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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Covert Ops against 9/11 Truth campaigners Reply with quote

Over the last 10 years there has been an astronomical increase in the amount of Internet forums that have been created by users in a paticular field.While many deal with leisurely issues like Music and other past times when it comes to political forums the dialogue between members is quite different....Many sites have been shutdown and video clips uploaded to both You Tube and Goggle have been deleted.While these sites allow all sorts of violence to be uploaded they delete anything that opposes mainstream politics.Don Valentine owns 30% of youtube via Sequoia Capital a monster company...with their hands dipped in a collasal amount of companies.I think when people do some investigation of their own they will find how the owners of Sequoia Capital and Youtube & Google are all linked.
http://www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2004/12/21/sequoia_hooks_up_with_da ting_site_eharmony.html

If one was to pick the top 100 corporations in the world and do an analysis of all the CEOs' they will find how cosy their family web is and what societies they fund with hundreds of millions of dollars.During Michael Moores' Documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 he highlighted how a CIA agent infiltrated a mediocre organisation run by a majority of elderly people.He also highlighted how an elderely man was arrested in the middle of the night in his home by Federal Agents on the basis of his public opinions on George Bush.Every country in the world that has DEMOCRACY as its fundamental has as its staple FREEDOM for all people irrespective of Race,Colour or status in society.The American Constitution was founded on:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America"[/b]
viewable at :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution


Irrespective of what country you live in-under a democracy you are allowed FREE SPEECH.Every country founded on Democracy or whatever Genre has a written constitution which outlines what rights people have within each nation.Isn't it crazy that the documents that all our countries were founded on are not examined in any of our school subjects.I would suggest every poster locate their constitution and read it and then examine the Ammendments that have been made to it since its foundation and then think about who have benefited from it.

I would also advise any user who has Norton Anti-Virus (specifically Norton Internet Security) installed on their computer to get rid of it and install a superior Anti Virus Program called NOD32 or Kasperskys' Anti Virus 6......available at:
http://reviews.cnet.com/software/nod32-2-5/4505-3513_7-32103849.html?t ag=prod.txt.1

Norton Anti-Virus who have a multi-billion dollar contracts with governments permits the CIA,FBI,INTERPOL,FSB & KGB through the alliance of Microsoft and the Patriot Act to bypass all your computers security,where agents monitor the websites you visit and is open to hacking by highly trained personnel daily.Also Norton Anti-Virus updates its viruses on a weekly basis which allows your computer to be attacked at certain periods on a weekly basis.This allows highly trained agents who have access to massive bandwidth servers to do an international search on all the cookies of every online computer in the world at specific downtimes.These millions of cookies are then catalogued and structured into a special database with several classes from Leisure to Political etc.The technology is similar to how the CIA & FBI monitor specific words over the internet that lock in on users of certain terms.NOD32 updates its virus protection 3 times daily and blocks everything.A summary of the CIA annual report from 1999.This has been conveniently unclassified but shows a summary of what they were doing pre 9/11.Since 9/11 this annual report is no longer published in the interest of national security. Can be viewed at:
http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/report-99.html


[b]People need to educate themselves as to what exactly is happening in our world today.Through this thread I hope that posters who have been to other sites can share their suspicions on suspected agents who have infiltrated websites across the Internet.A test of this would be if any poster had the courage and finance to setup a specific site called say:www.nameanagent.com or somewhere along those lines.However,as many host sites have closed down particular sites dealing with dangerous issues the user or developer would need to be able to ensure or operate the site from their own host server with highly encryptable technology that doesn't allow agents to locate the IP address of the Host server.The site would also need specific databases that allow users to search within the site and at least 5000MB Bandwidth along with other standards.It would also need to be built on non-Flash technology that doesn't hamper Dial Up Connection users.

THE IDEAL WAY OF MAKING THE MOVEMENT STRONGER IS FOR PEOPLE TO STOP WATCHING 2 OF THE MAIN AYRAN PROPAGANDA MACHINES CALLED CNN & FOX.SCAN FOR INDEPENDENT MEDIA TO GET THE REAL VIEWS..TRUST NO MEDIA.IF IT SMELLS LIKE A RAT..IT IS A RAT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD4NOlUF3A4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1giPZ9-laM&NR=1

Civilians across the world have been asleep,including myself for many years now and it really is imperative that we wake up..otherwise there will be nothing left for our children and the freedoms we scarcely have today will be all but gone.While posters may think the following societies are fantasy..these organisations are very real and have been running under such secrecy for over 175 years that even the current President of the United States and John Kerry refuse to discuss it with reporters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcZig9Fkr1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnmj_G62aqQ&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSQFySxzznw&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdxI0zClV_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBflT4w2-qU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI6e0MWqtQA&mode=related&search=

and this will be the religion of the New World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC3jnQLj_zM


This is who the United States President really is and the family history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpRB1z14qTE


There are three areas in question:

1.
THE SKULL & BONES SECRET SOCIETY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_bones

2.
AGENTS INFILTRATING THE INTERNET

3.
A LIST OF SIMILAR SECRET SOCIETIES WITHIN COLLEGES OF THE USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collegiate_secret_societies

I suggest until someone of more knowledge or qualifications the following criteria for naming agents over the internet could be chartered.
A-NAME THE SUSPECTED AGENTS' HANDLE OVER THE INTERNET
B-INCLUDE LINKS TO THEIR COMMENTS
C-WHEN A SITE HAS BEEN CREATED SPECIFIC MODERATORS NEED TO VERIFY AND ANALYSE THE COMMENTS POSTED BY THE NAMED USER.
D-HANDLE ADDED TO A VERIFIED LIST CHECKED BY MODERATORS.

