Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: Power & aims of international Jewry
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The below given report is a U.S. War Department investigation and evaluation of issues generated by Jewish power. It was compiled in August 1919 and given SECRET classification until 1973.
A hard copy of this document may be obtained from U.S. National Archives in Washington DC, - its number is 245-1.
This analysis is given credibility in that it comes from declassified US documents. I am just reading it now, but think it is likely one of the better sources of information. _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject:
Israel is a Theocracy, Not a Democracy – I Don’t Want My Nation Supporting Theocratic Bigotry!
I have heard rhetoric about Israel all of my life and I have yet to see any reality that accurately reflects that rhetoric, except for one thing: Israel is, as they claim to be, a Jewish state.
Now correct me if I am wrong but how can a a nation that claims to be democracy place a religion or a culture above all the rest? How is that democratic? That, my friends, reflects the attitude of a theocracy, not a democracy. So why do we continue to call Israel a democratic nation and why are we supporting them?
You know I can not think of one benefit my nation has received in return for or as a result of our blind support for Israel. Call me antisemitic if you like, many of you will, simply because I am voicing legitimate concerns and raising valid questions, but after you label me…answer my questions. Why is my tax money going to Israel? What’s in it for me? What is the return on my investment? I know a lot of people on this planet don’t like my nation too much because we offer blind support to Israel regardless of the pain and suffering they inflict on a group of people and that is a pretty bad thing for me, in my opinion! And why is our democracy loving nation supporting a nation that places one religion or culture over all others? Isn’t that bigotry?
You know I as an American do not approve of the conduct of my nation where it comes to Israel. Correct me if I am wrong but my nation has been the sole member of the UN Security Council to veto over 30 otherwise unanimous resolutions denouncing the conduct of Israel. I am supposed to forget, ignore or be deprived of all the details behind and reasons for world opinion when it comes to Israel because according to my government, and the establishment media, Israel never does anything wrong and anyone who says otherwise is biased; and the supporting facts and details don’t matter. Well, I am not that stupid. I can see what takes place in the world. And I have news for you…even biased sources can have valid opinions from time to time. For example I am biased against radical religious people who treat women like possessions yet I am perfectly within reason if I make the very valid point that the Taliban violate women’s rights and should have never received the support of the Bush administration and a diplomatic visit with the Bush administration should never even have been allowed forget invited (as they were by the Bush administration in early 2001). Likewise I am also within reason when I say that nobody in the world can tell me that Israel treats non-Jews they same way they treat Jews, especially Arabs.
I did not like it when Colin Powell delivered a $43 million check to the Taliban prior to the events of 9/11; a little tidbit that the establishment media skipped over in their catatonic coverage of the conduct of the George W. Bush administration. The media has basically kept all the actions of this administration a secret and if you think that is an overstatement you have not been reading TvNewsLIES.org very long. So when Powell delivered that check I sent out an e-mail to all of my friends saying that any women who supported this administration deserves what they get because they just gave the most anti-woman government in history $43 million. That did not make me biased. Just the same when I comment on the actions of Israel when it comes to their treatment of the Palestinians, their violations of UN resolutions, their continual construction of settlements in the occupied territories, their destruction of food supplies like when they bulldoze 100 year old olive tree groves and water wells, their practice of collective punishment like when they use American supplied bulldozers to destroy the homes of innocent people, or their total disregard for all human life that is not Jewish (in that they will blow up an entire building full of innocent Arabs to kill one of their suspected targets), and their disdain for any kind of law or due precess as they simply kill anyone they label as a suspect, it does not make me biased. I ask questions about this stuff. That does not make me anti-anything. It makes me curious and it makes me angry. Again I say you can call me anything you want but please address my concentrates.
Now Israel continues to refer to itself as a Jewish state. Our media and our government officials refer to Israel as a Jewish state. Well, call me an anti-Semite but someone please just answer this question…why are we supporting a nation that has proudly declared itself to be a theocracy? Isn’t America trying to support democracies or more specifically secular democracies? Why do we refer to Israel as a democracy if they call refer to themselves as a theocracy and conduct themselves as cultural supremacists who can do anything to anyone, anywhere, in the name of self defense, even if there is no clear indication of a threat?
