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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Entrapment - Four charged in JFK Airport bomb plot Reply with quote

Four people have been charged in the US over a plot to bomb John F Kennedy airport in New York, US officials said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6715443.stm
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: Four charged over JFK 'bomb plot'. Another false flag? Reply with quote

David WJ Sherlock wrote:
Four people have been charged in the US over a plot to bomb John F Kennedy airport in New York, US officials said.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6715443.stm


The good old BBC, they never let us down do they, the BBC alleges in that link that they recruited an FBI informant!!!! hehe, so let me see if i understand this correctly, they decide to bomb the pipeline, and go about recruiting someone, and of all the people they just recruit an FBI informant.... RFLMFAO, is this another one of those fake news stories that the usa government nazis pay 2 billion a year for, to keep the threat of terrorism in the minds of the citizens?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Four charged over JFK 'bomb plot'. Another false flag? Reply with quote

Long Tooth wrote:
David WJ Sherlock wrote:
Four people have been charged in the US over a plot to bomb John F Kennedy airport in New York, US officials said.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6715443.stm


The good old BBC, they never let us down do they, the BBC alleges in that link that they recruited an FBI informant!!!! hehe, so let me see if i understand this correctly, they decide to bomb the pipeline, and go about recruiting someone, and of all the people they just recruit an FBI informant.... RFLMFAO, is this another one of those fake news stories that the usa government nazis pay 2 billion a year for, to keep the threat of terrorism in the minds of the citizens?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These "Al-Qaeda wannbees" as the Feebies described them, had been tracked for "nine months" as "they made plans to plant explosives around main fuel lines and tanks to cripple operations" at New York's JFK airport.
"Americans love Kennedy and if we hit the airport the whole country will be in mourning, like he was killed twice".
One of the alleged terrorists was a cargo worker at the airport, while another was a US citizen but had lived in Guyana and served as a member of that country's parliament. Another was from Trinidad.
There was no intention to target flights or passengers and "innocent people"
The aim of the plot was to shut down the busy airport and "raise new fears about flying into the US", but they had not yet bought explosives.
Oh!, they were only caught when they tried to recruit an "FBI informer" As someone famously said nearly six years ago, "This had all the hallmarks", but didn't say the rest, of an inside job, and a false flag operation. That is, of course, if, when, and after, they had purchased explosives!.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course the American public can be assured that this dastardly plan was foiled in the planning stages Very Happy

Seems they're getting desperate to convince the public of the terrorist threat , all the mass informed know it's government driven terrorism and they have the bombs planted against their own citizens.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Experts cast doubt on credibility of JFK terror plot Reply with quote

Experts cast doubt on credibility of JFK terror plot
by Luis Torres de la Llosa
Mon Jun 4, 8:20 PM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usattacksairportskepticism;_ylt=AoHRPX72sM OSE0CyVImslUQDW7oF

NEW YORK (AFP) - An alleged plot to blow up fuel tanks and pipelines at New York's JFK airport had little chance of success, according to safety experts, who have questioned whether the plot ever posed a real threat.

US authorities said Saturday they had averted an attack that could have resulted in "unfathomable damage, deaths, and destruction," and charged four alleged Islamic radicals with conspiracy to cause an explosion at the airport.

But according to the experts, it would have been next to impossible to cause an explosion in the jet fuel tanks and pipeline. Furthermore, the plotters seem to have lacked the explosives and financial backing to carry out the attack.

John Goglia, a former member of National Transportation Safety Board, said that if the plot had ever been carried out, it would likely have sparked a fire but little else, and certainly not the mass carnage authorities described.

"You could definitely reach the tank, definitely start the fire, but to get the kind of explosion that they were thinking that they were going to get... this is virtually impossible to do," he told AFP.

The fuel pipelines around the airport would similarly burn, rather than explode, because they are a full of fuel and unable to mix with enough oxygen.

"We had a number of fires in the US. All that happens is a big fire," he said. "It won't blow up, it will only burn."

Even if the attackers had managed to blow up a fuel tank, the impact would be limited, he said, citing the example of North Vietnamese forces attacking US fuel dumps during the Vietnam war.

"They hit the fuel tanks with pretty big rockets. You would get a big fire but not a big explosion other than the rocket."

"There is a difference between just exploding the tank and a huge explosion. The tank may explode and blow up some metal, but that certainly wouldn't go very far," he said.

His comments contrasted with those of US Attorney Roslynn Mauskopf, who insisted at the weekend that "the devastation that would be caused had this plot succeeded is just unthinkable."

Jake Magish, an engineer with Supersafe Tank Systems, also cast doubt on the credibility of the plot, saying: "The fantasy that I've heard about the people saying 'they will blow the tank and destroy the airport,' is nonsense."

