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Skeptic Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: Call for 'post-9/11' Religious Education classes |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6758317.stm
RE teachers must provide children with a more sophisticated understanding of the subject in a post-11 September world, Ofsted says.
After a five-year inspection of RE classes which began in the year of the attacks on the US, Ofsted says rote learning of RE is no longer adequate.
It says teachers should include ways in which religion is not always a force for good.
Increasingly pupils have been opting to study RE for GCSE and A-level exams.
Ofsted says that in England, which it covers, RE is being taught better.
'Standard responses'
In many schools, religion is linked with contemporary religious and moral issues, such as whether the war in Iraq was morally justified.
But all too often, say the inspectors, the exam system encourages "standard, mechanistic responses" running the risk of "trivialising significant religious issues".
It says students are often denied the profound understanding they need of the impact of religion on society.
"Religion is much more in the media than it has been in recent years" says Ofsted's Director of Education, Miriam Rosen, "and this is, of course, because of events like the bombings in London in July 2005 and the New York incident back in 2001.
"This has raised people's awareness of religion and raised the importance of considering religion's role in society, and the impact of it."
One of the most radical suggestions in Ofsted's report is that religion should be taught warts and all. The inspectors called on teachers not to shy away from controversy, but to accept in their classes that religion could be a force for bad as well as for good.
"Pupils should be taught that religion is complex," says the report, "and should be given the opportunity to explore that ambiguity."
'Solve issues themselves'
Angus Dawson, RE teacher at Royal Manor Arts College in Portland, has long found that pupils enjoy the ambiguity of religion, enjoying the "struggle between ideas" where there are often no right answers.
"We embrace the idea that religious ideas lead to conflict," said Mr Dawson. "The skills we teach (pupils) allow them to unpack the ambiguity and tension between ideas in a clear and straightforward way and to solve the issues for themselves."
But that level of achievement is too rare says Ofsted.
Miriam Rosen said: "They're not really concentrating on teaching about the role of religion in society and its contribution towards community cohesion. The very best are, but this is not consistently done."
Schools minister Andrew Adonis said RE can help educate children about issues surrounding community, diversity and tolerance.
He said: "Religious education is an important academic subject in its own right but it can also make a positive contribution to pupils' broad personal development and well-being, as well as bringing in issues of community cohesion, diversity, tolerance and respect.
"We agree that the potential of RE to contribute to children's education and understanding in these areas should be fully realised."
RE has long suffered a lack of specialist teachers, but Ofsted focuses on weakness in how progress is assessed, and the way the curriculum is planned, for the inadequacies in the subject.
It says that lessons often fail to build on prior learning. There is no national curriculum in RE.
Instead, all 151 local authorities are responsible for developing their own locally agreed syllabus. Ofsted says that hinders attempts to raise standards in RE, and consistency, across the country.
And those improvements are overdue. Ofsted says only a quarter of schools - albeit on its fairly small sample - were recorded as producing "good" achievement or better in pupils. One in eight were failing to produce even "adequate" achievement. _________________ UK-based alternative news site:
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kbo234 Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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This is really creepy and horrible but no more than one might expect.
However, in my opinion most of the damage is already done.
I spent a couple of weeks doing supply work covering RE in a large Comprehensive fairly recently. (I'm not an RE teacher but they'll take anyone who is prepared to put up with the abuse that goes with this kind of job nowadays).
I was pretty shocked at the content of many lessons. One year eleven group had to watch the Christmas episode of 'The Vicar of Dibley', replete with the denigration of all things Christian and recognisably Christmassy (you know, the infant Jesus, that kind of thing...."perhaps it would be fun to make him out of chocolate and eat him after"), Dawn French fantasising about which woman ("If I were so inclined") she'd like to "shag", jokes about fannies and 'folding bits" and an almost nude Rachel Hunter appearing from the direction of her bedroom. Effing hilarious it was.
Most of what is called RE is now actually more like "Citizenship-style" social conditioning.
The basic culture of UK secondary education has become an increasingly loathsome thing.
I would recommend the following article for what is, in my opinion, a pretty balanced analysis of the current state of play of western culture in general.
www.savethemales.ca |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I've been discussing 9/11 in education in view of the Schools History Project initiative.
I'd say we are seeing history unfolding in real time.
I imagined a war scenario, WW1 or WW2 and how the subsequent history became ingrained.
That's what is happening now with our school children.
911 history is becoming a doctrine.
It is reinforced to become ingrained and entrenched.
We are witnessing this because we know different.
It's up to us to challenge that doctrine, with 911 Truth.
If only the internet were in place decades ago.
I also feel a grant coming on . . . .
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Call for 'post-9/11' RE teaching |
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Skeptic wrote: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6758317.stm
Ofsted says:
teachers should include ways in which religion is not always a force for good.
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Indeed religion is not always a force for good. It can be oppressive, imposed, rigid, doctrinaire, anti-libertarian, escapist, naive, prejudicial, arrogant, hypocritical, warlike.
True religion IMHO is that which springs from love and truth at the centre of our being, not imposed from without by dogma and regulation. |
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Call for 'post-9/11' RE teaching |
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Skeptic wrote: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6758317.stm
Ofsted says:
teachers should include ways in which religion is not always a force for good.
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Indeed religion is not always a force for good. It can be oppressive, imposed, rigid, doctrinaire, anti-libertarian, escapist, naive, prejudicial, arrogant, hypocritical, warlike.
True religion IMHO is that which springs from love and truth at the centre of our being, not imposed from without by dogma and regulation. |
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Religion is a belief system and belief is the enemy of truth. WW1 and WW2 we 'learned' from school and media, just like children today are supposed to 'learn' about WW3 - the war on terra.
Terra Unfirma.
911 has caused an irreparable crack in the shell of deception that can only widen. Have you ever met anyone who found out 911 was an inside job, then changed their mind? It's a one-way conversion. In effect, everyone who uncovers the truth about 911 and CD is a 'revisionist'... _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: |
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rodin wrote: | Religion is a belief system and belief is the enemy of truth. ... |
It is if it's not based on evidence. I happen to believe the earth is roughly spherical. Certian evidence has convinced me of that, though I must admit that at one time I believed it because I trusted the people who told me it was. Was my belief in the spherical shape of the earth without evidence, the enemy of truth?
I do also have certain religious (spiritual) beliefs, but these, in the Quaker tradition, are based on my own experience, not on any taught or imposed dogma. Our own experiences of things are evidence for us personally, though reports of other people's experiences are relatively weak evidence.
Having been preached at in a born-again evangelical school with words such as: "You must believe, because it is sinful not to believe and you will burn in Hell for eternity if you don't," I rejected dogmatic religion altogether and became an atheist. To treat children like that is to attempt to intimidate them into claiming they believe something which they truly do not. The result is not belief, but dishonest claims of belief. Yes, I still feel angry about it.
rodin wrote: |
911 has caused an irreparable crack in the shell of deception that can only widen. Have you ever met anyone who found out 911 was an inside job, then changed their mind? It's a one-way conversion. In effect, everyone who uncovers the truth about 911 and CD is a 'revisionist'... |
Yes I have met one person who went through that. I think he originally took too much on trust from 9/11 truth campaigners he was in touch with, without really investigating open-mindedly himself. Then he apparently came across debunkers and decided he must have got it all wrong. I think his problem was not being prepared to dig deeply for the evidence.
But generally I agree with you that once your horizons have been broadened they can never again be narrowed. |
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