Israel is in violation of dozens of UN Security Council resolutions and had it not been for the sole vetoes cast by the US over thirty more resolutions would have been passed unanimously over the past 20 years. Iraq did not even come close to violating that many resolutions and look what we did to them, yet we actually support Israel. In addition Israel practices collective punishment. They punish an entire society for the actions of some or even many of its members. You tell me…if your pregnant mother died waiting at a checkpoint…as dozens if not hundreds of pregnant Palestinian women have, what would you do to the people who caused her death? I don’t know what I would do…but know that I don’t want to support people who do things like that and guess what…Israel does exactly that! So if anyone on Earth can tell me why I should want my tax money supporting this, I’ll listen. But until then…stop calling names and start answering questions. Think about it.
June 21st, 2007
http://www.tvnewslies.org/blog/ _________________ "The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." George Orwell
Noun 1. theocracy - a political unit governed by a deity (or by officials thought to be divinely guided)
church-state - a state ruled by religious authority
form of government, political system - the members of a social organization who are in power
2. theocracy - the belief in government by divine guidance
ideology, political orientation, political theory - an orientation that characterizes the thinking of a group or nation
People do not understand meanings of words. Again, people just accept the given examples of the words useage and do not bother checking if the use is correct of the words actual meaning.
Some people think Saudi Arabia is a Theocracy. In Islam there is no such thing as a Theocracy. As it is HARAM to say a Fatwa is from God! In Islam, we believe only Prophets were examples of Theocracy, as they are in direct link with the Divine.
In Christianity, obviously it has been somewhat established and accepted many times, where a King has the Divine Right of Rule. Cromwell and his Puritan Christian following saw to it that this was severed.
In Judaism. Now I am no expert in Judaism, however... I have yet to see any evidence of the government having any Divine Right to Rule, or any Divine authority. I would not call Israel a Theocratic State. I would call it an oppressive state at the very least. Oppression is not the mark of Judaism. Plus, looking at what JewsAgainstZionism and JewsForJusticeForPalestine have to say, I fail to see how we can call Israel a theocratic state. Does Israel officially declare itself as such? I would hardly call its leaders fully-practicing Jews.
This site seems like a Polish anti-Semitic site by the way.
I see no reference to anything external that can be verified to truly say that any of this is really credible.
How did you come across this site and its page? What is stopping someone from saying you just searched for "Jewish Conspiracy" or something like that? I am not saying you did that, btw.
The Zionist goal is to rule the world. Getting their own "country" was just the first step - they set up a place to rule from. I have in my posession an actual facsimile of a 1919 US War Department report (28 pages long) called, "The Power and Aims of International Jewry". In this SECRET document they spend a full third defending the legitimacy of the Protocols. I recommend you read this report and the Protocols. You will see that it isn't over yet.
I got the title of the document from post 25 in this thread
I think it is probably genuine, but nothing is certain.
Quite a good heated debate. I like this forum - plain talking and never politically correct. Intelligent without being snooty. All walks of life. A few trolls but the regulars are great at flushing them out. _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com
The Zionist goal is to rule the world. Getting their own "country" was just the first step - they set up a place to rule from. I have in my posession an actual facsimile of a 1919 US War Department report (28 pages long) called, "The Power and Aims of International Jewry". In this SECRET document they spend a full third defending the legitimacy of the Protocols. I recommend you read this report and the Protocols. You will see that it isn't over yet.
I got the title of the document from post 25 in this thread
I think it is probably genuine, but nothing is certain.
Quite a good heated debate. I like this forum - plain talking and never politically correct. Intelligent without being snooty. All walks of life. A few trolls but the regulars are great at flushing them out.
That document is fascinating, and would be nice if there were some indication as to whether it is real. The reference provided is very vague. And knowing the authorship is important - the document is speculative and 'investigative'. Presumably it was requested by someone or other. It doesn't reflect reality beyond the views of the author, but I'm interested if members of the war department might have considered the protocols semi-seriously. Mind you, the famous Times investigation wasn't published until, IIRC, 1921.
Personally I find the similarity between the Protocols and this earlier fictional satire remarkable.
http://www.geocities.com/net3431/Dialogues_In_Hell.html
I do like that thread. That Anty Ep guy is priceless. Regarding this rather bizarre notion of whether 'the Jews' want to take everyone's guns away (a new thing thing to blame on Jews I hadn't heard before, but I should have guessed. Tha jooos wunt tuh take mah guns. Quick! Call Charlton Heston!)