"There are people there responding to hysteria, I think. But from an engineering point of view, if someone is successful in blowing a hole into a tank, they will just have a fire from one tank.

"There is no way for the fire to go from tank to tank, that is nonsense. It just won't happen."

Besides the alleged plotters' capability, other questions have focused on the main source in the probe -- a convicted drug dealer who infiltrated the group and whose sentence was pending as part of his cooperation with police.

Neal Sonnett, a former federal prosecutor, told the New York Times there was also a danger in overstating how serious or sophisticated a plot really was.

"There unfortunately has been a tendency to shout too loudly about such cases," he said. "To the extent that you over-hype a case, you create fear and paranoia," he said.

The New York Times on Sunday pointedly avoided giving much coverage to the alleged plot, devoting only a brief on its front page continued on the local section, despite the story breaking in the early afternoon on Saturday.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: NEW YORK JFK AIRPORT PLOT SUSPECTS ENTRAPPED Reply with quote

SHI'ITES CLAIM NY SUSPECTS "ENTRAPPED"

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The suspects, 62, 56 and 57, are accused of plotting to attack Kennedy Airport.

PORT OF SPAIN — The Shiite community in the two states of Trinidad Tobago and Guyana argued that the suspects accused of plotting to attack New York's Kennedy Airport were entrapped by an FBI informant with a criminal record.
"The source (the informant) visited our brothers with the specific intent to entrap them in activities they know nothing about, never agreed to and did not participate in," Huda, the daughter of one of the suspects, read from a statement on behalf of the Shiite community in both country, reported Agence France Presse (AFP).

She said the FBI's informant, who presented him self to the suspects as an American Islamic missionary, "is the only person culpable of any of the activities mentioned in the complaint.

US law enforcement authorities announced earlier this week foiling a plot to blow up fuel-tank pipelines at New York City's John F. Kennedy International Airport.

They named Huda's 62-year-old father Kareem Ibrahim, 56-year-old former Guyanese MP Abdul Kadir, Guyanese compatriot Abdel Nur and Russell Defreitas, an American citizen of Guyanese origin, as suspects.

The authorities admitted using a convicted drug dealer, who had been promised a curtailed sentence if successful, to infiltrate the group.

"Mr. Ibrahim did not know Mr. Russell Defreitas nor Mr. Abdul Nur prior to Mr. Defreitas' and Mr. Abdul Nur's visit to his home in Trinidad about three weeks ago," Huda argued.

Experts have also questioned the credibility of the allegation that Jamaat al-Muslimeen, a group that mounted a bloody coup in Trinidad in 1990s, was linked to the suspects.

"Jamaat is way past its hey day," Trinidadian expert Selwyn Ryan told the Caribbean360 website.

He noted that the group had been exposed to a series of security blows since the failed coup, leaving it unable to carry out or participate in such a giant plot.

The expert also underlined that Jamaat is a Sunni group while the suspects were all Shiites.

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Huda claimed politics not security was behind those arrests.

"We believe that the persons responsible for the arrest of our brothers are doing it for a purpose other than the protection of the people and interests of the USA.

"They have apparently done so in the interest of shoring up a lame duck presidency and increasing the lame chances of the Republican party being returned to power in November 2008," she alleged.

Huda insisted that as Muslims they are against shedding the blood of innocent civilians.

"To our Muslim brothers and sisters we swear by Allah, the Lord of Muhammad, that we have not participated in any terrorist plot against the United States.

"Neither of these men and we believe no one in our community participates in activities as those alleged in the public statements or in the filed complaint of the Department of Justice."

According to the CIA Facts Book, Muslims make up nearly b5.8 percent of Trinidad's one million population and 10 percent of Guyana's 769,095 populace.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cough. DRUGS. Cough.

More on the JFK airport terror plot

Terror plot suspect worked for the CIA's airline

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the attraction of June 2nd to the "terrorists" ?

June 2nd 2006 - Forest Gate raid.

June 2nd 2006 - Toronto 17 arrested.

June 2nd 2007 - JFK airport and fuel line plot.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: NEW YORK JFK AIRPORT PLOT SUSPECTS ENTRAPPED Reply with quote

moeen yaseen wrote:
SHI'ITES CLAIM NY SUSPECTS "ENTRAPPED"



The authorities admitted using a convicted drug dealer, who had been promised a curtailed sentence if successful, to infiltrate the group.



This is how these false-flag operations are managed, it seems: find someone who's scared of going to prison and offer them a light sentence if they'll do the dirty work - a classic case of carrot and stick, bribery and threat.

Sickening!
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