinger
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| Ray Ubinger wrote: | http://webfairy.org/slideshow/911whatzit
In 168-171 and 210-212 I detect droplet/vapor/exhaust trails. |
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Also in Frames 278-281 of
http://webfairy.org/slideshow/blackbird/
shedding behind the orb which entered in Frame 273 from the left side of the top of the screen.
pps
Also on enhancement (by Brad M.) of the Watermark Whatzit, shot a moment after the Truck Whatzit, upon arriving at the WTC block:
http://911index.0catch.com/bird.html
In particular (IF you can get to these directly),
http://911index.0catch.com/_webimages/Untitled-bird-2-5.jpg
http://911index.0catch.com/_webimages/Untitled-bird-5-3.jpg
ppps
Watch that Watermark Whatzit become replaced by a moving-in-sync PAIR of shadow dots in the second clip at
http://911foreknowledge.com/rayswhatzits.htm
About 16 seconds in. About four seconds after the fire-vehicle red-flashing-light reflection (filmed from inside that moving vehicle) gives its biggest flash. About three seconds BEFORE the pair of parallel wires appear (along with the giant hundred-mile-an-hour bird shadow cast onto the open sky).
Middle vertical third of north face of WTC-1. Right (west) edge.
The shadow-dot pair enter leftward. Then they loop slightly up, then they begin going back rightward toward the edge they appeared from.
I submit that all this is clear footage, of persistent objects or energy-patterns, all filmed with professional equipment (the Naudets'). Not compression artifacts, not ghosting, not camera glitches, not lens dust, not sun flare, not windshield dirt. Yet exotic in its characteristics. Not birds, nor bugs, nor helicopters, nor debris. It is direct photographic evidence of not-publicly-known laws of physics.
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As a newcomer to this thread, could someone confirm that the source of this footage has been verified beyond reasonable doubt to be the unadulterated footage shot by the Naudets on 911?
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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I have pondered the Ray Ubinger question as to the hovering black dots and their possible explantion.
I simply have no clue as to what they might be - however, if they are a 'black op', they suck. The American tax payers' dollars have been wasted, the 'cloaking' technology needs a lot more work. To plonk those things in the sky where they can be seen and filmed, what were they thinking? |
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Craig W wrote: | | could someone confirm that the source of this footage has been verified beyond reasonable doubt to be the unadulterated footage shot by the Naudets on 911? |
I can quote the dvd clock time for any Naudet excerpt I've ever used, and you can obtain a copy of the dvd and cue it up for comparison. Satisfactory?
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Thanks, Ray. I trust you are a man of your word.
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