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So what you see sometimes with the wise Jews, is that they seed both sides of a debate with their own. They are like corporations that simultaneously donate to both sides. Who cares who wins! They got a word in either way. It's called "hedging" to bet both long and short against stocks or the market, and they have known this wise policy of social-political "diversification" for a long time.
So how can the NRA mount a successful attack on the Jewish-controlled gun control movement, when their own board room is filled with them?
Oooooo-kaaaaay.
So if some atheists are into the animal liberation front, perhaps prominent members, but many prominent meat eaters, factory farmers and industry lobbyists are also atheists this means that 'the atheists' are hedging their bets? Or does it mean some atheists are into animal rights and some atheists are into eating factory farmed meat?
Actually some Jews are into animal rights and question the allegedly 'humane' nature of kosher, but many aren't bothered. Further evidence of their nefarious plotting?
I continue to be utterly fascinated by this notion Judaism is some kind of vast club where members receive their 'instructions' by some kind of monthly newsletter or whatever. Incidentally, this thread also contains the assertion you recently made Rodin that Judaism is a religion not a race. If that's the case, anyone who is from Jewish lineage but doesn't practise, is now Christian or an atheist is by definition no longer a Jew. In which case, much of this 'Jews control everything' rhetoric collapses even further, as much of it relies on simply gathering Jewish names and lineage, Hitler style. Jewish conspiracy theories rely on Jews being part of some mysterious collective 'other'. Which is why it's not entirely surprising David Icke got tarred (unfairly and inaccurately IMO) with the 'he means Jews' brush as his lizards narrative works on an identical notion of 'bloodlines' and 'otherness'.
Oh, by the way; Hume's truth didn't die with him except in a very narrow sense - it's argued about to this very day. Nobody really knows the truth of the matter.
Whatever the 'true' nature of external reality, you can only stumble your way through it with your limited primate sensory apparatus. It's very difficult for the subjective to get a grip on the objective. Unless you're God. _________________ It's a man's life in MOSSAD
Well, FWIW, am a truther, so here we will agree to differ I trust. I want to uncover THE truth, not MY truth.
You should join GIM forum too, Dogs - there are some people there you would be stimulated crossing swords with I think. Plus it has a much faster turnover (posts and loading times) than NE...
I post here more because here there is more work to be done. (Not as much as when I first posted though...)
The GIM forum is already free of guilt and may have been since its inception. I don't think it ever had an agenda except to protect oneself, uncover truth, and profit from the flipside of the money fraud. It supports decency. Like all forums of note it will attract lobbyists and trolls, but it seems to be secure enough with enough educated members participating so as not to be infiltrated to the point of dominance.
I watched a bit of that video. Seems like the usual stuff about Israel's disgraceful behaviour that would make me irritated before lunch.
I don't post in many places...only here really at the mo...as it takes to much time, particularly if you get into a big debate and need to find references. So I doubt I'd join GIM. Besides I don't care very much about money; it's the root of all evil you know. _________________ It's a man's life in MOSSAD
I watched a bit of that video. Seems like the usual stuff about Israel's disgraceful behaviour that would make me irritated before lunch.
I don't post in many places...only here really at the mo...as it takes to much time, particularly if you get into a big debate and need to find references. So I doubt I'd join GIM. Besides I don't care very much about money; it's the root of all evil you know.
No. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. The result of this has been the development of USURY (DEBT) MONEY!
Not real money at all! _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com
Just one example of hundreds. Probably. The main difference is in the control of information. Before it was more compartmentalised and so docs that 'they' would have shredded got filed. Plus the infiltration/rot has been progressive. The founding fathers were not 'in on it' judging by the way they suffered for their DOI. _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com
I love to piss off lefties by reciting the body count of Communism.
Cambodia 8-13 million est., Ukraine 30+ million, China 59 million est., Russia 30 million+ est., North Korea ? millions, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Laos, Mozambique, Angola, Congo, and many other places.
Communists will save the world if they have to kill everyone in it. It's over 150 million dead in the 20th century implementing the communist paradise.
Amazing that otherwise rational people take this philosophy of death seriously. Talk about cogitive dissonance.
And then nothing but hate for patriots like Gen. Franco or Gen. Pinochet who save their countries and thousands or millions of lives. You'll never hear in the MSM that Pinochet was REQUESTED by the democratically elected Congress of Chile in the resolution of 22 August 1973 to remove president Allende. And then after shepparding his country out of the woods he calls an election and the people VOTE him out of office. So the bad nasty 'dictator' calmy hands over the reins of government to the newly elected president. No you'll never hear that in the USA.
