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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: Radio - Exopolitics, the 9/11 movement and other weird stuff
Sandwiched cosily between a networked David Icke interview and hot on the heels on Stanton Friedman, Nick Begich and 9/11 UK's own Tony Gosling [probably much to his annoyance!] - this two hour chit chat covered the wider aspects of exopolitical thought.
Impact of networked media on exopolitics, European and US exopolitical strategy, bypassing formal media structures, definitions of disclosure and widening the exopolitical process, ufology and exopolitics, the framing of the Gary Mckinnon case, alien false flags as the ultimate synthetic terror, UK bases, whistle-blowers, relationship and influence of 9/11 activism, post disclosure structures and disclosure amnesty, 9/11 and FOIA requests, the shifting nature of the UFO phenomena, Mexico as a model for unmediated disclosure, formal CE5 processes, Mayan designs in crop circles, why disclosure is a a positive option, Lloyd Pye's safari park, notions of property, evolutionary bootstrapping, gnosticism, junk DNA, Tim Leary, exopolitics and the eschaton, deep politics.
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:37 am Post subject:
and.... another one. Webre is a long term friend of Carol Rosin. She was present at a 1975 meeting with GW Bush where the current middle east wars were planned and a fair bit more besides.
The Cosmic Trigger - Exopolitics UK Talk to Alfred Lambremont Webre
Alfred Webre will have people knocking furiously at his door when
planetary shifts become more obvious and the collective consciousness
needs a degree of guidance. He piles his vast experience as a
futurist, lawyer, ecologist, disaster preparedness expert and savy
political activist into the growing exopolitics movement.
In this audio session we get discuss a number of issues that interface
with the field including:
The interactive exopolitics scientific revolution, the exopolitics
model, 100th monkey syndrome, 9/11 and sequestered tech, paradigm
shifts and disclosure, the exopolitical meme as a re-evolution of
consciousness, Jim Sparks, Gary McKinnon and human rights, amnesty,
ETI prime directives and the problematic interfacing with
military/intel structures, hybrid and genetic 'outreach',
evolutionary bootstrapping and genetic upgrading, language, telepathy
and visual communication.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: The Coming False Flag Alien Invasion
Hi David,
as you are probably aware, I did not seek re-election to the Chair of the 9/11 Truth Campaign at the recent AGM. Although there were a number of factors in my decision, my primary motivation was based upon my desire to expand my campaigning far beyond the minutiae of what actually transpired on that fateful day. Whilst there is no doubt that the 9/11 Truth Campaign has a role to play, I have a strong sense that one of the objectives behind 9/11 was to keep people bogged down in the debate; thus taking their eye 'off the ball', while the away team prepare their next attack. The following post summarises some of the material from my presentation at the Leeds Truthfest, earlier this month.
It's a pity that some contributors get a bit shirty when broader issues are introduced; eventually they will start to 'join the dots' for themselves. Meanwhile, the onus is on those of us who are endeavouring to pre-empt the next event, to get the word out ... regardless of the dissent, from wherever it arises!
Thanks to Mick Meaney of www.rinf.com for the report on the Leeds Truthfest. It was a most enjoyable weekend; a joy and a pleasure to share quality time with so many like-minded people and to realise that an ever increasing number of people, from all walks of life, are starting to see through the charade of global politics.
Mick, I appreciate your comments on my presentation, 'The Occult Hand... 9/11 to 2012' but you omitted to mention one of the most important tenets of my talk, which is the increasing evidence to indicate that the ruling elite are building up to play their Trump Card, sometime within the next five years, in their quest to assume absolute global domination.
The events of 9/11 provided the excuse to effectively implement Martial Law in the USA, 7/7 has provided the same vehicle in the UK. However, to assume absolute global leadership those who manipulate the agenda now need a ' ... catastrophic and catalyzing event - like an Alien Invasion.'
Which is fundamentally what Ronald Reagan told the UN Assembly in 1988; see short clip below:
Part of the objective behind 9/11 was to keep people bogged down in asinine debate for years. This forum is a classic example of keeping enlightened individuals tied up in debating the minutiae over what did or did not occur on that fateful day. Of course, it is important that every effort is made to awaken the sleeping masses to the deception but it is (IMHO) even more important to raise the awareness of what is likely to be the next phase of False Flag Terror.