The Skull & Bones Society is very real and its source is Yale University in America.Alex Jones a reporter infiltrated this organisation and exposed it for the first time in 2001 with real camera footage.This guy is the most important and most courageous reporter around the globe.While we have reporters for CNN out in Iraq dodging bullets and reporting back how we are winning the war on terror Alex Jones life has been threatened many times.However,thankfully his movement has grown and the Skull & Bones members know that if they were to have him killed,there are many more in the ranks who will take his place.


I don't know if the owner of this website would be interested in setting up a site but it really does need be created as soon as possible.If I had the finance myself I would do it tomorrow.

As indicated above much more information can be located at:
www.infowars.com

This site refers to the War on Freedom...never in history has the fight for our international freedom been so essential. We are fighting amongst ourselves as a direct result of manipulation by massive corporations and wealthy governments who would think nothing of building themselves a bunker (if not already built) and unleashing nuclear weapons on large areas of populated nations.Remember,a nuclear weapon does not destroy the earth that is above sea level..it wipes out in minutes everything on the land.What if tomorrow the US bombed Russia,Japan,China,Australia & Europe.How easy would it be for them to rule a new world.

Then we wonder why Putin is standing up to Bush. Putin is not an idiot. Take a look at the qualifications of Putin-then put it up against the qualifications of Bush. Who is the more intelligent..????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
Do we have such a thing as Putins alongside our Bushisms/Cheneyisms,Roveisms/Riceisms.Scooterisms!?

Did anyone ever think that maybe Iran, Russia and the Japanese know what Bush is up to and they are not going to sit back and let it roll!? USA have declared a war on every sovereign nation in the world...."anyone harbouring terrorists" is a threat to every nation if I ever heard one. What now constitutes a terrorist.


There is one catch that is delaying this process.Currently when a nuclear weapon is dropped the side effects last several thousands of years.The US Military are currently working on chemicals that can overcome this effect.Wake up...our childrens' lives depend on it.If you think everything here is untrue,then do your own investigating prove us wrong in our quest for freedom.July 2001 Alex Jones predicted 9/11...This footage has never been aired since 9/11 on any TV station.When he mentions the WTC he is referring to its previous bombings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8

Ron Paul maybe the only person who can get us out of this mess:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFlN61XThE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXm7BOE_AsE


Please do not comment until you have viewed this documentary.

To view documentary go to the following link below and browse down to:

"Martial Law Alex Jones brings his bulldog style to the 911 issue in a big way. This video covers 911 issues with tons of references, as well as proof of the new police state that it has allowed to take hold". [Buy the DVD]

Alex Jones - Martial Law 911 1of5 (WMV 48megs)
Alex Jones - Martial Law 911 2of5 (WMV 48megs)
Alex Jones - Martial Law 911 3of5 (WMV 48megs)
Alex Jones - Martial Law 911 4of5 (WMV 48megs)
Alex Jones - Martial Law 911 5of5 (WMV 48megs)

http://question911.com/linksall.htm

Within the download screen "Alternative Link 3" is capable of high bandwidth and is the preferred choice for viewing or downloading.


While there is a wealth of information within the links above it is only the tip of the iceberg.People really need to start investigating...do it over a coffee....Please prove the information false for i for one would wish that it were not true..but the more a poster the digs they will realise it gets a lot worse.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on folks, the founder of the Pontious Pilate Fan Club has gone to a lot of trouble to write this ramble, with different colours, bolding and everything. Surely someone can find something there to relate to and comment on, don't make our new member feel ignored.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: SUSPECTED AGENTS OVER THE INTERNET Reply with quote

Thank you whatistruth

I would like to suggest a couple of good programs that can help, you probably know them already but for others:

Torpark- fairly good anonymous web surfing
VPN- virtual private network, this with tor Smile
Net-Stat- shows all incoming/outgoing internet traffic
Ethereal- packet sniffer, shows everything communicating from ur pc
Wireshark- packet sniffer also, same GUI i have both installed.
Avast- anti virus
Zone Alarm Pro- firewall
Trend Micro- free online virus checker

Any links needed pm me, all software is virtually free, there are free VPN networks but they survive by donations.

You are right in saying that Norton really is a suspicious Av program, never have I seen a program take control of a PC like Norton. Seriously Ive never seen a program needing so many updates or to scan everything and it takes the PC completely off line from the user whilst it updates. My av Avast (plz don't say its a bad 1) lol doesn't stop me using my PC when updating or scanning like Norton.

Also people please be aware of the IRC - Internet Relay Chat, must viruses or php scripts can be remotely sent via the IRC. If you use the IRC block ports 6667 and 6669 they are the ports used by the IRC to send viruses remotely. Net Stat will block ports and kill connections. Dont become part of a botnet where people use your bandwidth to do harm.

Use web browsers like Firefox not IE7 (internet explorer) the security for something called DNS- domain name signatures with IE7 is really bad plus with Firefox you can tell the browser to clear all history when closing the browser after finishing.

If anyone knows other good programs like these plz do tell
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done, BOTOX. I use Panda myself, and find that very good. It also has a rather cute icon!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"could it be that ww2 and the extermination of jewish people was planned as a way of creating a race of people who it would be difficult to blame for anything, a cover race for the illuminati?" - a quote NOT from the 'controversial theories' section.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bushwacker wrote:
Come on folks, the founder of the Pontious Pilate Fan Club has gone to a lot of trouble to write this ramble, with different colours, bolding and everything. Surely someone can find something there to relate to and comment on, don't make our new member feel ignored.


Get an Education....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatistruth wrote:
Bushwacker wrote:
Come on folks, the founder of the Pontious Pilate Fan Club has gone to a lot of trouble to write this ramble, with different colours, bolding and everything. Surely someone can find something there to relate to and comment on, don't make our new member feel ignored.


Get an Education....

Gosh, how you have changed, from pouring out verbose multi-coloured rantings to man of few words in an instant!

