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fixuplooksharp
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 Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: Have you look up today? |
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I don't know about you, but here in london today the sky is messed up. I have never seen so many chemtrails. Its layer after layer! I just cant believe it. The sky is a mist!
Summer solstice tmrw at 12.06pm.
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telecasterisation
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So do you consider that commercial aircraft are unknowingly 'spraying' or are military/other planes are entering tightly controlled airspace and spreading their dodgy payloads?
I have never understood that, if it is universally accepted that contrails disperse quickly and contrails last many times longer, why don't 'innocent' commercial pilots continually point out the unusualness of contrails - they would be flying up there amongst them. Surely they can see that this is an unnatural phenomenon? |
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Emmanuel
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Telecastirisation, are you still on that? 
"well, if Bin Laden didnt make the planes go into the twin towers then I dont who did then?>>>"
Yes, we are being sprayed knowingly and without remorse.
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telecasterisation
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| Jacob wrote: | Telecastirisation, are you still on that?
"well, if Bin Laden didnt make the planes go into the twin towers then I dont who did then?>>>"
Yes, we are being sprayed knowingly and without remorse.
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Nice sidestep, but it is a difficult question.. |
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sidlittle
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Have you look up today? |
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| fixuplooksharp wrote: | I don't know about you, but here in london today the sky is messed up. I have never seen so many chemtrails. Its layer after layer! I just cant believe it. The sky is a mist!
Summer solstice tmrw at 12.06pm.
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I haven't honestly paid too much attention to this issue over the years but I have to agree with you about the skies yesterday. Its not something I look out for or tend to notice but I stepped out into the garden in south essex yesterday and it hit me immediately, an incredible amount of criss crossed trails.
Annoyingly, thinking about it now, I went to get my camera but got distracted by a rather long work-related call and forgot all about it. Bah.
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Emmanuel
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Mr telecastirasation said:
| Quote: | | So do you consider that commercial aircraft are unknowingly 'spraying' or are military/other planes are entering tightly controlled airspace and spreading their dodgy payloads? |
No I dont consider that. I have read at least two accounts of air force pilots when questioning what the extra pipes were for were soon given warnings to shut up or lose their jobs.
Also there are cleaners employed to clean aircraft like that and when they came across the unusual out piping were also warned to stay away and no ask questions about it.
From most witnesses it seems they are not passenger aircraft but small military white planes. It would take a long time to get to Ibiza if you had to do 3 crosses across the city before leaving wouldn it?
Like so many others here, i am not usig the full capacity of my memory.
Internet research ive done over the years is bitty and scanned data that has holes and weird connections taken from secondary sources.
Theres loads of stuf about chemtrails on
http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html
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Leiff
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I live in Norfolk and there were lots of wispy chemtrails here yesterday too. There was a big circular oily rainbow surrounding the Sun, later there was a thunderstorm. The wind was from the South so they could have been the residue of the chemtrails seen in London.
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telecasterisation
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Jacob wrote: | Mr telecastirasation said:
| Quote: | | So do you consider that commercial aircraft are unknowingly 'spraying' or are military/other planes are entering tightly controlled airspace and spreading their dodgy payloads? |
No I dont consider that. I have read at least two accounts of air force pilots when questioning what the extra pipes were for were soon given warnings to shut up or lose their jobs.
................... scanned data that has holes and weird connections taken from secondary sources.
Theres loads of stuf about chemtrails on
http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html
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This makes no sense to my own experiences of observing the aircraft that leave what we term as 'chemtrails'. I have watched a lot through high powered optics and they range through every model of commercial Boeing, certainly not military planes. Many have identifiable insignia from european and american based airlines.
If however what you say is true, how do the quantity of military aircraft blend in so seamlessly in the commercial lanes? How would it be possible for an aircraft laying trails that never appeared to disperse to not be noticed by the 'innocent' pilots flying just two miles behind?
The more I read about chemtrails, the concept becomes increasingly shakey. |
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gericom
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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I also noticed a lot of these chemtrails when I was driving back from Hornchurch towards Southend. Many did not disapate, but just seemed to stay in the sky. No noise of aircraft though.
These trails were really prominent yesterday, the first time I've really noticed them stay almost in shape for so long.
Then last night we had an intense storm and very heavy rain. Coincidence?
Probably!
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Emmanuel
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You are bringing up good points Telecastirisation  I dont have any binoculars or any kinds of lens to see for myself.
It is possible that they WERE only using military planes before and NOW they are stepping up a pace and using commercial aircraft too.
There needs to be more up to date info about this, I agree.
It seems with all these leaders of these "projects" they are expert embedders and multitaskers.
Changing weather, dampenign our higher consciousness energy, giving us flu, getting rid of barium...
What's in the chemtrails, and why are they spraying us?
| Quote: | "We wish we knew. There are only a few planes in the world that have the equipment to analyze the spray mix and can get to the CT altitudes, clearance must be obtained to fly into the trails and money must be raised for the $22,000 per day plane rental fee.
There may be several programs working at the same time. Possibilities include atmospheric and weather modification and biowarfare. Many theorize that it s part of a clandestine operation to implement the New World Order (NWO) by eliminating society s "useless eaters" and the infirm and/or to reduce the population to a support level for the "elite". Originally, it was thought to be mass inoculation for possible biowarfare attack; this theory has been ruled out with the increase of sicknesses and illnesses in the CT paths.
Edward Teller's (inventor of the hydrogen bomb) proposal to reduce global warming to the U.S. involves spraying minute aluminum particles to deflect the sun s harmful ultraviolet rays but still allow the Earth s heat to rise through them. This seems to be supported by rainwater tests after heavy spraying in Espanola, Canada which contained 7 times the allowable limit of aluminum. In this instance, the areas with the least ultraviolet protection, as in the Southwest, would be the heaviest sprayed. Most often, this does not seem to be the case.
Generally, spraying increases as clouds build. Chemtrails may be the reason that over half the world and over half the U.S. have been experiencing drought for the past 2 years. Witnesses have reported watching chemtrails fall through cumulus clouds, leaving the real clouds "skinny" and within a few minutes totally gone. Typically, storm clouds build and mix with the chem ingredients, resulting in a grey, uniform "mucky" sky which doesn t rain. The real clouds disappear, leaving behind the chem formations which were on top of the storm system.
Another possibility is barium salt mixtures. The Variable Terrain Radio Parabolic Equation (VTRPE) shows pilots what nearby radar systems can and cannot see under different terrain and atmospheric conditions. It was tested and perfected after aerosol barium titanate salt mixture was released from military aircraft, forming chemical trails in the atmosphere across America. Barium salts were also used in Libya, Panama and Desert Storm where they were sprayed and exploded overhead to make the people extremely sick and weak. It s a radioactive material that accelerates and magnifies the effects of other mix ingredients by altering the chemical structure of the other agents. A spectrum analysis reveals only the barium compounds and hides the "bad stuff" by placing a shell around it. After time, it releases the other agent. Think of it as a time release death pill. " |
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