And while about the G8, world government and the Bilderberg Group, let's not forget Bilderberg's sister club, the Rockefeller-funded Trilateral Commission. While European conspiraloons tend to focus, quite understandably, on Bilderberg the Trilats are very rarely mentioned.
Why is this so, especially when it is the Bilderbergers who are the more secretive of the two?
Bilderberg was founded, in the early 'fifties, as essentially an Atlanticist group meant to bring together capital's big business interests in Europe and North America. At the time it was feared there was a real danger that western European countries might adopt a neutralist outlook and, in consequence, be pulled into the hegemony of the Soviet Union. Hence, it was natural for the great and the good in both Europe and North America to conspire together in exclusive 'private clubs' like Bilderberg to prevent that from happening and to keep democracy (ie western capitalism) alive.
It was through no accident then, that the group gets its name from the Hotel de Bilderberg in Oosterbeek, Holland where it was founded with the late Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands as its figurehead.
The Trilateral Commission sprang from the Bilderbergers when one of its principal members, Esso or Standard Oil's David Rockefeller came into conflict with his fellows over whether to include Japan in the club. To introduce an Asian economic power into what was a club of rich Caucasians, it appears, was simply not on!
So Rockefeller funded and set up the New York-based Trilateral Commission in 1973 with Zbigniew Brzezinski as its intellectual architect. Significantly, its inaugural meeting was held in Tokyo.
The Trilateral Commission has a strong working relationship with the Council on Foreign Relations, itself the sister group of the UK-based Royal Institute of International Affairs (Chatham House). It is divided into three regional sectors, North America, Europe and Asia. Many of its members are also Bilderbergers with the same mutual interests for the development of globalization, the so-called economics of 'neo-liberalism' including wholesale privatization of anything that moves, the new world order and corporate capitalist totalitarianism.
When conspiraloons refer to the mysterious Illuminati it's easy enough to dismiss them as fanciful conspiracy nuts. The Illuminati appear to have existed in past centuries. The head of the Seventeenth Century Order of Freemasons, the Duke of Brunswick, once accused them of having infiltrated masonry using black magic, mesmerism and the art of suggestion to program victims.
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“I have been convinced that we, as an Order, have come under the power of some very evil occult Order, profoundly versed in science, both occult and otherwise, though not infallible, their method being BLACK MAGIC, that is to say, electro-magnetic power, hypnotism and powerful suggestion. We are convinced that the Order is being controlled by some Sun Order, after the nature of the Illuminati, if not by that Order itself.”
Whether or not the Illuminati still exist in name or in some other form, such as the masons, is an interesting question. But what is clear enough is that organizations like Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission not only fit the conspiratorial description given to the mysterious Illuminati but, in the more prosaic light of day, that it is they who actually deal with the nuts and bolts of manifesting the new, totalitarian world order.
So, to avoid being dismissed as a conspiracy nut or a conspiraloon (a term proudly used by blogger, Stef Zucconi, in the face of supercilious sniggering from the MSM's whores) it makes eminent sense for activists to focus on groups such as Bilderberg, the Trilats and the CFR as the obvious conspirators whose history is there for anyone who cares to research it to see.
Anti-globalization activists are advised, therefore, always to refer to Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission in conjunction as complementary 'private clubs' behind the G8.
For these are REAL organizations whose raison d'etre is an ongoing conspiracy. The mainstream media dares not mention them because it would be more than its jobs are worth. The MSM work to promote them. Hence their conspiracy of silence about the conspirators.
But if you, too, are a conspiraloon who likes to do his or her own research I would recommend you to do a search for the "Trilateral Commission" using your searcher to find its website and reference in Wikipedia and so on.
Bilderberg was founded, in the early 'fifties, as essentially an Atlanticist group meant to bring together capital's big business interests in Europe and North America. At the time it was feared there was a real danger that western European countries might adopt a neutralist outlook and, in consequence, be pulled into the hegemony of the Soviet Union. Hence, it was natural for the great and the good in both Europe and North America to conspire together in exclusive 'private clubs' like Bilderberg to prevent that from happening and to keep democracy (ie western capitalism) alive.
I think that the Soviet Union and 'big business' were playing the public all along. Same puppeteers. Hence this stated reason for Bilderberg would be a smokescreen. I wonder if the Bilderberg group is not the 'secret' group we are meant to get intrigued by, as opposed to the groups we never hear about. _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject:
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I wonder if the Bilderberg group is not the 'secret' group we are meant to get intrigued by, as opposed to the groups we never hear about.
Right! Just what I've been thinking myself. By keeping all the anti-globalists and 'conspiracy theorists' obsessed about the Bilderbergers the rest of the conspirators are off the hook.
But I fear it's also a case of complacency on the part of the anti-globalist investigators. Most of them are just badly informed.
In Europe, at least, the conspiracy of mainstream media silence about the Trilats is well nigh 100%.
Not so in the US where there are anti-Trilateralist interest groups among the great and the good who use their own media to attack them.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject:
When Bilderberg got going the Trilateral was a 1970s after thought. A response to nations grumbling 'why can't we come!' A sort of outer circle to keep Australasia, Malaysia and other Westernised non NATO countries, particularly the Japanese happy.