I have to say it is an improvement.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bushwacker wrote:
Surely someone can find something there to relate to and comment on, don't make our new member feel ignored.

There is a great deal to relate to and a lot of very serious stuff. You might care to view just one of them (though I know you will not) :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1giPZ9-laM&NR=1

to get an idea of the trouble we are ALL in, courtesy of the monsters you defend. God I always feel like I need a shower after I respond to the likes of your smug, glib dismissive remarks. I will never understand why people like you even come here, let alone choose to hang around for months.

Whatistruth - you made the mistake of posting in "Critic's Corner" perhaps thinking you might get a "critic" to take a serious look at some of the enormous and blatant evidence of how monsrtous is the conspiracy by government against us. I hope you now realize it is a pointless task. These sewer-dwelling creatures are part of the problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatistruth wrote:
Many sites have been shutdown and video clips uploaded to both You Tube and Goggle have been deleted.While these sites allow all sorts of violence to be uploaded they delete anything that opposes mainstream politics.Don Valentine owns 30% of youtube via Sequoia Capital a monster company...with their hands dipped in a collasal amount of companies.I think when people do some investigation of their own they will find how the owners of Sequoia Capital and Youtube & Google are all linked.
But Blackcat, youtube is controlled by the conspirators!

Oh wait, its ok to talk complete * and contradict yourself every two minutes if you're a troofer.

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No comment on that video I posted then. As usual ignore what you cannot deal with and generalise instead.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepik wrote:
Oh wait, its ok to talk complete * and contradict yourself every two minutes if you're a troofer.


Ok Young Einstein II...
Picture this...you are a German citizen and you witness this...

Hitler gained power during Germany's period of crisis following World War I.Using propaganda and charismatic oratory, he appealed to the economic needs of the lower and middle classes, while sounding resonant chords of nationalism, antisemitism, and anti-communism.He blew up the Reichstag,blamed the Communists and got the people behind him.With the establishment of a restructured economy, a rearmed military, and a totalitarian regime, Hitler pursued an aggressive foreign policy with the intention of expanding German Lebensraum (living space). After the annexation of Austria and then parts of Czechoslovakia, Hitler triggered World War II by invading Poland, much of which was also annexed to form the Großdeutschland Reich ("Greater German Reich").

you are a civilian in any country in the world and you witness this.

Phase One
(Hitler gained power during Germany's period of crisis following World War I).
After Prescot Bush (A US traitor) and three other families fail to take over Congress in 1934 he raises his son George H.W. Bush with influence of his teachings from a very young age.

On his son becoming President of the United States (1989-1993) he stated on SEPTEMBER 11TH 1990 addressing Congress "Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a New World Order — can emerge: a new era"...Subsequent to this he initiated the Gulf War 8/2/90.On pulling out of Iraq Bush explained "that he did not give the order to overthrow the Iraqi government because it would have "incurred incalculable human and political costs... We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq-We're going into Baghdad. We're going to be an occupying power — America in an Arab land — with no allies at our side. It would have been disastrous"On 24th December 1992 Bush pardoned 6 employees in order to prevent implications of involvement.Due to Reagan causing massive deficit and then Bush increasing it even more he wasn't re-elected.So Bush the 1st failed..he didn't get past Hilters' first hurdle.

Back to the drawing board...

Phase One
("Hitler gained power during Germany's period of crisis following World War I").
George Walker Bush takes over from an 8 year reign of Clinton who using the "Third Way" presided over the longest period of peace-time economic expansion in American history,which included a balanced budget and a federal surplus and on impeachment retained a 65% approval rating,the highest end-of-presidency rating among all the Presidents that came into office after World War II.Even though Bush was born in Connecticut many Southerners think he is a Texan!!

In 13th December 1999 he was asked "What political philosopher or thinker do you most identify with and why?" Unlike most of the other candidates, who cited former Presidents and other political figures, Bush responded, "Christ, because he changed my heart".Based on this he used the Christian elite to gain votes.

("Using propaganda and charismatic oratory, he appealed to the economic needs of the lower and middle classes, while sounding resonant chords of nationalism, antisemitism, and anti-communism").
On a horrendous campagin to become President-Rove (another generic Nazi) used for the first time in US Election history great manipulation methods based on the fundamentals of the Nazi regime to belittle opponents,paticularily John McCain by claiming he and his wife had a prositute black orphan child among other things.The Supreme Court installed him as President over Gore,even though they were making him the first President elected without at least a plurality of the popular vote since Benjamin Harrison in 1888.A now 1.35 trillion tax cut program has with the economy,however strong,only benefited the wealthy,and not the majority of middle and lower-class citizens.The country is in ruins financially,which is exactly what Hilter done during his reign.

However the difference at this point in time is that Hitler appointed brilliant people into the roles of his government which led to the world believing (even Americans believed it) that the Nazi Party were great rulers,so much so that only for one General,Congress would have been taken over.

George Bush has appointed fools and jesters and when you appoint fools and jesters the lies and unbelieveable mistakes will catch up with you.Due to lack of education and non-funding of education (part of the plan) the youth of America get their education off a box on the wall that is controlled by the government.What Simon sees,Simon believes...This has the effect that America and other countries around the world have been asleep while the plan is gone into overdrive since Bush took over from Clinton.

Phase Two
("He blew up the Reichstag,blamed the Communists and got the people behind him.With the establishment of a restructured economy, a rearmed military, and a totalitarian regime, Hitler pursued an aggressive foreign policy with the intention of expanding German Lebensraum (living space)").

