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rik st albans
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 Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: Let's SCARE the * out of THESE sad,sad,inhamane unhumans. |
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http://www.istructe.org/forum/thread.asp?tid=877&fid=1&cid&bhcp=1
We are wasting time,ladies and gents.
If we cannot convince THESE people,then it Is time to give up or get tooled up.Enough talk! |
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gericom
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You'd really think that they'd know better, wouldn't you? 
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ian neal
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: Re: Let's SCARE the * out of THESE sad,sad,inhamane unhumans |
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I disagree
Firstly that they allowed the thread for 277 posts and that it has proven considerably more popular than any other topic on the forum will have put 911 truth in front of a lot more people.
If by calling for us to tool up and abandonning talk you are proposing violence, then you are wrong in my opinion and that of the British campaign. Violence will not work or get us where we want. Trying to wake people up to 911 truth is a tedious and frustrating business at times but we are undoubtedly gaining momentum and support. But any hint that the 9/11 truth movement supports violence will destroy it.
However by tooling up you might have been suggesting tools for non-violent direct action and civil disobedience. I see nothing wrong with this kind of actism |
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rik st albans
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Let's SCARE the * out of THESE sad,sad,inhamane unhumans |
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Ian-I am sick and tired of talking about planes,no-planes,WTC7,the hole in the Pentagon,etc..
We ALL know that every day we are being monitored by the Big Brother state-they are watching this right now.
There are few of them-there are many of us.
Why do we allow them to control us?
When are we going to do something is my question? |
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Snowygrouch
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Dear Rik,
Your answer is in your question.
You say "we all know we`re being monitored".
By accepting that and then asking on a free public forum when are we going to "do something"........you will find special branch at your door at 4am before you can say "Ooops!".
If you know you`re being watched advocating anything illegal is; I`m sorry to say; shall we say...asking for it?
What are we going to do....is keep researching, keep campaigning, keep talking, keep marching, keep writing and emailing, keep seeing our MPs and keep our cool.
If thats not enough for you; this is the wrong campaign and the wrong forum for you. Of course I like to thing Ian and I have misinterpreted your post and you were not suggesting anything of the sort.....
C.
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ian neal
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Once we have a critical mass of popular support, the task of holding the corrupt powers to account should be the easy bit.
I'm of the belief that the key institutions of power in politics, media, the military and law enforcement are currently tightly controlled or influenced by corrupt forces. This influence is primarily driven by the fear amongst the elite in these institutions that if they step out of line they will be attacked and ridiculed by their peers.
If it becomes apparent that the tide of public opinion including amongst rank and file politicians, jounalists, police or military officers is with us, then ability of those at the top of the hierarchy in these institutions will loose their control and influence. It has always been in the power of the people to wrest back the power that is being taken from us. Our history both in this country and around the world tells us that. General strikes, drive-slows round the country's motorways, boycotts and demonstrations. It is quite within the power of the people to bring any country or system to its knees when they act in enough numbers and in a united manner. |
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Mick Meaney
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Let's SCARE the * out of THESE sad,sad,inhamane unhumans |
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| rik st albans wrote: |
When are we going to do something is my question? |
We are doing something - quiet a few on a daily basis and some even spend pretty much all waking hours spreading the message.
There's thousands of us working on it. It comes down to individual responsibility, I think the question should be "what am I doing?"
I bet you find that once you become active, you'll find others working in the same way as yourself fairly easily and should be able to collaborate on projects.
I don't know if you're currently in a group, but if not, maybe you should start one in your area. There's plenty of resources around and tons decent people who would be willing to give you a hand.
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ian neal
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Let's SCARE the * out of THESE sad,sad,inhamane unhumans |
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| rik st albans wrote: | Ian-I am sick and tired of talking about planes,no-planes,WTC7,the hole in the Pentagon,etc..
We ALL know that every day we are being monitored by the Big Brother state-they are watching this right now.
There are few of them-there are many of us.
Why do we allow them to control us?
When are we going to do something is my question? |
Likewise I find repeated debate of the detail to be tedious when the basic truth of our case is already proven and acknowledged by a growing number of people.
And you are right to think of why we let a comparative few control the many and how we will end their 'control' of 'us'.
Which examples from history would you suggest we look to for inspiration and what lessons do you take from past popular uprisings? |
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rodin
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Call me naive
But the CD of WTC can be shown to be true via physics.
So we have proof of a crime.
Every MSM is covering up this crime. I suggest we present this evidence to the editors of MSM media and heads of TV channels (once we have wtirren in up in a way that cannot in any shape or form be denied - and this should be possible). We present the evidence, then demand that they report it. If they refuse, we then sue them for negligence.
OK this is just a layman's idea. Any legal eagles out there who can come up with a better plan? Would mine work? What legal redress do you have in a police state pretending to be a democracy?
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kc
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| Quote: | | By accepting that and then asking on a free public forum when are we going to "do something"........you will find special branch at your door at 4am before you can say "Ooops!". |
Can we assume from Riks absence that the knock came and he's now ensconsed in orange jumpsuit? |
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rik st albans
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| kc wrote: | | Quote: | | By accepting that and then asking on a free public forum when are we going to "do something"........you will find special branch at your door at 4am before you can say "Ooops!". |
Can we assume from Riks absence that the knock came and he's now ensconsed in orange jumpsuit? |
Greetings from Bellmarsh my friends.Only kidding,still here. |
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