'The Masterminds Behind this Great Conspiracy'

[rodin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myron_C._Fagan

[blackcat]

McCarthy was as bad as the people he feared. Neither McCarthyism nor Communism is desirable as both are extremist and freedom crushing.

[rodin]

BC

You said recently - and I paraphrase -

[conspiracy analyst]

on the same level you are a pro-american apologist of the worst sort.
If the Soviets wanted to take over the world as the cold war propagandists argued at the time, Churchill being foremost, then why did they sit down and divide Europe up?

The Soviet Armed forces were in Berlin first, were in the Balkans first and had serious popular support both in Italy and France.

Why did they not ask their local puppet masters to take and assume power?

Instead they opted for the handing over of weapons, or they told their CP's to take part in coalition governments.

After Dollar imperialism became a de facto fact the Soviets closed off Easter Europe.

The concept of 'commies under your bed' widespread in the cold war period is slowly being re-branded by generalised ...jew bashing and now rehabilitating McCartyism of maybe he was right ilk. Soon we will be told chasing ...muslims for 'terrorist' offences is probably the right policy as this bore fruits... in Ireland!

[blackcat]

[rodin]

[TonyGosling]

reality check

"I refuse to hand over this sovereign nation to thirteen unelected bankers"

Thatcher was removed because she wouldn't sign the Maastericht treaty - replaced with robot mason Major - who did.

period

[rodin]

Musical interlude

(demo version of forthcoming album track)

http://www.contrarianthinker.com/1975.mp3

[blackcat]

[rodin]

[blackcat]

[rodin]

Wilson was a total slime bag. Labour (sponsored by - let's call them communists - in trade unions etc) were elected post war. The media as usual made all the difference. They dumped Churchill (who's Black Dog was doubtless in part because he was privy to 'dark forces') as a thank you for winning the war for the Soviets, because he drew the line at kicking the Palestinians out of their homeland. You're only as good as your last favour, see?

Seems like some people MI6 were onto Wilson. Sorta like McCarthy was onto the emerging Ziocons, way ahead of the pack.

Most of the above pure speculation BTW.

[blackcat]

[rodin]

Hmm... I say speculation and you say 'not when you post it?'

Don't you think it odd that the electorate - having just 'won the war' with the most charismatic leader of the 20th century were so quick to dump him? That never made sense to me until I found out

1) The power of the press
2) Churchill stood in the way of the creation of Israel

Fact - the National Health Service.
>> Compare then and now - fitness levels, cancer rates, heart disease etc. Of course now we have IVF..
Fact - Massive slum clearance and millions of affordable state built rentable homes instead of private slum landlords.
>> Demolition of perfectly good stone and brick houses to be replaced with soviet-style concrete monstrosities, fuelled by no-bid contracts and Masonic handshakes. Then there was this vile creature providing a bridge between crime and the government
http://www.mynottinghill.co.uk/nottinghilltv/revealed7rachman.htm
Fact - Child Benefit payments helping the most poverty stricken families.
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[blackcat]

You sound like someone who believes we once lived in a golden age where everyone was healthy, well housed and "moral". It is bs. The fact some builders took advantage of government housing projects does not take away from the success in housing millions of people. That "perfectly good" houses were destroyed makes no sense - they were slums. Mistakes were made but the vast majority of people were much better housed and for every tower block monstrosity there were a hundred council houses which were a vast improvement on what preceded them How else were millions of people eager to take Thatcher's bribe and buy their state asset at a knock-down price? You cherry-pick the worst examples and submit them as the norm. As for abortion I suggest you watch "Vera Drake" to get some perspective on this. The fact we have been freed from the worst excesses of censorship (still much less so than most of Europe) and some have chosen to abuse this by publicising filth is not a reflection on the law makers but of those who always take liberty beyond license. The other social problems you mention exist in much worse degrees in countries which do not have our generous welfare. Better to live alone than be homeless. Better to be a single mother than suffer the abuse of a bullying husband, it is not child benefit that causes it.