George Bush takes over the White House in Washington on 20th January 2001 and during his inaugration speech says "to build a single nation of justice and oppurtunity,we will build our defenses beyond challenge,"and subsequently gives the order for Timothy McVeigh (the Oklahoma City bomber) to be executed on JUNE 11TH 2001.For the next few months Bush ignores repeated calls for investigation of regimes in the Middle East.Then on SEPTEMBER 11TH 2001 the World Trade Center is attacked.Using the PNAC report citing a new Pearl Harbour George Bush blows up all three World Trade Centers (Bushs' Reichstag),robs $160 billion dollars ($230 million only recovered from a truck underneath WT5) from underneath the World Trade Center which was one of the biggest gold depository in the world and immediatedly blames the Middle East.So we have looking back September 11th 1990,June 11th 2001 and finally September 11th 2001.

Bush declares war on the Middle East and cites irrespective of what country,that they will be attacked if harbouring terrorists.Using two Patriot Acts,several Vetos' (not within the original Constitution) and creating the Executive Order 13233 Act he walks all over every Law of the Constitution.Before September 11th Bush had 50% approval rating,a few days following he had 85% approval rating.Thankfully Flight 93 was shot down (at the expense of 20% passengers aboard) preventing Martial Law being declared in America-had the White House been hit in Washington.the pilots that day who disobeyed direct orders should been given the Medal of Honour.They saved the Constitution.

Over the last few years "Domestic spying has included undercover infiltration of political organizations with no suspected terrorist affiliations, telephone surveillance without a warrant, and the Carnivore program for internet surveillance.The policy of holding enemy combatants in a legal status outside of either due process of criminal prosecution nor the Geneva conventions for prisoners of war created a legal limbo without a process for adjudication or appeal.The extraordinary rendition of an innocent citizen of Canada, to Syria, caused an international incident involving kidnapping,wrongful imprisonment and torture.The Cato Institute,a libertarian think tank,stated in a white paper that "President Bush's constitutional vision is,in short,sharply at odds with the text, history, and structure of our Constitution, which authorizes a government of limited powers."

Phase Three
("After the annexation of Austria and then parts of Czechoslovakia, Hitler triggered World War II by invading Poland, much of which was also annexed to form the Großdeutschland Reich ("Greater German Reich")").

Military police are now more involved in patrolling and spying on United States civilians,the likes of which have never been seen since the introduction of the United States Constitution.A Military budget of $860 billion dollars per year over the last 7 years has enabled the US to along with spending the combined Miltary Budgets of all other countries,but also in developing a nuclear program that makes the Cold War era look like a drop in the ocean.

In January 2007 former FBI agent John Peeler (search the net yourselves-if I give link the host sites will be deleted like all others) in his own words

“For years,I worked underground basically as a hit man or infiltrator,trying to nip in the bud any patriot or militia movement threatening the New World Order agenda, being privy to exactly how the government staged terrorist events like Oklahoma City and 9/11 in order to further the Illuminati agenda leading to World War III and the destruction of the West.I was basically one of them,a part of the New World Order,”

“After 9/11,I started putting the pieces together,started connecting the dots and now fully realize from the firsthand facts I obtained while working for the FBI that Oklahoma City and 9/11 were inside jobs.And the moment I finally realized the government officials I served were “the real criminals” and I was just another minion or hired gun carrying out their dirty work,there was no turning back.I then turned in my badge and gun for a loud whistle around my neck in order to spread the truth”


While also revealing that Timothy McVeigh a CIA agent is still alive,he revealed other details which make 9/11 look like a needle in a haystack.Not unlike the General who informed Congress of the Coup in 1934,Mr. Peeler has publically done it because he has stated that 95% of Congress are involved in the plot to create Martial Law in the United States before next years Election.This can be introduced immediatedly by President Bush alone in the event of an attack on the White House in Washington.He has said if this fails a rigged election in 2008 will install our Antichrist.

Over the last few years a link has been made between Prescot Bush,George H.W. Bush,George Walker Bush and the Nazi Party along with the fraternity Skull & Bones.

These last few months has seen both the President and all main media pressure Congress to pass a law that enable foreigners to become Presidential Candidates ie, a push for Arnold Schwarzenegger (a son of a Nazi SS Officer) to run for President.

This month has seen him on the front cover of Time Magazine with a Skull & Bones Belt Buckle clearly visible.We are on the verge of Martial Law in the United States,a Nuclear War and total erradication of all civilians in Europe,Asia,Africa & South America & Australia.John Peeler is risking his life for 6.6 billion people and is the only one out of several hundred thousand worldwide CIA & FBI & NSA agents who wish to save the Constitution and an immenent Nuclear War.

We are 6.6 billion people and we are allowing a few hundred to use the power of the Military to control our freedom for generations to come.The Nazi Party were erradicated by other surrounding countries,but if there are no surrounding countries then who exactly is going to save us!

Posters who are critisizing people who do care about their freedoms,need to get with the program or else we won't have any internet,any children,any parents or any world to enjoy.The ones who do critisize must be agents because it is so blatantly obvious what the current administration is doing that any sane normal person who has a family would do anything to protect it.Its no use next year if Martial Law is declared and we have to get up off our asses,put on our clothes and risk our lives with guns and armourment to defeat them.Currently the power of the people is our greatest ally and nothing a few hundred can do will be strong enough to break it.However,the catch is that if Martial Law is brought in after the attack on the White House we cannot defend oursleves against nuclear weapons.The power of the people will be useless and such is its swiftness in destroying civilians via nuclear weapons that we won't even have time to blame each other.We will be dead.