Franco always stated that after his rule he would turn over the government back to the monarchy. That's what he did. After Franco died Juan Carlos became King. We need more Pinochet's or Franco's.[/b]
A revisionist post to be sure. But since 911 an awful lot needs revising. Thatcher, dumped by the elite for EU opposition, ie anti globalist stance, supported Pinochet. I bought the story he was a bad guy. Anyone got solid info on Pinochet, as a side issue?
Well, I wouldn't say that reducing the amount of an awful lot of people dying makes things any better - I'll leave that to holocaust deniers - but I think some of those figures are rather questionable. For example that 8-13 million for Cambodia seems to be rather stretched. Two million tops, though that has had its challengers. And who trained the Khmer Rouge? And who precipitated their rise by their secretive bombing campaign?
Honestly Rodin, if this guy wants to suggest Allende wasn't removed by a coup or any of his other bizarre 'they saved millions' claims, perhaps they should provide some evidence. It's even referred to a coup here -
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20000919/01-01.htm
(from here http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20000919/index.html#docs)
It's not a 'revisionism', it's just some bloke saying stuff with no apparent basis for doing so.
If you want 'solid info' on Pinochet, please specify what you mean - since you have access to search engines I'm assuming you in some way nevertheless find what you've found dissatisfactory in some way.
So you're a fan of Thatcher now too, huh? Dear me...
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Just one example of hundreds. Probably. The main difference is in the control of information. Before it was more compartmentalised and so docs that 'they' would have shredded got filed. Plus the infiltration/rot has been progressive. The founding fathers were not 'in on it' judging by the way they suffered for their DOI.
That link doesn't go anywhere unless you subscribe. I'm not personally aware of any evidence that shredding is more common now. There are still reams of documents still seen as unfit for release from decades ago. What 'infiltration'? Don't tell me... _________________ It's a man's life in MOSSAD
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: Trotsky...
in his lifetime was on the payroll of the Germans during the Russian Revolution, then became a non-persona under Stalin and associated once more with the Germans ie fascism and at the same time according to this document produced in the USA was indirectly linked to ...zionism.
Another comment further down alleges the struggle for communism led to 150 million dead. In other words the cause and conflicts of WW1, the rise and fall of the British Empire which presided over this historical period are ignored to ...piss off lefties.
Being an apologist for Empires no less murderous and for Kingdoms no less corrupt pisses no leftie off. It only shows the level of the debate. Its at the level of the sewer with the difference being that those engaging in it assume they aren't in a sewer but in... a reasoned political discussion.
All Empires rise and fall. All kingdoms at one point in history collapse. When people post such contradictory and ridiculous comments where characters are at the same time EVERYTHING, zionists, communists, fascists, globalists, there is only one purpose. To deconstruct thought, history, logic and start anew by arriving at a true evil new order.
...For example that 8-13 million for Cambodia seems to be rather stretched....
It is not a stretch. The SAS and others trained up the Khymer Rouge in some deadly deadly tactics. There are pictures of HUGE Mass Graves in Cambodia. Cambodia is the only place on Earth where more people have been killed and continue to be killed by Mines and unexploded devices than anywhere else.
...For example that 8-13 million for Cambodia seems to be rather stretched....
It is not a stretch. The SAS and others trained up the Khymer Rouge in some deadly deadly tactics. There are pictures of HUGE Mass Graves in Cambodia. Cambodia is the only place on Earth where more people have been killed and continue to be killed by Mines and unexploded devices than anywhere else.
The last one is about the highest estimate I've seen, but I haven't scrutinised it (though you'll notice it puts the entire population at 7 million in 1970 - mind you one of the others I just noticed has the entire population at 8 million. On GIM guy's lower estimate, and to go with the more generous population estimate, no-one survived). I'm open to evidence for a higher death toll, but have just never seen it. Whatever the case it was abominable, appalling. _________________ It's a man's life in MOSSAD
I think some of those figures are rather questionable. For example that 8-13 million for Cambodia seems to be rather stretched. Two million tops, though that has had its challengers. And who trained the Khmer Rouge? And who precipitated their rise by their secretive bombing campaign?