Remember that London was awarded the 2012 Olympics just one day prior to the false flag 7/7 London Bombings. The British public is now being drip fed the fact that the cost of staging these Olympics is escalating dramatically. Consider the possibility that a big chunk of the 'construction costs' associated with the Olympic venues may include incorporating the pyrotechnics for staging a spectacular false flag event, which is guaranteed to be broadcast 'live', right across the planet. The initial 'attack' on London would then be followed up by 'attacks' on selected targets right around the world. Creating the desired level of fear and panic for the NeoCon Cavalry to ride to the rescue. In return for saving the world from the nasty Aliens, and providing on-going 'protection' the NeoCon psychos would demand that every national government acknowledge the NeoCon right to global leadership and immediately agree to US military presence in their country.
If you think this sounds far-fetched, I would welcome the opportunity to bring The Occult Hand ... 9/11 to 2012 to your town. Once you have seen the the presentation, you can then decide for yourself. Of course, I hope that I am very wrong but I have a nasty feeling that preparations are already being made for this stunningly audacious piece of psychological warfare.
As Mick Meaney acknowledges, I am extremely positive as to the eventual prognosis for mankind. I do not believe that we will condemn ourselves to the world of perpetual war that the global elite wish to manifest ... but it is imperative that we make every effort to raise the individual & collective awareness. When the Hollywood inspired 'false flag' alien attack is perpetrated, let's admire the audacity and brilliance of the charade but let's also be sure that we let it be known that we are not fooled ... again!
Just as the events of 9/11, 7/7, Bali, etc, were all staged to demonise the Muslim community; consequently, staging such a false flag alien invasion then also serves to demonise any potential and/or prospective benign 'Alien contact'. Those (earthbound beings) who believe they are the rightful rulers of this planet will stop at nothing to keep control of their their fiefdom.
By the way, I claim no originality for this prediction. Werner Von Braun, amongst others, reportedly stated in 1974 that he foresaw a time when a False Flag Alien Invasion would be staged to achieve the 'Invisible Governments' goal of global domination. See video clip below:
As The Watcher rightly acknowledges, I always ask that those who come along to my talks do not take anything that I say at face value. My goal is simply to encourage people to undertake their own research and come to their own hypotheses.
In The Occult Hand ... From 9/11 to 2012, I also address the belief systems of those who consider themselves to be amongst the ruling elite and present the evidence to show why they believe they need to implement their plan for global domination by December 21st, 2012.
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There's an old...saying in Tennessee...I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says Fool me once...(3 second pause)... Shame on...(4 second pause)...Shame on you....(6 second pause)...Fool me...Can't get fooled again.
George W. Bush to Nashville, Tennessee audience, Sept. 17, 2002,
Consider the possibility that everything you thought you knew ... is totally wrong!
PM me if you are interested in bringing The Occult Hand ... 9/11 to 2012 to your area.
Re: Olympics... it certainly seems a likely candidate for some false flag event or catastrophe. The logo video has me thinking along 'energy' weapon lines but who knows. I won't be watching. Nor this Chinese one. The whole thing is a sick joke, and another example of these lunatics robbing our money.
Presumably those of you in and around the area will be keeping your eyes open as this event is built... so maybe something will come out.
Screening Consciousness and the Exopolitical Map to Hyperspace
The alien phenomena is full of contradictory and prankster like metaphors yet out of this complex field we can sometimes find a few signs on the map to point us out of the current planetary quagmire and into a more conscious way of being. Tim Leary's acronym of S.M.I².L.E. - Space Migration, Intelligence Increase and Life Extension is one such meme the exopolitical field can use as it widens its scope in the 21st century.
'The Keepers' could well be one of the most important books written and by accident or design it fits in with this approach. Like many accounts of people who have experienced profound contact with 'Otherness' Jim Sparks' story is one of hardship, confusion over an extended period of time and an eventual clarity as to what it all could mean... not only to Jim himself but to a human species destined to leave the gravity well of the planet.
In the first part of this chat with Jim, Exopolitics UK discuss his experiences with a range of simulation-shifting extra-terrestrials, how the human-alien interface may be functioning, possibilities for disclosure and black/covert structure amnesty, win-win models for integrating new technology into the public domain and why making the Amazonian rainforest a priority works on multiple exopolitical and environmental levels.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Radio - Exopolitics, the 9/11 movement and other weird s
I am not annoyed. Honest.
