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brian Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Can Annie or anyone else explain Rodriguez's testimony according to this transcript from a NIST Public Meeting in New York City – February 12, 2004?
If this is verbatim why did he not take the opportunity to relate his pre impact explosion claims? Why does he bolster the silly elevator fuel nonsense?
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"The fire, the ball of fire, for example, I was in the basement when the first plane hit the building. And at that moment, I thought it was an electrical generator that blew up at that moment. A person comes running into the office saying explosion, explosion, explosion. When I look at this
guy; has all his skin pulled off of his body. Hanging from the top of his fingertips like it was a glove. And I said, what happened? He said the elevators. What happened was the ball of fire went down with such a force down the elevator shaft on the 58th – freight elevator, the biggest
freight elevator that we have in the North Tower, it went out with such a force that it broke the cables. It went down, I think seven flights. The person survived because he was pulled from the B3 level. But this person, being in front of the doors waiting for the elevator, practically got his skin vaporized."
http://wtc.nist.gov/media/Public%20Transcript%20021204%20Final1_withli nks.pdf
Rodriguez is secon bottom of the Public Comment section |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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That's very interesting Brian
My belief is that Willie Rodriguez was not even there on 911.
According to WR he was there on 911 and went back to help with the rescue effort the day after.
In all the footage of him on his tours since 911 he seems in excellent health, whereas most of the others are now retired from work with serious respiratory illnesses etc.
I seriously think he is a victim of mind control, he is like a computer program that has only one track.
Can anybody who has seen him on the UK tour comment on the state of his visual health and was he using a respirator or a ventolin inhaler? |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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..for so was it written, that anything that doth not pay due homage to space beams, no planes and TV fakery was an abomination that musteth be destroyed.
Lo, for it offendeth the chosen Potato People of The Couch. And shouldst thou also have an IQ above the temperture of warm custard, watcheth outeth! for they will cometh also for thou.
But I wouldst liketh to see one of the Potato People who lurketh in the shadows stand up and telleth William to his face he's a liar who wasn't even there.
Oh Yeth. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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gareth Suspended
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Brian. The meeting you are referring to took place 5 months prior to the 911 Commission publishing it's report. see: http://www.9-11commission.gov
Perhaps William wasn't counting on his testimony being completely omitted from the official record? Taking into account the actual chronology of events and the circumstances of that meeting i think William spoke very well, as he always does. |
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daz Minor Poster
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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I know Twyford is 13th June and Liverpool is 3rd July, but when will all the dates be published? _________________ MerseyTruth |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Annie 9/11 Truth Organiser
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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The dates will be up on the calendar in a couple of days.
Regards
Annie _________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing - Edmund Burke.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem Americanam appellant - Tacitus Redactus. |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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So Annie......................has Willie Rodriguez ever said that 911 was an inside job?
Not much use to the movement is he if he can't say these few words? |
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Newspeak International Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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My take is WR could be an insider,regardless, the neocons will be totally exposed eventually,only for the NWO advocates to take control in the guise of the UN and NATO to do the appropriate continuing culling of humanity.
Old money Europe, the "EU" is the driver to what's going on in the world. |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: |
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plane son on 911 wrote: | So Annie......................has Willie Rodriguez ever said that 911 was an inside job?
Not much use to the movement is he if he can't say these few words? |
Are you going to answer this question Annie?
Oh and why your there perhaps you could explain why Willie Rodriguez is in such good health after breathing in all that toxic dust? |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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brian wrote: | Can Annie or anyone else explain Rodriguez's testimony according to this transcript from a NIST Public Meeting in New York City – February 12, 2004?
If this is verbatim why did he not take the opportunity to relate his pre impact explosion claims? Why does he bolster the silly elevator fuel nonsense?
Extract -
"The fire, the ball of fire, for example, I was in the basement when the first plane hit the building. And at that moment, I thought it was an electrical generator that blew up at that moment. A person comes running into the office saying explosion, explosion, explosion. When I look at this
guy; has all his skin pulled off of his body. Hanging from the top of his fingertips like it was a glove. And I said, what happened? He said the elevators. What happened was the ball of fire went down with such a force down the elevator shaft on the 58th – freight elevator, the biggest
freight elevator that we have in the North Tower, it went out with such a force that it broke the cables. It went down, I think seven flights. The person survived because he was pulled from the B3 level. But this person, being in front of the doors waiting for the elevator, practically got his skin vaporized."
http://wtc.nist.gov/media/Public%20Transcript%20021204%20Final1_withli nks.pdf
Rodriguez is secon bottom of the Public Comment section |
Or maybe Annie you can answer the original question on this thread that was directed at you by Brian? |
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spiv Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: Ask him.. |
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Plane old son, as I stated a few days ago elsewhere on this website, why don't you go along to one of William's talks to be held shortly and ask him? He is in Cornwall on 24th June, if that is any help.
Ask him, not us, as we cannot bear witness to his testimony. Perhaps it will dawn on you why no-one here can answer your various silly questions, William is the only one who can. Or perhaps you haven't the guts to face him and ask? If that is the case, then just fark off.
Savvy old pal?? |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Ask him.. |
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spiv wrote: | Plane old son, as I stated a few days ago elsewhere on this website, why don't you go along to one of William's talks to be held shortly and ask him? He is in Cornwall on 24th June, if that is any help.
Ask him, not us, as we cannot bear witness to his testimony. Perhaps it will dawn on you why no-one here can answer your various silly questions, William is the only one who can. Or perhaps you haven't the guts to face him and ask? If that is the case, then just fark off.