If you want 'solid info' on Pinochet, please specify what you mean - since you have access to search engines I'm assuming you in some way nevertheless find what you've found dissatisfactory in some way.
So you're a fan of Thatcher now too, huh? Dear me...
What 'infiltration'? Don't tell me...
1. The poster later says the figures are from memory. One medium term project will be to find the most cerdible sources for communist genocide. But 100-200 million in the 20th c seems reasonable, most in China and Soviet Union.
2. 1973 CIA releases may or may not be disinfo. I distrust all leaders. I will try to look for dirt on Allende when time permits. This week no.
3. No I did not research Pinochet. Side bar issue. I have higher priorities. Just looking for a short-cut to info to check the poster's assertion.
4. I actually have some sympathy for Thatcher. Maybe this is because she aligned with my somewhat unresolved libertarian-but-moral streak. Also the way she was dumped suggests she was not playing their game.
FWIW I am of the opinion that Bolshevism and Communism support the elite. They are undeniably constructs of the same team that brought us the delights of Zionism. Where do we find either Zionism or Communism in the UK today and in the recent past?
1) Zionism - there are a disproportionate number of Jews or Zionists in control of our filthy lying media. There are lists that prove this. To argue otherwise is to lose credibility as a seeker of truth. Also we see them in key government posts - where thay are actually visible. Lord Levy being of course a prime example. Also, the secret society of freemasons (and perhaps the majority or even every member of the armed forces and police are obliged to become one - certainly all of my relatives who served in either war were co-erced to join) are following a Zionist NWO agenda. They even have a term for us - profane goy - that is the secular equivalent of the Judaic term 'goy'. Plenty more examples exist of disproportionate Zionist control of the choke-points of civilisation - supermarket chains, banking, the legal profession, etc. Now they even run Tube security...
2) Communism - I would like to know how many of our political representatives were communists. Did they turn or are they agents? Unions became dominated by communists. Pre Thatcher you HAD to join one, just as you HAVE to join freemasonry to get on in the 'services'. No doubt in both cases it is sold as FOR THE COMMON GOOD.
Now answer this
Why in school are we taught about the awful Nazi holocaust, but little or nothing about the Soviet one, which is many times larger (and BTW better supported by evidence)? And why are we not taught that the instigators of the Russian Revolution were Jewish?
Could it be the same reason that we are told 19 Arabs did 911? Or 4 Muslims 7/7?
I think the west is utterly infiltrated by a communist 5th column seeking to fulfil the NWO agenda of the jew Mordechai aka Marx. I also think that Marx was probably promoted by Rothschild. Collectivisn collects everything and hands it over to the elite.
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At the Sixth Party Congress held in Moscow in 1928, Communists wrote and approved “The Program” to bring in the New World Order
Pinochet participated in a coup d'état that deposed Marxist President Salvador Allende
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Pinochet remains a polarizing figure in many parts of the world, dividing people who condemn him for human rights abuses and for taking power from a democratically elected government, from those who credit him with stabilizing Chile and preventing a Communist takeover.[8][9]
PS The poster on GIM who supported Pinochet is from Chile and Oregon...
PPS This is a likely a dynastic conspiracy. Or one involving a small group of families probably closely related. It uses Judaism as a recruitment and holding operation. All religions are IMO bogus. People born into Jewish families can choose between good and evil, and just as with other Religions. I am sure they do. But the corrupt secret rulers reward and protect those who choose evil because they serve their cause.
PPPS There are still some anomalies that do not fit into my picture. If Rothschilds = EU Royalty = Zionism = Freemasonry = Communism, why did our Royals allow their cousins the Romanov's to perish?
Are our Royals in thrall to the Rothschilds? Or in league with them? When the Queen talks about 'dark forces' are these the same that Dr Kelly of B'Nai Brith talked about?
...For example that 8-13 million for Cambodia seems to be rather stretched....
you do surprise me
i know you are a supporter of the myth that 6 million jews were murdered by the nazis even though there were not 6 million jews on the whole continent of europe at the time
yet you use the exact same argument to deny other holocausts
so you choose to deny holocausts unless theu support your politics
I actually slightly agree with you which is surprising because 99.9% of what you have ever said is total garbage. But yes 8-13 million is a high number. Estimates of the number of dead range from 1.7 to 2.3 million out of a population of around 7 million
But in the same context you must now realise that your often spouted 6 million number is a ficticious and impossible number too. _________________
I think the west is utterly infiltrated by a communist 5th column seeking to fulfil the NWO agenda of the jew Mordechai aka Marx. I also think that Marx was probably promoted by Rothschild. Collectivisn collects everything and hands it over to the elite.