Should I be?
utopiated wrote:
Sandwiched cosily between a networked David Icke interview and hot on the heels on Stanton Friedman, Nick Begich and 9/11 UK's own Tony Gosling [probably much to his annoyance!] - this two hour chit chat covered the wider aspects of exopolitical thought.
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Radio - Exopolitics, the 9/11 movement and other weird s
TonyGosling wrote:
BTW where's the link to that original quote?
What the quote as in sig line quote?
I dunno now - I seem to recall it was after a post on the royal family but I may have that wrong. Do a search for "zomboid"... maybe you've erased it now which will make me look even more mind-controlled and zombie-like.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject:
Must have missed this thread.
I have to say that I was really into all about Steve Greer and the DP in weeks leading to fateful day, S11
That event took me away from focussing on that, and i became involved with 9/11 'truth'-------------------
Then some months back I returned to the DP, and catched up reading lots of new articles by Greer, his interviews, saw google vids of his, and Hellyers, etc etc etc
Then about 6 weeks back I decided to join up at forums, including this one asking the question eg., 'how does the Disclosure Project relate to 9/11?', my intention being that because the central message from DP was suppression of advanced technology, that surely that is AS if not more so important than '9/11'
I asked this guyy at a 'truth' forum this question. I had seen his video 'Open Complicity': and was impressed. he said that Greer and DP , it was all 'words words words' and not solid evidence. This kinda stopped me in my tracks. It suddenly dawned on me he was right. That altough they TALK about evidence, they dont show it!!
So I decided to take a closer look. I joined Above Top Secret and started a thread called 'Zooming Dr Steven Greer', and I learnt a lot there. I found out that Greer really is full of hot air. But isn't shy where money is concerened. he talks a lot about 'sharing' and 'Oneness' but try and chat with him via email and it is impossible. The POPE would be easier!
YET he charges the earth for his 'training' expeditions to become 'Ambassadors to the universe'
Also you hear stories of his dodgy behaviour etc. So it is not looking good. It feels like betrayal. Like yer being had.
Also the DP itself. What we have is a group of retired men who have had positions in the military industrial complex, and like the dude said they just talk words words words. It is easy to do that, and just as easy to be gullible.
NOW, I am not saying I don't think there is unexplianable phenomena. What I AM saying is beware of disinformation. Disinformers aint stupid, and they are porne to infiltrate all forms of things, including such exotic movements as DP which seemingly challenges the elite!
WHILST at ATS is where I also was to refamiliarise strongly with 911 research which is 'outside' the 'truthling' variety--This research involves Tv Trickery , use of exotic weapons on 9/11, and Orwellian Doublethink of 'truth' discourse. I noticed that there--at ATS--was much hostility shown to 911 researchers who wanted to explore about this. The moderators there came down heavy on it, and some of them, including me, have been banned.
I think it was Ian Crane above who claimed that the power-mongers planned 9/11 amongst other things, to keep peoples minds on that event sos they could bring on other events that will be designed to bring the net in tighter?
Well, I would like, rather, for us to be aware of the divide of 911 'truth' from 911 research, whereby the former seeks to insult, avoid, and censor evidence and theories from the latter. And IF we want to see any connection between possible advanced intelligence/technology and 9/11, then we cannot decide to keep in a box. 911 research is more open to the question of ETs, and advanced technology, both by other intelligence and covertly by MIC/elite! _________________ keep asking questions!
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject:
Hi zoomer,
A few of us have been trying to introduce many of the issues you mention above on this and other 9/11 forums for years now - it's only in this topic [thanks to a little common sense input by Ian Crane and Andrew J] that the posts have not been
1. moved/deleted
2. shouted down as "diversions"
I am not a fan of A.T.S. - we gave the acronym a new set of affiliations:
Assign Teenage Sceptics
..as this seem to be the modus operandi of the site [along with many other things I've been told by people who know a lot more than me!]. Anyway - I did actually see the thread you mention with re to the disclosure project. You make some good points and I'll respond here later tonight all being well.
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: Cosmic Trigger Radio - Jim Sparks interview #2
Exopolitics UK - Cosmic Trigger radio.
Following on from the first session - part 2 of the Jim Sparks interview is now ready.
