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Justin 9/11 Truth Organiser
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 500 Location: Cumbria / Yorkshire Dales
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: MP Miss Widdecombe responds!!! |
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In response to the recent letter sent by myself, Ian and Annie to all MPs, using my home postal address as a contact address, we received this breathtaking and appalling reply from her PA. 1984 is definitely here!
Have a look at our original letter and then look at the response:
http://911truthcampaign.net/mpletter.php
Quote: | I write on behalf of Miss Widdecombe who would like to thank you for your letter, which was received on 19th June, 2007.
Miss Widdecombe is grateful to you for having taken the time to write to
her. Unfortunately, she is bound by a strict Parliament convention
which precludes one Member of Parliament from entering into detailed
correspondence with another Member's constituents. It would therefore
be inappropriate for her to write to you in detail.
I am sorry for what must be a disappointing reply, but please rest
assured this is not through lack of interest on her behalf, she must
abide by the rules. If you would like to discuss this issue further I
do suggest you contact your own MP; Tim Farron.
Yours sincerely
Kelly Suthern
Parliamentary Researcher |
Don't worry, she will be getting a reply! _________________ Connect to Infinite Consciousness - enjoy the ride! |
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Snowygrouch Validated Poster
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 628 Location: Oxford
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Thats absolute B*****KS about being bound by regulation.
Norman Baker met me in his office in Portcullis House and I`m a LONG way from being one of his constitudnts!
She is lying; pretty poor attempt too.
C. _________________ The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist
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karlos Validated Poster
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 2516 Location: london
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:50 am Post subject: |
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No she is not misleading you.
The rules are you have to deal with your own MP as they are not allowed to tread on anyone elses toes.
The only time when this changes is if an MP has a particular interest or responsibility.
EG: I wrote to TIM YEO who is MP for Suffolk. But he did indeed engage in replying solely because what i wrote to him about was a complaint about Ken Livingstone. Tim Yeo is chairman of the parliamentary committee for Transport Pollution. He agreed to present my letter to the parliamentary committee next time it sat.
so you see if you wrote to Anne Widdecombe about a subject she is personally involved with the she will reply and take up the case. Norman Baker is involve in the Kelly case so he will accept correspondence from any constituancy.
The other protocol is if you write to a minister. They must reply if it falls withing their remit.
So truthers must write to their local MP their local MEP and assembly members only. In addition they may write to say the minister for fatherland security and possibly MPs who have expressed certain leanings such as Michael Meecher as an example. But rather than write about solely 911 we must link it in with the connective issues such as the war in Iraq/Afghanistan and the war on terror and 7/7 and illegal use of Depleted Uranium. By showing the MP that 911 was the trigger and excuse for all that followed we can gain a better response and justify the MP taking up the challange. _________________
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Surely when any national campaign wishes to lobby parliament it is not a requirement that those signing the letter on behalf of the campaign be resident in an MPs constituency before they can seek their support?
Are you saying this same rule applies to other national campaigns such as Make Poverty History or No2ID? And how would Ms Widdecombe's office know where the signatories live? We don't say. So for all they know we do live in her constituency. No, this is a wholly lame attempt to duck the issue. |
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karlos Validated Poster
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 2516 Location: london
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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There is a parliamentary protocol that one MP does not interfere in the constituancy affairs of another sitting MP
An MP will only overide this tradition if they have an interest.
If you wrote to Widdecombe about converting to Catholicism she might well respond but otherwise she has no obligation to respond other than folow the parliamentary protocols. _________________
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ian neal Angel - now passed away
Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 3140 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:06 am Post subject: |
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But this is not a constituency affair.
It is a letter from a national campaign about an issue of national and international importance. It is not about a local matter such as introducing speed humps in my neighbourhood or the like
We are not asking her to intervene in local matter of relevance only to another MP so I don't think the protocol you mention applies. She is just wriggling and evading. |
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blackcat Validated Poster
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 2376
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Ian Neal - Ms Widdicombe is a Tory and can therefore do no wrong in the eyes of Stelios. She is beyond any criticism. |
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flamesong Major Poster
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 1305 Location: okulo news
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I live in Blackpool and my local MP (Gordon Marsden) before the Iraq war lived in Brighton. He refused to correspond with people from neighbouring constituencies so we planned to take a delegation of constituents down to Brighton with a video camera but, unsurprisingly, a lack of finances was an obstruction - it's a long way to Brighton from Blackpool.
