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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Snowygrouch=Hijackers & LIHOP the most likely scenario Reply with quote

I listened to the James Whale show the other night when Snowygrouch confirmed to James Whale that hijackers and LIHOP was the most likely scenario

So please tell us Snowy why you think this is the most likely scenario?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: Snowygrouch=Hijackers & LIHOP the most likely scenar Reply with quote

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I listened to the James Whale show the other night when Snowygrouch confirmed to James Whale that hijackers and LIHOP was the most likely scenario

So please tell us Snowy why you think this is the most likely scenario?


Ah good old PoS911/TWAT3.

As ever, being somebody else's (not very) useful idiot.

Still, at least you know your place.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear this gets better and better doesnt it!

Why dont you just start loads of posts everywhere with "I hate planes" as the title?

Or perhaps "I hate anyone who forgets to talk about lizards"

Tell you what...now that we all know who you are I`ve suddenly realised I`ve had all these conversations with you before about 100 times..

Cheerio

(PS..If you dont like it get on the radio yourself....lazy sod.)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So tell us why you think there were hijackers?, I'm sure there are many on this forum who would like to know
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasnt on any of the planes that day....so I cant be sure EITHER way.

More to the point NEITHER WERE YOU.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowygrouch wrote:
I wasnt on any of the planes that day....so I cant be sure EITHER way.

More to the point NEITHER WERE YOU.

C.



You said it was the most likely scenario

How have you come to this conclusion which you told to the audience of Talk Sport

It's a simple question, stop evading it
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't hear the programme

Have you got the exact quote or are you putting words in people's mouths? Given SG's other work I would be surprised if this does reflect his views accurately
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SG simply kept it simple to appeal to a maximum bredth of the audience, he agreed it was likley the attacks were allowed to happen (which, even in a MIHOP scenario, they were) and also desribed it as highly probable when Whale asked if he thought the buildings were set for demolition.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian neal wrote:
I didn't hear the programme

Have you got the exact quote or are you putting words in people's mouths? Given SG's other work I would be surprised if this does reflect his views accurately


Hi Ian

James Whale said

So it was hijackers and they allowed it to happen.

SG said

Yes that's the most likely scenario

He doesn't deny saying it
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Calum was speaking on behalf of the campaign. The campaign constitution says no theories are to be presented to the media, only the call for further investigation.

It's an achievement which should be supported.

Or would you prefer if the campaign was not mentioned at all on the largest commercial radio station in the UK?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: You say LIHOPATO I say MIHOPATO Reply with quote

Snowy is a very clever guy and I always listen to his opinions but for me the LIHOP scenario is even more dangerous than the MIHOP scenario and could easily have resulted in an even bigger disaster. The first plane on the way to New York flew over a nuclear power station and for me this is a far more high risk target for so-called fanatic terrorists intent on killing as many people as possible and ruining america than hitting the WTC. How could the government know for sure the terrorists would not deviate from the plan and hit the nuclear power station instead? Answer is they couldn't.

There is no evidence at least at the moment that any of the first two planes were tailed and so it would seem there is nothing the government could have done to stop the terrorists changing their target at the last minute. In my opinion the people responsible for 911 would need to have total control over the operation and that is why I subscribe (at the moment at least!) to 911 being a MIHOP scenario as the LIHOP scenario would have been a total lottery.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear All,
Due to various B**S***T comments by pretty much one guy I have decided to clarify the issue....

1: I am advertising a talk in which an engineer will be discussing why the Towers must have been demolished.

2: This makes it PRETTY OBVIOUS what the theme is going to be.....re LIHOP or MIHOP.

3: LIHOP and MIHOP are both ridiculous descriptions of 9/11 since as soon as you include WTC7 you have active involvement -hence MIHOP-. the LIHOP position IS MIHOP....the two are the same thing with minor arguments about if you include the towers being blown up and shooting down F93 and Anthrax etc....

4: When you are on LIVE NATIONAL RADIO over the phone you have ONE SECOND to react to questions being fired at you. Now....either I say "yes CIA did it all" and then get asked about 10 more questions I cannot possibly answer accurately......OR I make a comment that keeps things air tight and still gives us the mandate for a new enquiry with complicity....

5: If I am on national radio with 1million + listeners and perhaps 4 minuites to make a point quite frankly YES I AM going to say that

QUOTE "at the very least"....the most likley scenario is that the CIA knew all along and gave a helping hand.

It was the right move; end of story.

END OF STORY.

No go and do something useful instead of behaving like a puppy who`s lost his favourite squidgy toy.

C.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calum,

Don't even waste your time replying to these scumbags. If I were a '9/11 researcher' and jumped to conclusions the way they do, I would have to say they were shills. Luckily for them I don't jump to such conclusions.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still waiting to hear Snowygrouch explain why

Terrorists & LIHOP is the most likely scenario

So you actually believe Bin Laden and his merry men did it?

I thought that people who support this idea were supposed to be banished to critics corner

Do your job moderators
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"moderators do your job"

Couldn`t agree more.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do your job moderators


Coming from the person who makes a post like this in the 7/7 section? Good one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plane son on 911 wrote:
I'm still waiting to hear Snowygrouch explain why

Terrorists & LIHOP is the most likely scenario

So you actually believe Bin Laden and his merry men did it?

I thought that people who support this idea were supposed to be banished to critics corner

Do your job moderators


There are (and always have been) many people who believe hijackers were involved and that they were allowed to proceed (NORAD stand down, exercises etc). These people are still calling for a new investigation to find out what happened and are entitled to their beliefs. Therefore they dont need to be banished to critics corner, nice try though.

They may also believe explosives brought the towers down (MIHOP) or that possibly the planes were remote controlled (but still had patsy hijackers onboard). Some may believe that the main OP was LIHOP with a small black op minority working on MIHOP (remote control, explosives etc)

And many other permutations in every area. The divisions are not as clearly drawn as some may wish them to be... which is why imo LIHOP/MIHOP is deliberately engineered divisive hauptian nonsense.
Divide and conquer, now where have i heard that idea before? hmmm

Not everyone is so sure they know 100% truth as you and you fellow errrrm ?'researchers'?.

Why are the majority of ?'researchers'? soooo addicted to creating soap opera style dramas at every turn and trying to seperate people into 'camps'?
Dismissing any evidence that doesnt fit the NPT to the point of personally attacking fellow truthers left, right and centre, mostly with the most pathetic of evidence?
Coronation Street not enough for you? Complexities of reality a bit much to deal with? Or is there some other reason?

Please proceed to the hinning corner to receive your prize.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've moved it to Critics' Corner.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowygrouch wrote:
"moderators do your job"

Couldn`t agree more.


What are you suggesting?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I would just like Snowygrouch to tell us why hijackers is the most likely scenario as he stated on the James Whale show which he has so far failed to do.

If he fooked up on the show then he could just say so.

If he really believes what he said then tell us why
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has given you his explanation. Stop badgering the guy and get a life is my humble suggestion.
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