Alleged Car Bomb in London's Haymarket

[Roger the Horse]

So no-one appears to have heard much and some people thought it was a movie set. Probably closer to the truth than they imagined. Our steady diet of fear is increasing as we've had helicopters buzzing round for the last couple of hours accompanied by police sirens.

BBC Website

Car bomb discovery: Eye-witnesses
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252730.stm



Police disabled a car bomb in central London which was found to be loaded with nails and petrol. People living and working nearby have described the scene.
Officers carried out a controlled explosion after reports of a suspicious vehicle parked in Haymarket shortly before 0200 BST.

The area was cordoned off as forensic experts examined what they described as a "potentially viable explosive device".

Local resident Angela Coster, who lives in Haymarket, told the BBC she found out about the bomb from television news.

"We're in a residential block in Haymarket - it seems strange that there's 18 flats in the block and not one person was woken up. It's kind of off-putting in a way," she said.

People are just having a look and obviously wanting to know how they can get to where they're going

Sonja Bakkes

Ms Coster said a police officer could not tell her whether she would be able to return home after work.

"He had no idea whether we'd be able to get back in or not... if the blue tarp is still there I don't think I'll feel very safe," she said.

Another eye-witness Sonja Bakkes said that most people in the area seemed "very blasé" about the situation.

"People are just having a look and obviously wanting to know how they can get to where they're going but everyone's very calm. No one's overly excited.

"Everyone's going to work as usual... I don't think people really know what's going on."


'Movie set'


Alexander Aragon, who lives 100m from Tiger Tiger nightclub, where the suspicious car was found, decided to stay home after police told him that if he left his building he may not be allowed to return.

"Everything's dead quiet," he told the BBC News website. "The best way to describe it, like my wife said, is it's like the movie 28 Days Later." "

He said police were patrolling the area, but by midday they had removed one of the cordons near his block.

Yoo Na Lee, a tourist from Korea, was at the site with her boyfriend and was taking pictures of what she believed was a movie set.

"We thought a Hollywood star was here and it was a movie scene," she said. "We did not know it was the news."

Anxious

Local resident Alan Bassett said that police had surrounded every exit to his apartment building as he left for work in the morning.

"No-one attempted to evacuate us out of the flat as far as I'm aware. They're very anxious not to let me go back into my flat now," he said.

"If I hadn't put the BBC on this morning I'd have had no idea what was going on at all."

Robert Hoadley, who manages many of the landmark buildings in the area - including The Trocadero, London Pavilion and Lillywhite's - told the BBC the bomb was found at a busy time of day in that part of town.

"This time of the morning you've got a lot of bus routes going down past there, I think the number 38 bus - one of the main bus routes into Victoria goes past there - so that's certainly where I saw the barriers up and the screens up from the back of the police cordon at the Lillywhite's end of Jermyn Street," he said.

[GazeboflossUK]

Police have stopped a bus in Park Lane now.

Park Lane closed, suspect vehicle.

This could be an all day TV news assault.

[Roger the Horse]

2 helicopters hovering now, one over Piccadilly and one over Oxford street. We must really be in danger!

[GazeboflossUK]

Yep, they have closed down Oxford Street I hear...

Something suspect about an open-top bus.

Thing is, everything is going to be accpeted as suspicious.

[Roger the Horse]

I believe a lot of tourists go on those open top buses. Tourists are often foreign. Foreigners want to destroy our freedom. Makes as much sense as anything else in this caper.

[Roger the Horse]

Latest from BBC -


A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said that Park Lane was closed at Marble Arch to Hyde Park Corner and a 200m cordon put in place.

It would also affect part of Oxford Street and people were being asked to leave the street but were not initially being evacuated from buildings in the area, said the spokeswoman.

Sources close to the investigation said that the Park Lane closure is linked to the discovery of a vehicle at an underground car park.

It is also believed to be linked to the investigation into the Haymarket car bomb.

At the moment it is not known if the vehicle at Park Lane contains a device.

All this is apparently happening just up the road so going to have a look.