You will need some background before this interview as it goes into some depth on what happened to this abductee as they were "trained" [initially under punishment/reward scenarios] to learn a whole new language system. This was not simply a new alphabet - it ultimately led to a system where "meaning becomes beheld" - in the words of Terence McKenna, essentially this is the human species' shift into a hyper-dimensional telepathic system. As part of this the human mind/body becomes a resonant transmitter/receiver for 'carrier wave' or synaesthetic information... or at least this is my theory.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:55 am Post subject:
zoomer wrote:
Then about 6 weeks back I decided to join up at forums, including this one asking the question eg., 'how does the Disclosure Project relate to 9/11?', my intention being that because the central message from DP was suppression of advanced technology, that surely that is AS if not more so important than '9/11'
I've found it strange just how hard it has been to get people who have supposedly 'seen the light' with regards synthetic/staged terror and covert operations by looking into the 9/11 issue to open this a little wider to issues of advanced tech, disclosure, exopolitics and the AFFA or alien false flag agenda.
I put some of this down to the 60 years of mocking misinformation from Roswell onwards - thus people are a bit embarrassed to go near the issue - although from my point of view, if you have seen through the veil of deception in one area it's all the more reason to look behind the curtain on others... and there is even more curtain on the ET cover-up issue than 9/11.
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I asked this guyy at a 'truth' forum this question. I had seen his video 'Open Complicity': and was impressed. he said that Greer and DP , it was all 'words words words' and not solid evidence. This kinda stopped me in my tracks. It suddenly dawned on me he was right. That altough they TALK about evidence, they dont show it!!
Yup - we've covered this elsewhere on this forum and others. This idea that the DP was 'all talk' is just absurd. Anyone that says this really hasn't a clue about just what the 2001 event meant and how ALL of our legal systems would be screwed without people giving testimony.
In addition, as I have said before, the 2001 Washington event was jammed for the first hour by the NSA. That's really a sign of something insignificant is it not?
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So I decided to take a closer look. I joined Above Top Secret and started a thread called 'Zooming Dr Steven Greer', and I learnt a lot there. I found out that Greer really is full of hot air. But isn't shy where money is concerened. he talks a lot about 'sharing' and 'Oneness' but try and chat with him via email and it is impossible. The POPE would be easier!
I saw this thread. I agree with some aspects but you have to put it in context with what he's done.
1. The guy essentially dropped a half million $$ salary from being a medic to do this stuff. The idea he is making MORE money from doing the stuff he is doing now probably is not true. Even if he is so what? He's not exactly investing it in deforestation is he?
2. As part of discovering an effective method for 'vectoring' UFOs down to groups of people - Greer really annoyed the military types. This is because it worked and it cut out the official route to ET contact. Due to this Greer and one assistant were targeted with advanced tech weaponry that gave them both rapid onset cancer. Most people don't believe such things but I have found this to be correct. His assistant died. Do you think this is all something that makes what he does 'worthless'?
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YET he charges the earth for his 'training' expeditions to become 'Ambassadors to the universe'
Also you hear stories of his dodgy behaviour etc. So it is not looking good. It feels like betrayal. Like yer being had.
This sounds like it's more to do with you than anything else. Just because Greer didn't reply to your emails doesn't mean he's working for the dark side.
In addition - if you don't want to pay for his courses... set up a group yourself. Much to the annoyance of CSETI probably, I have all their manuals for doing the field work and training. Ask me and I'll send them.
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Also the DP itself. What we have is a group of retired men who have had positions in the military industrial complex, and like the dude said they just talk words words words. It is easy to do that, and just as easy to be gullible.
They were old men [not all actually] because they had to wait for security clearances to end. Some didn't. However you look at it they risked a lot. This is not just talk.
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WHILST at ATS is where I also was to refamiliarise strongly with 911 research which is 'outside' the 'truthling' variety--This research involves Tv Trickery , use of exotic weapons on 9/11, and Orwellian Doublethink of 'truth' discourse. I noticed that there--at ATS--was much hostility shown to 911 researchers who wanted to explore about this. The moderators there came down heavy on it, and some of them, including me, have been banned.
But it's ATS... there is some discussion that it is the main focal point for intelligence control on this whole area on the internet... ie: it is run/steered by intel types. Makes sense to me.