Everyday the current administration gets closer to their goals and they are banking on our ineptness to sit back and think these horrific injustices could be preformed by the same people they think are looking out for them...WRONG...If you actually think that George Bush is stupid,do it at your peril.This guy is probably one of the most evil intelligent men that have walked the earth since Hitler.Hitler,did not look into how Napoleon lost the war and Hitler made the same mistake.George Bush hasn't made those mistakes and inside 7 years has made Russia,Iran step up and take notice,who were also asleep.Bush has manipulated the entire population of America,the main Rulers of Europe and only now are they realising who this man is.Dictators are ruthless people and judging by his mothers' response during the Hurricane Katrina disaster,this is where he gets his evil nourishment from.
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Only a liar could interpret "you might like to look" as a command. As usual you give a misleading specious reply, and your petty ego is clear. Anyone seriously concerned about the mass murder in New York would be viewing most videos relating to that day and the consequences of it. I just watched a ridiculous cartoon "explaining" how planes brought down the twin towers and the even more laughable commentary by the talking heads on tv. At least it gives me the ability to form an opinion. I am out of this place - it stinks in here.
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Only a liar would say I "ignore what I cannot deal with" simply because I don't watch every youtube video someone throws at me. Whatistruth gave links to 13 different videos in one post - am I obligated to watch all of them if I don't want to be accused of "ignoring what I cannot deal with"? Get a grip.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Only a liar would say I "ignore what I cannot deal with" simply because I don't watch every youtube video someone throws at me. Whatistruth gave links to 13 different videos in one post - am I obligated to watch all of them if I don't want to be accused of "ignoring what I cannot deal with"? Get a grip.


You see this is where you fail..

How many hours of television do you or an average person watch a day.How many hours of it will tell the truth.It seems to me that you are selective in what you breath,hear and see...

But are you selective....YOU HAVE NO CHOICE IF YOU FOLLOW YOUR CURRENT PATTERN...because not only is the air you breath full of chemicals and carcinogens,the media telling you live in a democracy and because the media is your view of the world you are only a number ie,have you ever thought about getting up off your ass and skipping down to your local streets where people are dying of hunger and brutality and drugs as a direct result of one MEDIUM...a CORPORATION.

Corporations that pay their CEOs' millions,Corporations that pay their media millions and corporations that murder millions.So what you maybe is a cockroach who runs around the floor of a kitchen and when your caught,where all your other cockraoch friends go "Oh dude,you f***ed up"..in order to protect themselves and their interests they eat you up....not unlike thousands of corporate CEOs' around the world who have been found dead on boats,bottom of cliffs,buried in the earth.....keeping the blinders on is dangerous and stupid and if you can't understand what I am saying here then it is no wonder you are in the current mindset.

Much like the weeks leading up to Hitlers' downfall in which the very race he claimed he was protecting (the ayran race) were expendable because they were weak...People like you are the weak and succomb to the faith of people like the Goebbels suicide.....but this time round WE won't have the luxury of lighting up a cigarette in deviance after Hilters'/Bushs' demise...we will be dead such is the minutes that are required in the wrath of the US Military Nuclear Weapons.
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am I obligated to watch all of them if I don't want to be accused of "ignoring what I cannot deal with"? Get a grip.

I posted ONE!!!! Mixing my post with someone else's is typical of your specious drivel.

No-one suggested you are "obligated", you were invited to view just ONE. It would have been interesting to hear the comments of a supporter of the mass murderers, and that is the only reason why I asked you. You can have the last word on this, I really can't stand the smell in here.
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C'mon guys...we're all here for the same reason (apart from the trolls of course) ...to solidify our understanding of the events of 9/11. Arguing amongst ourselves will get us nowhere...as Whatistruth has said "we need people power" and this is not happening with these petty divisions. The internet is limited in potential and we could probably find that if we all met in one (real world) place we'd likely laugh about these misunderstandings. In part I think it is frustration and I feel it too, as there is so much work to be done by so few with so little time.
Idea Let's move forward and respect our minor differences and stick to the objective, 9/11 Truth! Through this we will gel and spread the truth. It is happening!

In response to Whatistruth's comments about an "imminent Nuclear War"...well I challenge this statement for the following reasons:

1) Why would the Illuminati create a nuclear holocaust when they have to live on this planet after the destruction. Surely it will be years, if at all before the planet will be habitable again?
2) The Illuminati enjoy their control of us and having no one to control because they've all been wiped-out, well what's the point!
3) Yo may think that there is an answer to the nuclear issue by the option of the Illuminati sitting in space (after pressing the red button so to speak) and not having to return to the earth until life re-appears). No I don't think this is an option as the earth is too precious to destroy, even for them...they have to live on this planet too.
4) There would be no fun for the powers that be to initiate this as they have many future projects such as world population control to experiment and a micro-chipped society with World government, law etc. If they wanted to massively reduce the population they just need to create more killer diseases such as Aids etc, or famine, you name it!

Anyway, this is my take on the nuclear issue and I really hope that I'm right. That's not to say that nuclear weapons will never be used again, but not to wipe out the world's population or most of its continents.
I am also living in hope for life to continue as we know it of course! Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pegasus wrote:
C'mon guys...we're all here for the same reason (apart from the trolls of course) ...to solidify our understanding of the events of 9/11. Arguing amongst ourselves will get us nowhere...as Whatistruth has said "we need people power" and this is not happening with these petty divisions. The internet is limited in potential and we could probably find that if we all met in one (real world) place we'd likely laugh about these misunderstandings. In part I think it is frustration and I feel it too, as there is so much work to be done by so few with so little time.
Idea Let's move forward and respect our minor differences and stick to the objective, 9/11 Truth! Through this we will gel and spread the truth. It is happening!

In response to Whatistruth's comments about an "imminent Nuclear War"...well I challenge this statement for the following reasons:

1) Why would the Illuminati create a nuclear holocaust when they have to live on this planet after the destruction. Surely it will be years, if at all before the planet will be habitable again?
2) The Illuminati enjoy their control of us and having no one to control because they've all been wiped-out, well what's the point!
3) Yo may think that there is an answer to the nuclear issue by the option of the Illuminati sitting in space (after pressing the red button so to speak) and not having to return to the earth until life re-appears). No I don't think this is an option as the earth is too precious to destroy, even for them...they have to live on this planet too.
4) There would be no fun for the powers that be to initiate this as they have many future projects such as world population control to experiment and a micro-chipped society with World government, law etc. If they wanted to massively reduce the population they just need to create more killer diseases such as Aids etc, or famine, you name it!