[levin]

From the Daily Mail:

[i]A bar worker in Lower Regent Street said today: "I have been told there was a Mercedes driving along Haymarket at around 1.30am when the driver swerved and hit some bins outside Tiger Tiger.

"The driver then got out and legged it. The bouncers had a look at the car and they found gas cylinders and nails in the boot. And that's when they called the police." [/i]

Now, I'm no bomb expert, but don't the bits have to be connected together? If bouncers opened the boot and had a look... I can barely believing I'm even making this point...

Is a man driving a car into a bin (having the presence of mind to leave all his doors noticeably open before running away), with a couple of patio gas cylinders and bag of nails in the boot justification for cranking up the terror alert and filling the skies with spook helicopters... ?

Of course it is - "I am free... to do what they tell me... I am free... to do what they tell me... "

[Roger the Horse]

Oxford street is pretty normal. Park Lane and streets leading to it closed off. Doesn't appear to be any sense of urgency anywhere though. The London Papers headline is 'Car Bomber Bid to Kill 1,700 Clubbers'. Goes on about suspected Al Qaeda terrorist. Says 'a bomb disposal unit was called to the scene after nearby ambulancemen spotted smoke in the car'. The London Lite leads with 'The Ladies Night Bomb'. Goes on to say ' a silver Mercedes swerved into some bins beside the road before it stopped around 1.30. The driver walked away. Security staff at Tiger Tiger became suspicious and looked into the car and then phoned the police.'
2 very different versions of events.
They are linking it to the so called 'Blueswater bombers plan to blow up the 'slags' in the Ministry of Sound nightclub'.

[Long Tooth]

[Craig W]

This is a little montage of comments from a few places that I have plagiarised and stitched together into a mock press release.

[levin]

"A British government official told FOX News that a number of people "were seen making their way away from the car,"

Phew, good thing FOX is on the case.

"Sky News reported that police were focusing on a vehicle in an underground parking lot and that there was a link to the explosives-packed car. A remote-controlled robot was being used to inspect the vehicle."

Get out of there, Gordon, it could be a bomb!!

[Annie]

BBC 6 O'clock News is a wonderful programme. They just said that "CCTV will help this investigation just as it did with the 7/7 bombers"!

Hmmm.

Plus, why on earth are the journos not asking why there was an intelligence vacuum YET AGAIN?

[levin]

Any thoughts on the origins of today's events, Annie?

[Dogsmilk]

An eyewitness said on radio 4 that she saw the car and it had all its doors wide open and the headlights on. It wasn't clear if this was before or after the police arrived. But why were the headlights on? I assume coppers worried about a bomb wouldn't be mucking around with the headlights. But why would a bomber leave them on?

[Briaman]

This is a hypothesis :

An illegal worker with an old merc was asked by his boss to take a gas cannister and some other bits and pieces to a building site on the other side of London. He chucks the stuff into his car, plonks the gas cannister onto the back seat and sets off.

Halfway through London, as the driver's going around a corner, the cannister tips off the seat and lands on its head. The jolt jars the valve open and the cannister begins leaking into the car. The driver tries to reach back to grab the cannister but can't drive the car and fix the cannister at the same time. He stops the car, jumps out, heaves the canniter out and drops it down behind the car while he tries to fix it.

All of this draws the attention of onlookers. The man, fearing deportion, panics and runs off. The onlookers call the police and report an abandoned car that appears to be full of smoke (actually gas from the cannister). The police, quite correctly, call the bomb squad. The media gets wind of the bomb-squad being called and race to be the first to inform the public.

With so much media attention, the police don't want to look as if they are a) over-reacting, or b) not taking security seriously, so they report the presence of 60 litres of petrol (2/3 of a tank in an S class merc), a gas cannister and some nails. Various unconnected ministers and experts rush to get their names in the press and the press races to get newsworthy quotes.

And so another terror incident is born.

[Long Tooth]

[conspiracy analyst]

90 day detention without trial is on the agenda.
The 'right' climate has to be created.
Just like climate change justifies ever more punitive taxes and loss of services so a climate of terror justifies ever more repressive measures.