But, to make a point, though, there must be a 9/11 truther who lives in Maidstone and The Weald. Beat her/them at her/their own game. |
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Pikey Banned
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1491 Location: North Lancashire
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | If you would like to discuss this issue further I
do suggest you contact your own MP; Tim Farron |
Justin supported by the Cumbria 911 group have written and attended Lib Dem MP Farron surgeries as a group on several occasions since April 2005 to discuss 911, 7/7 and the war on our freedom. He has been provided with all the necessary information and facts to merit his serious consideration.
He was even provided with a few 911 related questions to raise in parliament.
MPs obviosly dont interact or discuss things between themselves or they consistently stonewall the subject and act in a spineless fashion.
It will be interesting to see if MP Tim Farron attends the William Rodriguez
public presentation at Grange ver Sands in Cumbria on Thursday 5th July.
Any 911 activist in Anne Widecombe's constituency care to play the game by its rules and write to her and put the ball back in her court. And of course let us know here what she has to say. _________________ Pikey
Peace, truth, respect and a Mason free society
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karlos Validated Poster
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 2516 Location: london
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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ian neal wrote: |
Are you saying this same rule applies to other national campaigns such as Make Poverty History or No2ID? And how would Ms Widdecombe's office know where the signatories live? We don't say. So for all they know we do live in her constituency. No, this is a wholly lame attempt to duck the issue. |
I am not apologising for widdecombe. But if 911 truth WAS a better known national campaign MPs might give us the time of day.
The address of the letter's author would indicate if she was duty bound to investigate or not. As she is not bound to respond and as she probably is not a good choice being an extremely establishement MP. Remember she became a catholic because she was AGAINST women priests. I hardly think she will support 911 truth or muslim rights or anything else like.
Better to choose MPs like Glenda Jackson who will always accept your call and will always write despite being in a different constituancy.
The Plaid Cymru and SNP and possibly Jeremy Corbyn, Sarah Teather, Frank Field, Michael Meecher, Iain Dale, Simon Hughes would probably be also be worth aiming for. As well as candidates like Yvonne Ridley. London assembly member Damian Hockney might be worth a shot too regarding an inquiry into 7/7 _________________
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kbo234 Validated Poster
Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 2017 Location: Croydon, Surrey
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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I also sent this letter to my local MP (Croydon Central). I haven't received and do not expect to receive a reply because it is asking him to put his standing within his own party (Conservative) at some small risk.
Actually I have put the 9/11 information to his face and handed him DVD's that I know he has watched. The fellow will say anything he thinks you want to hear off the record but if ever you come across a line of any sort, his is one arse you definitely won't find on it. |
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karlos Validated Poster
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 2516 Location: london
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Andrew Pelling asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what the total cost has been of the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
So i would presume he is slightly anti war.
But you have done a good job.
At least you know that he knows the truth and one day when the subject becomes more mainstream or when he becomes more bolder he will raise the subject in parliament. _________________
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spiv Validated Poster
Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 483
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: Keep up the pressures... |
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Never mind, just keep up the pressures on these people, it will take time. Three weeks ago I sent an invite to all our Cornish MP's to come and hear William Rodriguez talk in Cornwall last Sunday. Three replied with apologies, and Matthew Taylor (MP Truro) and Colin Breed (MP East Cornwall) didn't even give us the decency of an apology.
Mind you, you should have seen the utter contempt for these MP's in the eyes of the audience when I told them.
So just keep it up. Once these gutless MP's realise the growth of the movement, and once the understanding dawns that many ordinary folks, once having seen the evidence, also become skeptical of the official 911 conspiracy theory, then these same people who cannot see the obvious (much like Nelson put the telescope to his blind eye and stated "I can't see any ships") will be falling over to distance themselves from Blair, Bush and their lies, illegal wars and other crimes. |
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