Anyway, this is my take on the nuclear issue and I really hope that I'm right. That's not to say that nuclear weapons will never be used again, but not to wipe out the world's population or most of its continents.
I am also living in hope for life to continue as we know it of course! Smile

Ian


Good Post Ian

1) Why would the Illuminati create a nuclear holocaust when they have to live on this planet after the destruction. Surely it will be years, if at all before the planet will be habitable again?

Former FBI/CIA & NASA sources have said that US scientists have been working on a biological ingredient that counters the effects of atomic substances.They have been unsuccessful up until now but sources claim massive efforts are going into the development of a WEAPON that is either dropped or placed underneath the core of the destroyed site and absorbs atmoic energy.Its like an anaolgy of how bacteria spreads in a petri dish-when an anti-bacterial agent is placed in its centre it attacks and destroys the bacteria.In only a few years did it take the Americans to build the atomic bomb that was dropped on Japan.Several decades ago a scientist developed a biological source that narrows the effects of oil spills in oceans.When spread across the oil spill,it attracts like a magnet the oils main ingredients.That was 35 years ago and no other research has been done by General Electric into it.The biological substance is very expensive to create and corporations refuse to put revenue into researching the substance because they claim the chances of oil spills nowadays are very slim.Which is not true at all,for the corporate media only report a fraction of large ocean oil spills and thousands of rivers spills.The ocean is 2/3 of the planet.Check out this monster of a company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric

"In 1972, respondent Chakrabarty, a microbiologist, filed a patent application, assigned to the General Electric Co. The application asserted 36 claims related to Chakrabarty's invention of "a bacterium from the genus Pseudomonas containing therein at least two stable energy-generating plasmids, each of said plasmids providing a separate hydrocarbon degradative pathway." 1 This human-made, genetically engineered bacterium is capable of breaking down multiple components of crude oil. Because of this property, which is possessed by no naturally occurring bacteria, Chakrabarty's invention is believed to have significant value for the treatment of oil spills"
http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Diamond-v-Chakrabarty-16jun80.htm

Think about it-I have always believed anything is possible whether its getting honours in your exams or creating a cure for malaria.If you ponder that atomic bombs release energy...Magnets can create astronomical amounts of energy so if you say atomic energy is the negative pole and anti atomic energy is the positive pole each would cancel each other out.What if NASA scientists can erradicate the effects of an atomic bomb.The reason so much funding is going into it,is that they claim it could be used on other planets that have massive amounts of nuclear and other energies.You should never underestimate the power and intelligence of the human mind.Remember Einstein unintenionally took part in the building of the Atomic bomb.
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/12/29/worlds_largest_super.html

2) The Illuminati enjoy their control of us and having no one to control because they've all been wiped-out, well what's the point!

If the Illumanti destroyed all of Europe,Asia,Africa,South Americas and Australia they would have over 303 million people left on US soil to control under Martial Law.How long would it take 303 million people to repopulate the earth???..I'm not even going to go into what cloning human beings could do.What if I said that even though George Bush is vetoing every stem cell bill but behind the scenes it is being done..If President Bush can control US scientists from developing Stem Cell Research and within NASA the opposite is going on,what type of control is that.Hitlers' main goal was to expand Germanys' living space.Bush and the illumanti have the same goals.

3) Yo may think that there is an answer to the nuclear issue by the option of the Illuminati sitting in space (after pressing the red button so to speak) and not having to return to the earth until life re-appears). No I don't think this is an option as the earth is too precious to destroy, even for them...they have to live on this planet too.

If you check the Internet on what would occur if Nuclear Weapons were launched across the planet you are in for a big surprise.Nuclear Weapons would only destroy several metres of the earth along with every living organism.Posters need to open their mind because back in 1934 Roosevelt thought that Hitler was an innocent little fellow.How many decades is Global Warming going on and both George Bush Senior and Junior have done nothing but make it worse.Do you really think that it worries them.The Earth will adapt as it has done for billions of years.Check out what the Earth has put up with since its birth.As stated above if an agent can be developed that cancels out atomic energy..the Bush administration is sorted.Never underestimate the power of a raving lunatic.We meet them every day in the form of the corporate media and have a look at the recently retired head of EXXON....He looks like the guy "Fat B***ard" from Austin Powers...pictures attached

Read about Exxon-It continues to fund 41 sceptic groups about Global Warming and we have IDIOTS who are Congressman who bring these fairytale documents onto FOX and CNN to turn global warming theories into fantasy.And you think they aren't capable.??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/assets/binaries/exxon-secrets-analysis-o f-fun.pdf

Why do people murder,rape,torture,incest,paedophilia..Madness breeds Madness and if we believe that the Bush Administration are a bunch of idiots,then that will be our downfall....They are depending on our ineptness.

4) There would be no fun for the powers that be to initiate this as they have many future projects such as world population control to experiment and a micro-chipped society with World government, law etc. If they wanted to massively reduce the population they just need to create more killer diseases such as Aids etc, or famine, you name it!