The racist nature of this campaign is so blatant that the Rothermere press have printed pictures of discos and bars implying muslims want to blow them up and that a terror plot of enormous proportions was averted.

If they continue along this path ...tourism will go down the pan.
How long will all businesses put up with it?

[Dogsmilk]

Nice to see the Times staying calm and restrained

[TonyGosling]

Please gear up to phone in to five live tonight - sort out 2 or 3 central points about todays blast and terrorism in general. Use your freedom to phone in before it goes for ever......
Meanwhile.... looks like this morning's fake London bomb has been combined with a block on publishing to the pisspoor Indymedia site. Both the London and the UK wide sites report this error this evening - I tried 15 or so times over 10 minutes or so.

The best three or four postings have also been hidden, what a**holes!
1. 911 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/06/374639.html
2. The Shortwave Report 6/29/07 ¡Listen Globally!
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/06/374642.html
3. 911 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/06/374636.html

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[dontbelievethehype1970]

Radio 4 latest news bulletin 8.00pm Fri 29 Jun 2007
Peter Power from Visor Consultants comments on the bomb plot today
introduced as: "A counter terrorism expert"

I have recorded the 8.00pm BBC News bulletin, if anyone would like to hear it.

Peter Powers' company was running a counter terrorism exercise at the tube stations targeted in the 7-7 London bombings on that very same day.
See ITN News clip here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JKvkhe3rqtc

See also
BBC On this day 1984 archive.
Peter Power gets himself into some terrible scrapes doesnt he?
He was also trapped on the tube train at Kings Cross during the 1984 Kings Cross Tube Station Fire.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness/november/23/newsid_3227000/ 3227456.stm

BBC Search on "Peter Power".
http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?scope=all&edition=d& q=peter+power

Wikipedia Entry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Power_(policeman)

[Emmanuel]

Thanks TRUTH for your BBC streaming video tip.
Im watching now with disbelief.
10 uniformed boys in blue analysing the pavement and lamposts for clues.
Tommorows morning newspaper headlines:
Dont let the Bombers beat us
Terror comes to London

With the words Baghdad and Al Quaida neatly fitted in too.
We need to take some action.
Artifical flooding to look forward to next

[rodin]

Alleged indeed Tony! If you are gonna change the headline tell it like it is. False Flag Fake Car Bombs...

Interesting that Al Ukqaeda have to keep re-inventing the whee... er IED. No sooner than they discover the devastating chapati flower SADM, it's off to liquids and planes. Now gas canisters and nails. Shall we start a sweepstake on what their next devilish munition will be? Rhubarb and custard is my entry.

Haven't had such a variety show since the Holocaust...

(Lampshades, soap, blue dye in the eyes etc)

[rodin]

[Long Tooth]

[Emmanuel]

Oh our hero!

[rodin]

[paul wright]

Cheers mates.Just copied and pasted the text heavy contents of this thread real lazy into Indymedia here
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/06/374728.html
Probably reads mad. Let's see what they do with it
Sorry for the non-attribution and that I might have missed some valuable comments
Been busy all day so this is my late contribution

[Leiff]

Hang on, a posh car with smoke inside, a nightclub nearby and a man seen running away - was it George Michael on the razz again?

[marky 54]

the only thing i want to flag up that made all this seem suspious to me is the fact the bbc were reporting 60 litres of petrol being found.

i continued to watch and they went over to scotland yard for a press confrence, the guy doing the press confrence mentioned they had found petrol but was unaware of the amount because they had not had a chance to measure it yet.

so why the hell was the bbc reporting 60 litres?

it proves the news is no longer factual reporting on facts only, they just speculate and report assumtions that fit the agenda.

i don't have links to this is purely of the top of my head and is what made me think that the news reports were just speculating or pre planned to coincide with the bombs being found.

as you have all shown already the mainstream news is not reporting facts, just speculation and assumptions which mislead the public, which is obviously properganda to fit an agenda for public opinon or public acceptance of laws that will be passed as a result.

[karlos]