It follows in Bilderberg's shirt tails which is why it doesn't get so much attention. Essentially it is more of a PR exercise than a decision making forum. It has a rather dry website which Bilderberg, unfortunately doesn't.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject:
It may be an afterthought as you describe it, formed by Rockefeller after Bilderberg refused to let the Japanese join.
But it certainly isn't just a dry, debating chamber with a membership that covers all sectors of the ruling classes including the media and the military.
If it is ineffective why do you think the mainstream media -particularly in Europe- treat it with the same secrecy it does Bilderberg?
Just because it's less secretive and has a website (so does the neocon Henry Jackson Society and the PNAC) doesn't mean it isn't any the less effective. Nor should it be ignored. To do so let's it off the hook and we do a disservice to society by ignoring it. The question that conspiracy freaks must ask themselves is: are they more interested in organizations because of their secrecy, hence collector value like rare trains are to train spotters, or for the destructive, anti-democratic effect they have on society?
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject:
There appears to be a secret web of interlinked groups, Bilderberg, CFR, Trilateral Commission perhaps being the leading organisations within it, but extending into other secret societies such as freemasons, Bohemian Grove, Alpha Beta Kappa etc.
Many of these groups are effectively fraternities, places where men go to make plans about how to exert their control, particularly control over women and children. To me it seems like an extension of the Old Boy Network, in the UK fed by men who have attended public schools or top universities with each other.
I would like to know whether women ever attend Bilderberg/Trilat/CFR etc - Thatcher, Merkel perhaps? Women are certainly excluded from many secret societies and so we get male bonding and men getting up to mischief in terms of exerting their power free from the nuturing/caring influence of women. Men can exert great power by digging up dirt on people (we all have stuff in our lives we would rather not be made public) and blackmailing those who show any disinclination to conform, while bribing with offers of promotion, business, money, sex, those whom they want to cultivate as stalwarts of the old boys club.
Then there are rumours of men being first seduced into paedophile rings and then blackmailed about it to ensure their compliance. What evidence is there of this? It is alleged that the Soham muders and the Dunblane school massacre were associated with paedophile rings. Where would I find evidence on that?
Also, in Marxist terms, the Illuminati represent the upper echelons of the capitalist class who Marx maintained would always excercise power in their own perceived self-interest and never relinquish it without being forced to do so. For that reason I find it odd that seasoned Marxists like Tariq Ali, Noam Chomsky etc dismiss the idea that 9/11 could have been an inside job. Nevertheless I observe that the use of the term "illuminati" tends to make most left-wingers reach for the garlic and crucifix.
So if the "illuminati" and their acolytes are such an all-male club, it strikes me that we should be turning to women to oppose them. Nevertheless, most people in the 9/11 truth movement are male.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject:
Maybe Tony Gosling, whose excellent website and forum are very helpful, is by nature more concerned with exposing secret organizations? That would be normal for journalist exposés.
But it isn't enough to expose: it's important to go on and campaign against what has been exposed. In regard to Bilderberg, it's just not good enough to focus on one sector of the leading NWO groups and to ignore the others.
Bilderberg and the Trilats are practically one and the same. That is why they should be named together. To mention one and not the other lets the latter off the hook and, effectively, disinforms the public. I am not suggesting that Tony intends to do that, just that this is what will result with obsessively going on with just one part of the problem.
Yes, there are other organizations too. But these two seem to be at the top of the pile, dealing in a very practical way with the nuts and bolts of manifesting their conspiracy by liaising so incestuously with governments.
Secret societies wax and wane over the centuries - IMO all are infiltrated/set-up/controlled by the same elite extended family.
Look at who are in charge of food, media, money. There's you answer. That is the top group. _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject:
I agree, Rodin, but we are talking about two of the biggest here. What concerns me is that while anti-globalist activists focus on one, ie Bilderberg, they're ignoring the other, ie the Trilats.
The effect of that is not only to let the latter off the hook but, in effect, to keep others ignorant of the other facet of the globalist, corporate capitalist conspiracy.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:58 am Post subject:
Speaking of powerful and secret societies I had the pleasure to watch this interesting video presentation from Patrick Mooney of the Institute of Unlearning:
In 2004, National Geographic published this photo of a 1915 Cremation of Care ritual taken by Gabriel Moulin and included a caption below the photo explaining the picture. “To purge himself of worldly concerns, a member of the elite Bohemian Club participated in a 1915 Cremation of Care ceremony—complete with candles and a robed and hooded comrade to guide him. This private club of influential men still meets annually north of San Francisco and uses this symbolic ritual to kick off its summer retreat. But today the ceremony involves burning a mummy-like effigy named Care at the foot of the group’s mascot: a 40-foot-tall (12-meter-tall) concrete owl.”
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:27 pm Post subject:
Nice to hear Edwina Currie on 5 live (Stephen Nolan show) describng the Neocons as a dangerous shadowy group with their own agenda and willing to do anything to achieve it
Although she is out of touch about people not going hungry. _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
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