What would be the quickest way to gain world population control?.Exterminate...like Hitler did and got away with for how long before intervention.Hitler didn't have nuclear weapons thankfully and we should be thankful that Einstein wasn't a Nazi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

They would have 303 million people under Martial Law control and do you think we would rise up if the rest of the world were exterminated....We are dealing with very sick intelligent individuals

There is no cure for AIDS with 38.6 million people living with it in 2007.What if Aids didn't originate in the Sahara and was introduced accidently into the environment as all current diseases are.The Catholic Church claimed it was created by God to exterminate Homosexuals...what if it was created by corporations to exterminate the poor.Remember the killer bees....that was an accident...and what an accident.Wasn't it so easy for the Whites to blame the Blacks/Africans for this disease and we have Pastors all over America attending Gay funerals with banners claiming they deserved to die.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aids

"Famine is induced by a human population beyond the regional carrying capacity to provide food resources".Famine has not gone away-it still kills millions every year...

As for creating a killer disease-all these diseases are already there,but their spread ratio is controlled.What if they could create a biological weapon that could exterminate an entire population.Then they wouldn't need to blow the s*** out of the earth.This indeed would be the better option.Maybe this weapon is already created.

So we have two choices-either be exterminated by a nuclear weapon or be exterminated by a biological weapon.Which is better or which is worse??..Either way we are absolutely f***ed if we don't do something about it.A biological weapon would evaporate quicker than a nuclear weapon,but what if they evaporate both.??

Posters need to look through what has occurred in the United States over the last 20 years.They will see that all its administrations have not relented in their quest for global power.How can the current administration spend $860 billion annually on its Military..are they expecting Aliens to come down and attack us.The population of the Earth are the illegal aliens and we will be exterminated while us Americans will be under Martial Law control and our job will be to repopulate the Earth if we sit back and ponder.-could they really do it!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its always a shame when the completely loony stuff spills into critics corner, you lot are supposed to pretend to be sane when you're in here.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepik wrote:
Its always a shame when the completely loony stuff spills into critics corner, you lot are supposed to pretend to be sane when you're in here.


says who?

so pepik what is reality in your eyes? you defend every tiny thing the goverments do even when obvious, so is your reality the waltons?

then you call us looney Rolling Eyes you've got to be looney to think your goverment could never do, or has never done anything against their own people even when history proves it!

what are you scared of accepting pepik?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepik wrote:
Its always a shame when the completely loony stuff spills into critics corner, you lot are supposed to pretend to be sane when you're in here.


Oh really-thats what the German people said before Hitler murdered over 6 million of them without nuclear weapons.Or maybe you are part of the current Nazi Party who claim the holocaust never happened.As a critic you ain't putting up much of an arguement.I have read nothing but nonsense from both you and Bushwacker who never quote any evidence-actually scandolous dribble where the more you go on,you dig an even bigger hole for yourselves.

None of you have answered with REAL evidence any question people have posted here.Bit like the Bush Administration,but thank God we can't be arrested when we speak out over the internet.The more you to go the more I am inclining to believe that you are both part of the Carnivore program.Whats even worse is that I have only came across two of you who have these simple and unintelligent agendas.But because of your IQ levels in your posts its obvious you ain't part of the program..

There are more intelligent people in CIA,NSA & FBI than the IQ of both of you put together..Maybe you are screening for a job with FOX or CNN.No SANE person would defend what you are both trying to defend.Then when you come back with comments like above..you have nothing,no evidence to support the 911 Commission Ommission Report ,zelch...nothing....need I spell it out any clearer...then what do people do when they are locked into a corner-they change the subject.All you both have are insults at people....an insult-like when we were in playschool..Are you not both adults now....

I have only one question for both of you.If you can't answer it why are you in this critic section.I have seen better criticism from four year olds than the stuff that falls out of your mouths...

Why was there thousands of degrees of temperature underneath the Trade Center with the Molten Metal dripping off the the sides of the rocks being unearthed.???..Maybe the firemen dug so deep they got to the centre of the earth...!

If you can't come up with a good constructive criticism about the whole event---
WHY ARE YOU BOTH HERE??


I came into this area of the website to see what are the arguements against and you both have provided nothing.Bush wouldn't be interested in both your resume!..your an insult to your cause.

I have a few books you can read that may suit your IQ
Alice in Wonderland
Goldilocks & the Three Bears
Pinnochio
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so pepik what is reality in your eyes? you defend every tiny thing the goverments do even when obvious, so is your reality the waltons?
Really? Then why do I think Guantanamo should be shut down and the Patriot Act repealed? Why didn't I vote for Bush? I guess you are just making nonsense up because its convenient and you can't handle anything beyond a cartoon world of good and evil stereotypes.
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Or maybe you are part of the current Nazi Party who claim the holocaust never happened.
I'm not the one linking to Rense, you are.
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1) Why would the Illuminati create a nuclear holocaust when they have to live on this planet after the destruction. Surely it will be years, if at all before the planet will be habitable again?

Former FBI/CIA & NASA sources have said that US scientists have been working on a biological ingredient that counters the effects of atomic substances.They have been unsuccessful up until now but sources claim massive efforts are going into the development of a WEAPON that is either dropped or placed underneath the core of the destroyed site and absorbs atmoic energy.Its like an anaolgy of how bacteria spreads in a petri dish-when an anti-bacterial agent is placed in its centre it attacks and destroys the bacteria.In only a few years did it take the Americans to build the atomic bomb that was dropped on Japan.Several decades ago a scientist developed a biological source that narrows the effects of oil spills in oceans.When spread across the oil spill,it attracts like a magnet the oils main ingredients.That was 35 years ago and no other research has been done by General Electric into it.The biological substance is very expensive to create and corporations refuse to put revenue into researching the substance because they claim the chances of oil spills nowadays are very slim.Which is not true at all,for the corporate media only report a fraction of large ocean oil spills and thousands of rivers spills.The ocean is 2/3 of the planet.Check out this monster of a company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric

