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gruts Major Poster
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Micpsi wrote: | schizophrenogenic element wrote: | Mark Gobell wrote: | So I read.
Any film making pedigree though ? |
Obviously they would need some form of 'pedigree' even if it is just one film.
Hhahaha. I find it impossible that anyone could seriously think they were making that fireman documentary at that time, filming at that time, it's a big joke.
John White believes it though. He also believes reptillians run the world, so go figure. |
Yeah. I guess the firemen were all CGI as well! LOL! |
anything is possible in Prole Art Threat's little fantasy world - you forgot to mention that their fire engine was probably a "cloaked missile" with a flotilla of "holographic orbs" following in its wake.... |
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gruts Major Poster
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ray Ubinger wrote: | >> You have actually watched the Naudet movie, yes?
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> [No answer.]
I'm waiting for this to get clarified before addressing you further, gruts.
Ray |
Hi Ray - sorry I missed that bit. I have a copy of the dvd that was released in the UK - but as I (and others) have said above, I think it requires a considerable leap of faith to watch it and come to the conclusion that the Naudets must have been hired by the perpetrators of 9/11 to film the first hit and consciously make a snuff movie about the attacks.
Do you have any evidence of contact between the Naudets and the perps?
I ask this because I had a look at your website and noticed that you make all kinds of unsubstantiated claims in additon to those made by Les, such as....
"It smells like they murdered the Staten Island FDNY Probie (Michael Gorumba) on 8/28. It smells like they murdered the FDNY Chaplain (Mychal Judge) and the brother of Battalion Chief Joseph Pfeifer (Lt. Kevin Pfeifer) on 9/11."
Let's start with Michael Gorumba....who are "they" - the Naudets? the FDNY? the illuminati?
And what evidence do you have that they murdered him? |
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Ray Ubinger Minor Poster
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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gruts wrote: | Ray Ubinger wrote: | You have actually watched the Naudet movie, yes? |
I have a copy of the dvd that was released in the UK |
Yes or No, please? |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: |
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apart from 911 the naudet brothers have not done anything else EVER
so YES IT WAS ALL STAGED
they are part of the problem
i looked all over the web and found no pre 911 stuff
so they are not renowned award winning filmakers
they are stooges _________________
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: |
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2 years between projects is not unreasonable, they may not have been world reknowned but it cant be said they had "done nothing before": so that does shoot Stelios down somewhat. Of course, that could be a cover story: and of course, even if it was their very first film, it doenst mean they couldnt have shot the footage they did: none of it proves anything one way or another: its simply adding and substracting factors from what we individually consider credible _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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It's just another in a long long list of the incredible events of 9/11. _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: |
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well we can hardly call them acclaimed filmakers
why would french filmakers who have done virtually zilch before be hired to do a documentary about the new york fire dept?
i am not suggesting anything about the footage here please note
i am merely asking the question as to has anyone checked them out.
Aparantly it says they filed a lawsuit against loose change.
Why would 2 unknown virtual novices be hired ahead of many thousands more experience filmakers? Why french too? to win french support for the attack on Iraq?
oh and where is this documentary?
Or did they just forget it and concentrate on 911 in the end? _________________
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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John White wrote: | 2 years between projects is not unreasonable, they may not have been world reknowned but it cant be said they had "done nothing before": so that does shoot Stelios down somewhat. Of course, that could be a cover story: and of course, even if it was their very first film, it doenst mean they couldnt have shot the footage they did: none of it proves anything one way or another: its simply adding and substracting factors from what we individually consider credible |
the first project they did was not released until January 20, 2004 after the 911 stuff.
It is a fly on the wall about boxers in harlem
i still dont see one camcorder documentary watching some boxers train qualifies them to be call famous award winning acclaimed.
911 is what has made them which means they have a vested interest in selling the lies
staged means in the right place at the right time
coincidence? _________________
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Ray Ubinger Minor Poster
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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We're supposed to believe that Jules Naudet was a FILM SCHOOL GRADUATE, AND a CREDITED CINEMATOGRAPHER on the mildly award-winning little 1999 documentary Hope, Gloves and Redemption ... BUT ALSO that the reason Jules Naudet went with Chief Pfeifer to film the Alleged Odor of Alleged Gas at Church & Lispenard at 8:30 on 9/11 was, according to narrator-perp-alleged-fireman James Hanlon (himself a PROFESSIONAL ACTOR WITH A TV RESUME GOING BACK TO 1995): "BASICALLY CAMERA PRACTICE."
The fact that these guys have done NO moviemaking since their big break YEARS ago should be recognized for the huge red flag that it is. See
http://tinyurl.com/2gfntv
aka
http://www.blogigo.co.uk/socialdemocracynow/The-incredible-vanishing-N audet-brothers/27/
Ray Ubinger
Durham NC USA
http://911foreknowledge.com
exposing the Naudet-FDNY snuff film since 2004 |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly.
I am not claiming the footage is fake. I am claiming the Nadet brothers are plants.
they have no track record
and no reason to have been there making the film
it is all a set up
My personal view is by picking french people it was an attempt to get franch to participate in the forthcoming war
instead france broke the fact that 911 was an inside job
the Naudet brothers are part of the propaganda machine and part of the 911 conspiracy.
They need to be investigated and exposed
actually i have just read the link above.
They are being investigated and they are scam artists possibly MOSSAD _________________
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gruts Major Poster
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Ray Ubinger wrote: | gruts wrote: | Ray Ubinger wrote: | You have actually watched the Naudet movie, yes? |
I have a copy of the dvd that was released in the UK |
Yes or No, please? |
try reading through the thread again....
btw - I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate that you have some evidence which actually links the naudets to the perps.
ditto for evidence that they murdered Michael Gorumba.
have you found any yet? |
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John Gault New Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: Naudet gatekeepers open UK outpost |
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My, my, what a brave group of truthlings we have here.
Have ANY of you performed a frame-by-frame analysis of the Naudet’s DVD before reaching your conclusions?
Easier just to parrot what you read/heard/ been told elsewhere?
The Naudet DVD is nothing more than a staged, scripted and computer-generated collection of lying propaganda created to help sell the Big Lie.
Ray, Les and others have highlighted some serious problems with this “documentary”. I will point out the physically impossible images which prove much of the video was created on a computer.
I challenge anyone who has: 1) a copy of the DVD, 2) a map of Manhattan, 3) a basic understanding of physics and 4) an understanding of the relationship between the position of the sun and the time of day to step up and “show us what you got”.
No games, no doublethink, no groupthink, no appeals to authority; just you, me and the images on the DVD.
Put up or shut up. |
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