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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: 5 UK 'contractors' kidnapped Reply with quote

I often wonder what kind of people these contractors are. They are mercenaries (a far better and truer word. We know why neither governments nor the media now use it) who are prepared to take some serious personal risks for about 600 quid a day.....

......they are also, presumably, comfortable with the idea of roaming around in a foreign country shooting the its inhabitants.

I hope they are returned safe to their families (unlike so many of their victims) but it is hard work to feel much sympathy with them.

I suppose soldiers, like most of the population, swallow the camel that the killing of human beings by people whom the government have put into a uniform is OK.

How morally responsible are these individuals for following through and accepting the whole murderous trip?....who knows.

Please God the day will come when men will refuse, universally, to hand over their conscience to any authority at all.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they are mercenaries, they do their job simply for money. And their job often involves killing people: and killing the nominated people for money. I wouldn't do it! He who lives by the gun, usually dies by it! .
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wonder if there are stats for the numbers of mercaneries killed since 2003
i assume it would be kept quiet

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

err, lad I work with is in Iraq as a contractor at the moment. His job is to rebuild the infrastructure in Basra allowing clean water to be pumped to the hospital there. The majority of contractors out there are actually working on infrastructure, putting their lives at risk for above average (but not astronomical money).
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's face it the term contractor refers to someone employed to deliver a contract, so yes this term can be used for engineering contractors, but in this case they were security contractors which is polite jargon for mercenaries.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most soldiers make only just over a grand a month so when they see some guy stood buy a pipeline with a gun for a possible 600 quid a day.They tend to choose to do this when they get out rather than work for M&S as a security
guard wearing a silly american cop outfit.
Most soldiers are patriotic which is why they join,im not sayin there isnt any knobs but,the infantry and tankies havent got much goin for them when they leave,so 600 quid a day is dream job stuff.

yes i used to be a squaddie.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kc wrote:
err, lad I work with is in Iraq as a contractor at the moment. His job is to rebuild the infrastructure in Basra allowing clean water to be pumped to the hospital there. The majority of contractors out there are actually working on infrastructure, putting their lives at risk for above average (but not astronomical money).


Of course they care, thats why Iraq is so stable at the moment, get real man! Laughing the waters off because the us/uk turned it/bombed it off. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Private Military Companies (PMC's). A few of the kidnapped contractors worked for Garda

3D Global Solutions Inc
Aegis Defense Systems Ltd
AirScans Inc
AKE Group Ltd
Alpha Point Security
AMA Associates Ltd
ArmorGroup
Beni Tal
Black Hawk GeoServices
Blackwater Security Consulting
CACI
Centigon
Combat Support Associates (CSA)
Control Risks Group (CRG)
Corporate Warriors
Crescent Security Group
CSC
Cubic Corporation
Custer Battles
Defion Internacional
Dilligence LLC
DynCorp International
Eagle Aviation
Erinys International
Garda
Genric UK Ltd
Globe Risk Holdings
Greystone Ltd
Global Marine Security Systems Company
Group 4 Securicor
Halliburton
Hill & Associates
ICP Group
International Charter Incorporated of Oregon (ICI)
International Intelligence Ltd
International Peace Operations Association (IPOA)
ISI Iraq
L3 Titan Group
Meteoric Tactical Solutions
Meyer & Associates
Military Professional Resources, Inc (MPRI)
Northbridge Services Group Ltd
Olive Group
Optimal Solution Services Pty Ltd
Overseas Security & Strategic Information, Inc/Safenet
Overwatch Protective Solutions International
Praesidia
Raytheon
SCG International Risk
Sharp End International
Spartan Consulting Group
Steele Foundation
Sumer International Security
Top Cat Marine Security
Triple Canopy Inc
UK Defence Services Ltd
Vinnell Corporation
Wade-Boyd & Associates LLC


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_military_contractor
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

according to stop the war
there are 21,000 British private security contractors currently in Iraq.
Thay means there are triple the number of mercaneries than there are British troops.
Aparantly the private guys get paid 4 times what the troops get paid and that is one very big source of discontentment for our troops

It also means the war has been privatised,
yet another new labour policy i presume

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Iraq for Sale... Reply with quote

If anyone has any doubts about the money being made by private 'contractors' in Iraq, then the DVD "Iraq for Sale" will be an eye opener for you!!

http://iraqforsale.org

http://www.infodvds.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=5
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance of a one line summary of the youtube films you post, stelios? I have asked before. It would help us decide whether or not to watch it.

Thanks. Cool

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