[karlos]

[blackcat]

I have never voted Labour in my life and no matter how many times you say it you will not make me into a Labour supporter. The council house building programme was done by both Labour and Conservative administrations and was in general a vast improvement on what preceded it. Only people with no knowledge of what it was like prior to the fifties think otherwise, and the evidence for the success of council housing lies in the fact that millions of people were so happy with their council homes they bought them. To point to the tower blocks which were failures is to single out the minority as being the typical which they were not.

[Dogsmilk]

I think filth like Vera Drake should be banned. Whatever I may or may not think about abortion, the blunt fact is women should not have the right to choose and if these heartless harridans insist on exerting autonomy over their own bodies, they should make do with an illegal coat hanger operation down some dark back street and be glad of it. But like right wing American fundamentalist Christians, I think what actually happens to that child when it's born is of little interest. The agonising and tears I may have personally witnessed women go through when making such a decision is just a cynical front adopted by these wanton strumpets. As a man, it is my duty to tell these harlots what's right and the fact there will always be back street abortions where they are not legally sanctioned is neither here nor there. Same with the whores; 'oldest profession' or not, a game of cat'n'mouse with potential psychopaths on badly lit streets teaches them a valuable lesson about life.
It's like all this obscene literature and film etc. Viewing footage of human beings copulating is a crime against God and nature. If God had meant us to go naked, He wouldn't have invented underpants. Crude film displaying an initially intriguing story about a plumber turning up to fix the boiler for a housewife, accompanied by some charming 'retro' music, rapidly degenerates in the kind of acts I could never have imagined. I can accept in the opening reels you can actually see her ankles - they should stop there. It brings a shudder to me to think of it as Mrs Dogsmilk and myself pull ourselves into our stout hessian bedfrocks. All the bestial acts of Sodom are on display for all to see; this is the direct responsibility of the Labour Party. Everyone knows the script to Deep Throat was written by Neil Kinnock. If it weren't for Labour, we never would have moved beyond Confessions of a Window Cleaner and No Sex Please We're British.
The blunt fact is young people simpy did not have sex before there was a Labour Government. My mother remembers young girls off her street simply vanishing, she presumes they were pregnant. This was the way to do it. A coat hanger in an alley, married off to the local butcher or put in a mental institution. It's a victory for commen sense! some of these kids today are even declaring they're...they're...homosexuals! God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve! In my day, they were soundly whipped and then put in front of big screens and given electric shocks every time a picture of a fella flashed up. Bring back Clause 28! Let's drive more young gays to depression, self harm and suicide; that'll teach 'em!
Young people are not sexualised by cynical marketing strategies attempting to mould them into branding obsessed, consumer fetishistic faux adult role modelling that want to make them obsessed with clothing, body image and desirability as soon as they're out of nappies. It is the responsibility of the Labour Party. Whereas the Tories gave us Swap shop, Tiswas was a malevolent Labour Party vehicle to promote Socialism. The rot spread from there.
And these violent films! After Tony Benn invented the Mondo genre in the 1960s, with it's use of actual atrocity footage in thinly disguised documentary format, it just went down from there. I grew up on a diet of the Evil Dead, Driller Killer and Basket Case (all written and directed by Michael Foot) - I now have twelve heads in my freezer!!!!!!!
And education! Back in the good old days, only the upper crust got an education. Kept the scum in their place. Now they're all wanting one! But we're damned if we're paying for it! Give 'em a loan! Let them learn to experience debt! At least those Labour fools have kept pace in that department. And as long as we're indoctrinating everyone into the wonders of the corporate world and eroding the humanities, we can live with that.
You couldn't make it up.
We're going to hell in a handcart.

[blackcat]

I now have an image of the froth on Stelios' mouth settling as he reads Dogsmilk's post and agrees with every word as being gospel.

[TonyGosling]

Don't rise to the bait Stelios

Now where were we.........

[rodin]

Back in 1975

http://www.contrarianthinker.com/1975.mp3