NB: I've been banned twice. To not get banned you basically have to say nothing interesting
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I think it was Ian Crane above who claimed that the power-mongers planned 9/11 amongst other things, to keep peoples minds on that event sos they could bring on other events that will be designed to bring the net in tighter?
Well, I would like, rather, for us to be aware of the divide of 911 'truth' from 911 research, whereby the former seeks to insult, avoid, and censor evidence and theories from the latter. And IF we want to see any connection between possible advanced intelligence/technology and 9/11, then we cannot decide to keep in a box.
I think this is a good point - 9/11 research should be seen as seperate to any main 'truth' focus the 9/11 movement want. The research needs to be wide and include exopolitical and black projects and much more I could list. It is already obvious that the 9/11 thing, by staying within a narrow boundary, will die a death or end up going in silly loops. _________________ http://exopolitics.org.uk http://chemtrailsUK.net http://alienfalseflagagenda.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject:
Hey utopiated, Thanks for linking me to Groundzero media. They really do seem very opnminded, and have a diverse approach to exploration of wtf going on, which is VERY important
Did tyou really checkout my Zooming Dr Steven Greer fully though. Ity is interesting because i start off fairly neutral, and then it dawns on me. Ie., I WAS heroe worshipping him a bit before, and was relying on all that to solve the real mess we are in. You know the 'promise; of release of advanced technology, and return of abundance..............sounds great donnit???
In the thread we work out about how much he may be making a year. And it aint not MUCH!!
I reckoned he spnds MOST time in the gym. As he's a real muscle mary
One thing he dont do is bother speaking to the 'masses' via email. No, his poor starved assistant, 'Debbie' has to cope. And your lucky if you can get a sentence out of her
A real damning evidence that goes against Greer and the DP's reputation is when real scientists TRY and try to get some kind of communication going about collborating on REAL evidence of advanced techological experiments, and are met by a total brickwall. No interest is shown them, nor any respect at ALL by the disclosure project site
So, now I am VERY suspicious of him, etc
Also his new age cultic mumbo jumbo really irritates me. He as the meditation 'guru' passing on the initiatory titles of ambdassadors of the universe...........................It all stinks
The things he claims in his book Hidden Knowledge, with no evidence whatssoever to back it up _________________ keep asking questions!
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject:
(This thread dips and lurches a bit but is well worth continuing IMHO.)
Back to the scenario of an 'alien false-flag' event being very possibly & likely "the last card" to be played by our oppressors (Dr Carol Rosin quoting the words of the late Dr Wernher Von Braun) we have to nip that in the bud, just as surely as we (the 9/11 Truth movement) are, I trust and hope, collectively bent on preventing any prolongation of the wretched 'War on/of Terror' sparked by 9/11, + concomitant attacks on further countries.
This Saturday, 7/7/7, apart from the connotations with the tragic events in London on 7th July 2005, happens also to be the 60th anniversary of the Roswell Crash, namely the crash of an allegedly alien spacecraft at Roswell, N. Mexico, the remains of which including the bodies of its alien occupants, dead or dying, were rapidly removed from the scene and the whole event hushed up, witnesses silenced and a campaign of obfuscation initiated which has prevailed to this day – yet the folk-memory of this incident remains, hence hundreds of thousands will be converging on Roswell this weekend for the anniversary celebrations.
The Roswell anniversary is therefore a fitting moment & location for the for the launch of a new book documenting the research to date on what is in all probability the world’s first ET relic in the public domain, namely the STARCHILD SKULL – a 900 year-old anomalous skull found in Mexico in the early 20th century, on which Lloyd Pye, an ‘alternative’ anthropologist (who had already made his mark with a groundbreaking book refuting orthodox evolutionary theory entitled EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG) has been for the past few years painstakingly carrying out a programme of scientific analysis, within the limits of a tight personal budget unsubstantiated by funding from any relevant scientific institution.
Lloyd’s new book, ‘The Starchild Skull’, to be launched at Roswell this weekend, recounts his personal odyssey in taking on the research of a controversial relic and records the discoveries to date about the skull, which already suffice to prove that this piece of bone constitutes the remains of a being of superior intelligence to a human being and most likely not entirely of this planet, at least as we know it. The mainstream scientists and specialists on whom he called for help in analysing the skull tended to dismiss it out of embarrassment as some kind of human genetic deformity, but Lloyd pressed on, convinced that he had in his hands something unique and remarkable and deserving of every effort to understand what it was. The high point in the story is reached when a tiny fragment of the skull is viewed under an electron microscope, revealing a quite astonishing degree of inconsistency with the composition of other terrestrial higher primate bone and opening up a whole new set of questions about the physical characteristics of our nearest alien neighbours, which have yet to be answered.
