Do we need guns?

[rik st albans]

Stop talking-we know we are right.

Nothing will change unless we ............please ;brainwash yourselves with V for Vendetta and DO SOMETHING!!

[festival of snickers]

every respecrtable englishman should own a gun as they did in 1775

is this song banned in blairs uk?

i love him so much!!

Call out the instigators
Because there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right

We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now

Lock up the streets and houses
Because there's something in the air
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right

We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together now

Hand out the arms and ammo
We're going to blast our way through here
We've got to get together sooner or later
Because the revolution's here, and you know it's right
And you know that it's right

We have got to get it together
We have got to get it together

http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/easyrider/somethingintheair.htm

[festival of snickers]

its ok -just take your haldol and youll be ok

[spiv]

Rik, we are right, yes indeed, we are absolutely right.... but we don't need guns. Remember that "the pen is mightier than the sword".

Getting the real 911 perpetrators brought to account, and the real truth out into the open may take years, but nevertheless will happen one day. Crimes last for a person's lifetime. Until then, write, discuss, disseminate, educate, enlighten, argue, but don't advocate weapons of any kind, under any circumstances. Weapons are for the war criminals Bush and Blair, who advocate illegal invasions of other countries and wholesale killing of innocent people. Their crimes also need indicting and punishing.

[ian neal]

As a point of principle the campaign has always been non-violent, just in case anyone is unsure.

'We' may be right, but unless 'we' are the overwhelming majority, any armed resistence would be entirely futile and counter-productive. Once we have over-whelming support, the game is up for the PTB any way. If a large majority of people support the movement for truth, all we have to do is remove our support from the system: general strike, peaceful direct action, drive slows round the country's motorways, tax refuseniks, war refuseniks, etc and the system would soon be brought to its knees.

[Divex]

What better excuse for a police state and branding truthers as terrorists than running around with guns as a rabble.This is what they would like!Thats why u were given V-For Vendetta to watch.


Remember u can always count on the mob.

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guns? v for vendetta? the movie i sort of like it but its odd i guess.. maybe its too violent

in the movie the people marched out in v costumes without guns -it seems like an anti gun movie saying you just need some swords

the uk people dont want guns there -they are brainwashed or thats just their opinion at this time

the uk cops and military are fairly reasonable not like the usa cops

usa has hired mexicans and illegals in military

usa isnt like uk

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The sequence of events during the ensuing shootout is disputed, with Weaver and Harris saying that the camoflauged Marshals fired first and did not identify themselves. The Marshals' version of events is they were fired on first after identifying themselves. In the ensuing exchange of gunfire, the dog was killed, Sam was fatally shot in the back and arm, and Harris shot and killed U.S. Marshal William Degan.

The next day, an FBI sniper named Lon Horiuchi shot Randy in the back while he, Harris, and Weaver's 16-year-old daughter were outside, attempting to visit the body of Sam Weaver, which was placed in a shed after being recovered the previous day. As the three ran back to the house, Horiuchi fired again, hitting Weaver's wife Vicki in the head as she held her infant daughter. Vicki Weaver collapsed on the floor, dying instantly with her bloody but uninjured daughter in her arms. Much later a robot vehicle approached the cabin and announced the presence of law enforcement. According to the Weavers, this was the first announcement of the source of the violence. Much controversy was later generated by the fact that, after the first day's events, the FBI had changed the rules of engagement; specifically, "deadly force could be used against any armed adult male if the shot could be taken without a child being injured."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Weaver#Ruby_Ridge

do you uk people have trash like this in the cop force?

[rik st albans]

[ian neal]

http://www.justice4jean.com/

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Horiuchi

, Horiuchi testified before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee's hearing on the Ruby Ridge shootings. He then followed legal advice and invoked his Fifth Amendment rights, limiting the ability of Idaho's prosecutorial team of Denise Woodbury and Stephen Yagman to build a criminal case against him.

In 1997, Horiuchi was charged in Boundary County, Idaho state court with involuntary manslaughter. Horiuchi removed the case to federal court,[citation needed] where the case was dismissed by U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge on May 14, 1998, who cited the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution which grants immunity to Federal officers acting in the scope of their employment. This decision was reversed by an en banc panel of the Ninth Circuit, which held that Horiuchi should stand trial.[4] However, shortly after the Circuit court rendered its decision, the prosecutor moved to drop the case, and the District court granted the motion on June 26, 2001.

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Military training for civilian unrest is not limited to Cooperative Nugget 97, but has been ongoing in various places in the U.S. over the past 3 years. On May 3, 1994, President Clinton signed Presidential Decision Directive 25, which describes how American troops will serve under foreign commanders (released only to top administration officials). On May 10, 1994 the million dollar question was popped via The Combat Arms Survey created by Lt. Cdr. Guy Cunningham, USN to U.S. Marines at the Twenty-nine Palms Marine Base in California. Question 46 asks if Marines would obey orders to fire on U.S. citizens who refuse or resist firearms confiscation by the U.S. government.

http://www.apfn.org/thewinds/1997/07/peace_keepers.html

[rik st albans]

So we need guns?

[festival of snickers]

usa ? or uk?
we got guns in usa or my fellow citizens do
men in trucks with gun racks drive by me-they need guns they need even more no doubt

lol

[Samantha J Fox]

Maybe the UK should just do a Ghandi on the US.

[festival of snickers]

ghandi!!didnt his descendants force sterilization on indians? or sort of coerce that?
im amercian indian

look up geronimo he fought the b****** for 40 years the Mexicans and the americans !!

he reminds me of moses wandering 40 years

lets all sing kum ba yah now !!

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[Busker]

It's an awful thought, but I can see the possibility of civil war in the UK if the country does not take a dramatic turn around and reclaim real democracy instead of this sham illusion that has been foisted on us for the past ten years. The government have removed so many "checks and balances" from our democratic processes that are meant to act like safety valves on a steam engine. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, innocent until proven guilty etc.

I do not believe I am alone in thinking that and as a result we have had mass confiscations of firearms (Firearms Amendment Act(s) No1 & No2), demonisation of licence and certificate holders as well as ever more restrictive regulations and laws relating to firearms. Even our Olympic team have to practice abroad or face up to ten years in prison for possession of a prohibited weapon.

Would I rise up and use firearms? I honestly cannot say until faced with a situation where I would need to consider that and hope I never find myself in having to do so.

[festival of snickers]

spain
civil war
fairly recently
cause:fascists vs ?

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The Spanish Civil War was a major conflict in Spain that started after an attempted coup d'état committed by parts of the army against the government of the Second Spanish Republic. The Civil War devastated Spain from July 17, 1936 to April 1, 1939, ending with the victory of the rebels and the founding of a dictatorship led by the Nationalist General Francisco Franco. The supporters of the Republic, or Republicans (republicanos), gained the support of the Soviet Union and Mexico, while the followers of the Rebellion, also called Nationals (nacionales), received the support of the major European Axis powers of Germany and Italy. The United States remained officially neutral, but sold airplanes to the Republic and gasoline to the Francisco Franco regime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War