Savvy old pal?? |
Because he will not do a questions and answers session as Annie confirms |
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Annie 9/11 Truth Organiser
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I have not answered before because, strange to say, I don't spend my life on this forum.
Scubadiver is quite right, Plane son, come and hear from yourself what William has to say. And while he doesn't like doing a formal Q & A session after his talk, during which he relives the events of that day over and over again and is consequently quite drained at the end, he's OK to chat informally and answer questions face to face with people. So that would be an excellent chance for you to meet him.
As to the state of his health, again I've said this before. William does indeed suffered health problems as a consequence of 911. _________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing - Edmund Burke.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem Americanam appellant - Tacitus Redactus. |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Annie wrote: | I have not answered before because, strange to say, I don't spend my life on this forum.
Scubadiver is quite right, Plane son, come and hear from yourself what William has to say. And while he doesn't like doing a formal Q & A session after his talk, during which he relives the events of that day over and over again and is consequently quite drained at the end, he's OK to chat informally and answer questions face to face with people. So that would be an excellent chance for you to meet him.
As to the state of his health, again I've said this before. William does indeed suffered health problems as a consequence of 911. |
So tell us about the health problems that you say he has. He doesn't appear to have any problems with his breathing which would be the most likely result of breathing in toxic dust.
Answer the question Annie |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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plane son on 911 wrote: |
So tell us about the health problems that you say he has. He doesn't appear to have any problems with his breathing which would be the most likely result of breathing in toxic dust.
Answer the question Annie |
What is it with your comprehension faculties PoS911?
You've been advised more than a few times to ask WR directly if you really want to know so badly.
Don't forget to mention that you and your adopted cult also think he's a liar who wasn't even there either.
Otherwise you'd just appear to be a cowardly PoS, wouldn't you? _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Annie please answer the question about WR health problems |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Annie please answer the question |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Ok Annie let me make this easy for you
You say that WR has health problems resulting from the dust at 911
How did you find this out?
Was it
1. You observed health problems directly when you saw him, if so what were they?
2. WR told you he had health problems, if so what did he say they were?
3. Somebody else told you he had health problems, if so who told you and what were they? |
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catfish Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: |
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plane son on 911 wrote: | Annie please answer the question |
Annie said (just a few posts up)
"William does indeed suffered (sic) health problems as a consequence of 911"
hope that helps
love
catfishes _________________ Govern : To control
Ment : The mind |
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Annie 9/11 Truth Organiser
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Plane son
He both told me and I observed health problems. However, I'm hardly going to discuss the details of someone's health on a public forum.
How would you like it if I started discussing your medical record with all and sundry? If you want to question him about his health, come to a meeting and do so. _________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing - Edmund Burke.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem Americanam appellant - Tacitus Redactus. |
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Annie 9/11 Truth Organiser
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:11 am Post subject: |
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On a more constructive note, I've posted the details of William's tour in the Calendar.
Regards
Annie _________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing - Edmund Burke.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem Americanam appellant - Tacitus Redactus. |
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plane son on 911 Minor Poster
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Annie wrote: | Plane son
He both told me and I observed health problems. However, I'm hardly going to discuss the details of someone's health on a public forum.
How would you like it if I started discussing your medical record with all and sundry? If you want to question him about his health, come to a meeting and do so. |
So what did you observe was up with his health when I have it on good authority from someone who has attanded one of his meetings that he appeared in very good health and did not have any breathing difficulties.
I mean virtually all the ground zero rescue workers have damaged respiratory fuction but he doesn't, why is this? Maybe he was never there |
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Plane son,
As you should know, the people who are suffering extreme health problems are those who worked on the ground zero site for weeks after the event, and lived and worked in the immediate area, and so were exposed every day to it.
Even all of them have not had health problems.
WR has had some health problems from the sound of it, from being there for a couple of days.
I am losing patience for people whoes ONLY INTENT is to damage this movement; they are coordinated and attack everyone who has had a possitive effect on the 9/11 Truth Movement while wildly demanding everyone accept any theory which would make us a laughing stock. _________________
Peace and Truth |
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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plane son on 911 wrote: | So Annie......................has Willie Rodriguez ever said that 911 was an inside job?
Not much use to the movement is he if he can't say these few words? |
what use are you to the movement plane son? _________________ www.myspace.com/theelephantintheroom |
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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plane son on 911 wrote: | Annie wrote: | Plane son
He both told me and I observed health problems. However, I'm hardly going to discuss the details of someone's health on a public forum.
How would you like it if I started discussing your medical record with all and sundry? If you want to question him about his health, come to a meeting and do so. |
So what did you observe was up with his health when I have it on good authority from someone who has attanded one of his meetings that he appeared in very good health and did not have any breathing difficulties.
I mean virtually all the ground zero rescue workers have damaged respiratory fuction but he doesn't, why is this? Maybe he was never there |
2 points
Appeared in v good health does not necessarily mean that he was? Appearances can be deceptive
Are there any statistics on the health of people survived 9/11 who had Willy's level of exposure? |
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Annie 9/11 Truth Organiser
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ian
Not sure about the exact stats, but even the New Statesman this week (!) has a big article about the impact of 911 on New Yorkers' health, and how key workers were lied to about the safety issues.
Regards
Annie _________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing - Edmund Burke.
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Annie 9/11 Truth Organiser
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Plane son
For the last time - if you want to ask William personal questions, come and ask him yourself.
Now put up or shut up. _________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing - Edmund Burke.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem Americanam appellant - Tacitus Redactus. |
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