Every society since we left caves has an elite and has had one so far.
If Rothschild organised revolutions to hand power to an elite why bother if they already had the power. This is a logical illogicality of the magnitude that a building can collapse for no apparent reason. Stalin was the son of an undeducated shoemaker. He was no elite individual. Neither was Mao. They became the elite. Becoming an elite is slightly different from being born into it or being given the position.
The main relationship Marx had to Rothschilds was the relationship a hanged man has to his rope. The other was that they were Jewish. To imply one was working for the other is absurd. Maybe you think because Marx wrote Capital you think he supported it. Maybe you also assume McCarthy was fighting for freedom when he was locking people up on trumped up charges.
...For example that 8-13 million for Cambodia seems to be rather stretched....
you do surprise me
i know you are a supporter of the myth that 6 million jews were murdered by the nazis even though there were not 6 million jews on the whole continent of europe at the time
yet you use the exact same argument to deny other holocausts
so you choose to deny holocausts unless theu support your politics
I actually slightly agree with you which is surprising because 99.9% of what you have ever said is total garbage. But yes 8-13 million is a high number. Estimates of the number of dead range from 1.7 to 2.3 million out of a population of around 7 million
But in the same context you must now realise that your often spouted 6 million number is a ficticious and impossible number too.
You know - when I wrote that post I kind of wondered if someone would make that very same daft argument. Why am I not surprised it was you, dear Stelios.
It is perfectly consistent to dispute one set of genocide figures and not question another. Or since you dny the Holocaust happened, maybe I should suggest you should think the Cambodian genocide was 'myth' too? The GIM figure is apparently plucked from thin air with no hint of corroborating evidence. Whether or not you question the amount of people who died in the Holocaust, only a fool would suggest these figures lack an evidence base. I don't necessarily think 6 million died - estimates vary from 5 to in excess of 6 million, and I lack the expertise to settle on any exact figure. I would question that the 5+ million figure is either 'ficticious' or 'impossible' - I seem to recall you were recently touting some dumb straw man argument about census figures., so I can understand how you might be confused.
But - hey - we agree on something! Just the other day I agreed with Rodin, too...there may be hope for our poor lost souls yet. _________________ It's a man's life in MOSSAD
By the way
we just got a staff puppy and the 4 cats seem to have taken a dislike to it.
At every oportunity they hiss at it and threaten it.
Do u think it is possible for dogs and cats to live in the same home?
The puppy is very clean and playful but i am not sure if we will be able to keep it. _________________
It is perfectly consistent to dispute one set of genocide figures and not question another.
Consistent??
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Or since you deny the Holocaust happened, maybe I should suggest you should think the Cambodian genocide was 'myth' too?
He denies "The Holocaust" happened?? I have heard him say the figures are too high but why is ANY questioning of "The Holocaust" interpreted/distorted into denial it occured at all? Is that an accident on your part? Seems to happen a lot.
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Whether or not you question the amount of people who died in the Holocaust, only a fool would suggest these figures lack an evidence base.
Saying it ad nauseum does not make it so. Already we have seen a memorial reduced from over 4 million to less than half that because its claims were investigated. Many other claims are highly dubious as well and only a fool believes something without examining the evidence. Much of the evidence does not stand up to scrutiny. That millions of Jews died in WW2 is a fact. That they were systematically exterminated or died in disproportionately greater numbers than say Poles or Russians or many other groups of people is very questionable, and anyone who does raise questions gets short shrift and can even be imprisoned. Almost as good as an admission of fraud.
Rodin
you really must stop confusing your readers
Jews and Zionists are two seperate and different things.
I have nothing against international Jewry and i think that the Jewish religion is a force for good in the world.
However i vehemently oppose Zionism and see it as the root cause for all of the worlds troubles over the last 100 years.
please stop using the J word as it wrong do continue using the Z word
there is a book called THE SEVENTH MILLION: THE ISRAELIS AND THE HOLOCAUST
by Tom Segev, Haim Watzman
trust me by the time our kids are adults the number will have gone up from 6 million to 8 maybe 10.
When i was at school the number used to be 4 million.