"In 1972, respondent Chakrabarty, a microbiologist, filed a patent application, assigned to the General Electric Co. The application asserted 36 claims related to Chakrabarty's invention of "a bacterium from the genus Pseudomonas containing therein at least two stable energy-generating plasmids, each of said plasmids providing a separate hydrocarbon degradative pathway." 1 This human-made, genetically engineered bacterium is capable of breaking down multiple components of crude oil. Because of this property, which is possessed by no naturally occurring bacteria, Chakrabarty's invention is believed to have significant value for the treatment of oil spills"
http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Diamond-v-Chakrabarty-16jun80.htm

Think about it-I have always believed anything is possible whether its getting honours in your exams or creating a cure for malaria.If you ponder that atomic bombs release energy...Magnets can create astronomical amounts of energy so if you say atomic energy is the negative pole and anti atomic energy is the positive pole each would cancel each other out.What if NASA scientists can erradicate the effects of an atomic bomb.The reason so much funding is going into it,is that they claim it could be used on other planets that have massive amounts of nuclear and other energies.You should never underestimate the power and intelligence of the human mind.Remember Einstein unintenionally took part in the building of the Atomic bomb.
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/12/29/worlds_largest_super.html

2) The Illuminati enjoy their control of us and having no one to control because they've all been wiped-out, well what's the point!

If the Illumanti destroyed all of Europe,Asia,Africa,South Americas and Australia they would have over 303 million people left on US soil to control under Martial Law.How long would it take 303 million people to repopulate the earth???..I'm not even going to go into what cloning human beings could do.What if I said that even though George Bush is vetoing every stem cell bill but behind the scenes it is being done..If President Bush can control US scientists from developing Stem Cell Research and within NASA the opposite is going on,what type of control is that.Hitlers' main goal was to expand Germanys' living space.Bush and the illumanti have the same goals.

3) Yo may think that there is an answer to the nuclear issue by the option of the Illuminati sitting in space (after pressing the red button so to speak) and not having to return to the earth until life re-appears). No I don't think this is an option as the earth is too precious to destroy, even for them...they have to live on this planet too.

If you check the Internet on what would occur if Nuclear Weapons were launched across the planet you are in for a big surprise.Nuclear Weapons would only destroy several metres of the earth along with every living organism.Posters need to open their mind because back in 1934 Roosevelt thought that Hitler was an innocent little fellow.How many decades is Global Warming going on and both George Bush Senior and Junior have done nothing but make it worse.Do you really think that it worries them.The Earth will adapt as it has done for billions of years.Check out what the Earth has put up with since its birth.As stated above if an agent can be developed that cancels out atomic energy..the Bush administration is sorted.Never underestimate the power of a raving lunatic.We meet them every day in the form of the corporate media and have a look at the recently retired head of EXXON....He looks like the guy "Fat B***ard" from Austin Powers...pictures attached

Read about Exxon-It continues to fund 41 sceptic groups about Global Warming and we have IDIOTS who are Congressman who bring these fairytale documents onto FOX and CNN to turn global warming theories into fantasy.And you think they aren't capable.??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/assets/binaries/exxon-secrets-analysis-o f-fun.pdf

Why do people murder,rape,torture,incest,paedophilia..Madness breeds Madness and if we believe that the Bush Administration are a bunch of idiots,then that will be our downfall....They are depending on our ineptness.

4) There would be no fun for the powers that be to initiate this as they have many future projects such as world population control to experiment and a micro-chipped society with World government, law etc. If they wanted to massively reduce the population they just need to create more killer diseases such as Aids etc, or famine, you name it!

What would be the quickest way to gain world population control?.Exterminate...like Hitler did and got away with for how long before intervention.Hitler didn't have nuclear weapons thankfully and we should be thankful that Einstein wasn't a Nazi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

They would have 303 million people under Martial Law control and do you think we would rise up if the rest of the world were exterminated....We are dealing with very sick intelligent individuals

There is no cure for AIDS with 38.6 million people living with it in 2007.What if Aids didn't originate in the Sahara and was introduced accidently into the environment as all current diseases are.The Catholic Church claimed it was created by God to exterminate Homosexuals...what if it was created by corporations to exterminate the poor.Remember the killer bees....that was an accident...and what an accident.Wasn't it so easy for the Whites to blame the Blacks/Africans for this disease and we have Pastors all over America attending Gay funerals with banners claiming they deserved to die.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aids

"Famine is induced by a human population beyond the regional carrying capacity to provide food resources".Famine has not gone away-it still kills millions every year...

As for creating a killer disease-all these diseases are already there,but their spread ratio is controlled.What if they could create a biological weapon that could exterminate an entire population.Then they wouldn't need to blow the s*** out of the earth.This indeed would be the better option.Maybe this weapon is already created.

So we have two choices-either be exterminated by a nuclear weapon or be exterminated by a biological weapon.Which is better or which is worse??..Either way we are absolutely f***ed if we don't do something about it.A biological weapon would evaporate quicker than a nuclear weapon,but what if they evaporate both.??

Posters need to look through what has occurred in the United States over the last 20 years.They will see that all its administrations have not relented in their quest for global power.How can the current administration spend $860 billion annually on its Military..are they expecting Aliens to come down and attack us.The population of the Earth are the illegal aliens and we will be exterminated while us Americans will be under Martial Law control and our job will be to repopulate the Earth if we sit back and ponder.-could they really do it!

Whatistruth, you have obviously done your research and as much as this news is not welcome, ignoring it is much easier for people than to accept what is happening and what could happen if we continue to have the apathy we've all had for too long. If some or all of your information is misleading it is better if society has the ability to have checks and balances in place to prevent dangerous issues like these from being a reality.
So where are our government/society 'checks and balances' when you need them? Surely, if this information is available to us (eg the links provided by whatistruth), then it is available to those whom we depend on for our security. Why then is nothing being done to stop this!

My only conclusion, as most of you will also suspect is that the Illuminati/NWO are pulling the strings, just for a change. Shocked

Better to be safe, than sorry by at least contesting those in power.


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