Cutting to the chase, what the Starchild story shows, well ahead of an Independence Day-type alien invasion scenario being enacted for the nefarious political purposes of those who seek control of this planet, is that 'ET' exists but that it is no ‘aggressor’ or predator, rather, ET could be a source of help and support! The Starchild, aka ET clearly inspired devotion on the part of its human carer whose physical remains were found in death alongside it, the two intertwined in what can only be interpreted as a relationship of deep affection.
Apart from its biological interest therefore, the Starchild Skull demolishes the notion of our extraterrestrial neighbours as a potentially frightening and aggressive challenge to the human race. The messages being communicated to us via the Crop Circles that appear with increasing regularity likewise spell a desire to communicate with us benignly and ‘raise us higher’ rather than to threaten or dominate us. Our co-resident or visiting alien neighbours could constitute benign potential allies in the struggle to preserve our planet, a kind of covert 5th column in the resistance against those who view our habitat only as a resource to be exploited and controlled for their own selfish ends, never mind how much damage they do to its human and animal population in the pursuance of their agenda.
Fanciful stuff and too way out to be taken seriously! some might say, and what has this got to do with 9/11 Truth? and yet the Starchild skull and other skulls like it (there are many more such anomalous skulls in the Latin American region awaiting analysis, the Starchild is only the first in line) AND all the evidence of ancient, advanced civilisations, AND the crop-circles AND the UFOs that appear in the sky are as REAL and as much part of physical & political reality of our planet as the explosive charges laid inside the 3 Towers which went down on 9/11.
So in our quest for Truth we cannot ignore any of these signs and pointers, both to a nefarious terrestrial elite seeking dominance on this planet but also to the existence of a wider extraterrestrial confraternity of advanced beings desirous of helping steer the course of human life and history in a positive direction, if only we acknowledge they exist!
Now, thanks to the Starchild skull, we KNOW they exist!
So please, 9/11 truthseekers, open your minds a chink further - keep up with the 9/11 & related research but also keep up with the Exopolitical movement, read up on Lloyd Pye & the Starchild Project research, read Zecharia Sitchen and Graham Hancock and Richard Hoagland, join up more of the dots, look to the future!
The future of this planet and indeed victory over the perpetrators of the current ‘war on terror’ (themselves the terrorists!) depends on more and more of us waking up and beginning to see the Bigger Picture – and us humans as part of that Bigger Picture – which is as wide and as fascinating as the universe itself. _________________ Join the Truth Revolution!
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:37 am Post subject:
And what I am trying to say is: Be VERY VERY careful!!!
Because we should know that the MIC/elite are very into MINDCONTROL.
M I N D C O N T R O L
What do you think when you hear this term? Just curious.
I am encouraging that we really understand the history of this device they use, and its cutting edge now. Because the trap of mindcontrol is its being used on us when we may not even be aware.
Of course, you tell people this and they freak. because people dont want to think they are being controlled, etc. But surely LEARNING about it is very wise?
A big part of mindcontrol is beliving what people say without verification. Many new age beliefs are the most absurd beliefs, YET people believe them. WHY?
"So please, 9/11 truthseekers, open your minds a chink further - keep up with the 9/11 & related research but also keep up with the Exopolitical movement, read up on Lloyd Pye & the Starchild Project research, read Zecharia Sitchen and Graham Hancock and Richard Hoagland, join up more of the dots, look to the future! "
Not that sure about your other research sources you recommend--though I believe I have something on Hoagland--but Zacharia Sitchin's theories have been proven false. I am sure you realize the influence his theories have had on David Icke etc etc., so it's very important you checkout here:
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm
Above I also have told here that I have seen through Greer, and am not so gullible regarding the DP now. With hindsight I can see that my NEED to believe was the utter dread of our current situation. So I needed to believe Greer's assurances. But I really do not want to be gullible. I have been gullible in the past, and finding out leaves you feeling very betrayed.
So you have to be very aware of who is saying what and why.