But then the extortion started and by the time Volkswagen and BMW were forced to pay billions the figure had been increased to presumably increase the payout.
Zionism financed Hitler. Rockefeller and JP Morgan
Zionists blocked the evacuation of Jews and blocked the granting of visas
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The British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed. On December 17, 1942 both houses of the British Parliament declared its readiness to find temporary refuge for endangered persons. The British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany. This motion received within two weeks a total of 277 Parliamentary signatures. On Jan. 27, when the next steps were being pursued by over 100 M.P.'s and Lords, a spokesman for the Zionists announced that the Jews would oppose the motion because Palestine was omitted.
By the way
we just got a staff puppy and the 4 cats seem to have taken a dislike to it.
At every oportunity they hiss at it and threaten it.
Do u think it is possible for dogs and cats to live in the same home?
The puppy is very clean and playful but i am not sure if we will be able to keep it.
Ooh more stuff to reply to, but no time now - and this is actually important; Cats are involved.
We started with one cat and now have four. Each introduction has involed 1-2 weeks of hissy fits, but has settled down to tolerance and even friendliness. There is no reason cats and dogs can't live together - they frequently do - but it's probably made harder by the strange dog smell that will probably be threatening and scary. The main thing is, the cats must feel they are in charge. If the dog does not challenge them, they should calm down once they are used to it. It's just that right now they feel like you would if I came to live with you, disruping your happy routine with my vegtables, left-anarchist polemic and disgusting personal habits. If they're just hissing at and threatening it, that sounds like it's actually not going all that badly. Cats hate new feline/canine housemates at first as their factory setting.
You could try keeping them in separate rooms for a few days and keep transferring items between the two, particularly bedding, as it helps if their scents start to mingle and the new scent becomes familiar.
Watch out if your cats are wanderers as there is the slim chance they will simply leave if they feel too threatened and are very independently minded.
You can get pheremone plug-ins from the vets for about a tenner that release 'happy hormones' that can work wonders in temporaily calming them down. They do ones with both cat and dog pheremones. _________________ It's a man's life in MOSSAD
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: THE POWER AND AIMS OF INTERNATIONAL JEWRY
rodin wrote:
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The below given report is a U.S. War Department investigation and evaluation of issues generated by Jewish power. It was compiled in August 1919 and given SECRET classification until 1973.
A hard copy of this document may be obtained from U.S. National Archives in Washington DC, - its number is 245-1.
This analysis is given credibility in that it comes from declassified US documents. I am just reading it now, but think it is likely one of the better sources of information.
Rodin
you really must stop confusing your readers
Jews and Zionists are two seperate and different things.
I have nothing against international Jewry and i think that the Jewish religion is a force for good in the world.
However i vehemently oppose Zionism and see it as the root cause for all of the worlds troubles over the last 100 years.
please stop using the J word as it wrong do continue using the Z word
To be fair to Rodin, the term Jewry in the title of this thread is taken from the report that he refers to so the failure to make this distinction (which I agree it is essential to do) lies with the author of the report
1) Zionism - there are a disproportionate number of Jews or Zionists in control of our filthy lying media. There are lists that prove this. To argue otherwise is to lose credibility as a seeker of truth.
Now no argument from me that the mainstream media is highly controlled and systematically lies and distorts the truth and that many of the people who have most influence (the owners and senior editors) knowingly participate in this deception. Here we are talking about a handful of media barons and it is true that many of them are openly supportive of Israel and zionism
However great care needs to taken in what evidence is presented to illustrate this. I know the lists to which you refer to. They are proof of nothing. Listing the people who work in the media who happen to be jewish proves absolutely nothing and could very easily be interpretted by itself as being anti-jewish. Something I know you would not wish to be seen as since we have discussed this before.
To show a pro-Israeli, pro-zionist bias in the mainstream western media that we both agree undoubtedly exists, it is best to point to where the real influence lies, right at the very top and illustrate this with the hundreds of examples that exist where the MSM fail to challenge the attrocities of the Israeli state. For example in the recent coverage of the 40th anniversary of the 6 day war, I spotted zero coverage of USS Liberty save for the excellent documentary Down in the Water tucked away on BBC4
I've said this before but it would not surprise me in the least if odious anti-jewish websites (such as jewwatch) are actually the work of the ADL and the powers behind zionism. Divide and rule, control both sides. You know the story.
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