Even though, I still am open to the evidences that very unexplainable phenomena has propbably happened, and many ordinary people have recorded it on photos, videos, and been witness.
And I do feel that these 'beings' are benevolvent.
And that the man made and driven covert technologies are NOT! Because I can see their world and it is most definately not benevolent. I dont need 'evidence', cause i can SEE and feel the evidence.
How do we know WHO is making the crop circles, if they are created from spacecrafts? Let me ask you that...... _________________ keep asking questions!
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject:
zoomer wrote:
Hey utopiated, Thanks for linking me to Groundzero media. They really do seem very opnminded, and have a diverse approach to exploration of wtf going on, which is VERY important
Certainly is important.
So is the new logo for the top of this site I see. PEACEing it together... get it?? PEICEing it... get it?
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Did tyou really checkout my Zooming Dr Steven Greer fully though.
It's been up several months has it not so I may have forgotten the last bit about where you worked out his cash flow. Thing is I tend to stick up for ppl in this area whatever cos I have never met a rich UFOlogist or whatever. This idea people do it to get rich is laughable. Leave that to people who write books like Dan Brown etc etc.
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I reckoned he spnds MOST time in the gym. As he's a real muscle mary
ROTFL - yup. I know just what you mean and am saying no more !
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One thing he dont do is bother speaking to the 'masses' via email. No, his poor starved assistant, 'Debbie' has to cope. And your lucky if you can get a sentence out of her
I've spoken to debbie - guess what over? I tried to join the CSETI yahoo group years ago and found out you had to pay. So a friend from Canada joined CSETI and grabbed a lot of their documents and vids and we put a few online. For this he got found out [someone on ATS informed them so I heard!] and he got thrown out! I saw nothing wrong in sharing some of the CSETI stuff - I thought that was the idea. I appreciate they need support but often you get that from giving away information.
Another gripe I had is that CSETI banned two ppl from Australia because they were representing the DP there BUT they thought the Billy Meier case was a valid one [as I do in may respects]. Greer decided that this would be a PR nightmare and I found out why - he thinks that supporting contactee cases that have met human-looking ETS is "bad" for the image of the field. I think it's the nordic racist thing... if you know this area you will know what I mean.
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The things he claims in his book Hidden Knowledge, with no evidence whatssoever to back it up
I quite liked that book - he says things no other person has said in this area and given what I wrote above in the other post I just can't dislike the guy.
I DO however have an issue with Greers claims about PLFs [programmed life forms] being produced in the UK from 1940 onwards... I don't see much evidence of this... not from that date anyway. There is the Peasemore/Barry King thing. But again he said in talks "check my book "hidden truth" for more on this and I got a copy express from the USA and there was all of two lines on that very issue - so i was not happy!!
Zoomer - send me an email to store or sign up at exopol UK if you want to help out with this type of stuff in our country. I will start doing the odd mail out soon with those that join.
Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 645 Location: UK Midlands
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject:
This is just one of many Lloyd Pye videos online.
It is also worth checking out his non-starchild presentations on evolution [what Lloyd calls intervention theory] as this of course ties in and I find his approach far more likely than many of the other debates between Darwinsim and creationism.
Cutting to the chase, what the Starchild story shows, well ahead of an Independence Day-type alien invasion scenario being enacted for the nefarious political purposes of those who seek control of this planet, is that 'ET' exists but that it is no ‘aggressor’ or predator, rather, ET could be a source of help and support! The Starchild, aka ET clearly inspired devotion on the part of its human carer whose physical remains were found in death alongside it, the two intertwined in what can only be interpreted as a relationship of deep affection.
It is my view that we are incapable of solving out problems ourselves on this planet. We're too far gone in many respects. There is some evidence [Z.S. theories and book aside] that this quagmire is not totally "our fault" but that we had our "aggression gene" turned up thousands of years ago. To me this makes sense. A lot of what we're doing now is trying to get out of that situation and it does look like the reason earth has had repeated and fairly benign intervention/support in recent decades is because of this process.
All this weird stuff about indigo children appears not to be deluded fantasy... as much as I resisted it for years thinking it was pretty naff - it seems to be a reality. Some sort of genetic bootstrapping is underway along with the hybrid program. _________________ http://exopolitics.org.uk http://chemtrailsUK.net http://alienfalseflagagenda.net
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