Alleged Car Bomb in London's Haymarket

[Mark Gobell]

And since when do ambulance personnel assume the role of bomb disposal experts ?

Why would a paramedic, having allegedly spotted a smoking car, open the car and remove a mobile phone ?

Surely the correct response to a suspicious vehicle is to radio in to notify the police and fire brigade.

[Hannah]

Perhaps they thought someone was in the car and went to help them?

[acrobat74]

This was *not* a bomb.

Period.

Some may want to spin it as a 'bomb', but this doesn't change the fact that it was not.

[BiosBlake]

I agree with Hannah, we should wait to see what comes out in the next few days before jumping to any conclusions. After becoming aware of the truth about 9/11 it is too easy to think that every attempted bombing is another 'false flag' hit.

To me it seems quite likely that this is the result of intended 'home grown blow back terrorism', an expected & needed outcome of our involvement in the war of terror, and certainly of benefit to the establishment to continue implementation of draconian measures.

[Bowery Boy]

Editors !!

The latest attempts to destroy on our freedom, democracy and way of life have been thwarted.
These attacks are clearly the work of Iran-backed Al Qaeda : definitely nothing to do with ID cards, re-inforcing the July 7 - anniversary this week - "suicide bombers" tale or making the spectacle of £100,000-per-year gun-toting automatons on the capital's streets more acceptable.
The plan to destroy Glasgow Airport and surrounding areas was defeated by human error and human ingenuity.
Thankfully, these Arab chappies, with their unlimited cunning and financial resources, had forgotten - as in London - to load the cars with explosives : secondly, they had not foreseen that Glasgow Airport had, cunningly, installed barriers to stop potential foreign bounders driving to the aircraft and blowing up same.
According to an eye-witness, one "bomber", he confronted, was " ... just talking jibberish." I can, already, see conspiracists pouring forth on programming, mind-control, drug-induced .. etc. ..
Gordon Brown has risen to the occasion and, whilst not-yet potential Oscar-winning material, as per the Met's Peter Clarke, the dour Gord will certainly be able to keep the perfectly straight face, necessary, above all else, in these tricky times ahead.

[TonyGosling]

Errr... sorry if I overstepped the mark..... It's only a Nazi agenda being forced on to 60 million people. Much better to apply for a job as a security guard and ignore all the inconsistencies in Friday's story.
Anyway I'm not a Muslim so why should I care if they're being set up for a pogrom by a bunch of fascists. It'll all be water under the bridge one day. Operation Gladio never happened, the Nazis weren't given safe haven in the U.S. and 7/7 and 9/11 were vengence attacks by Muslims. Fox news and Eliza Bullying Manner told me so.
Better keep my stupid trap shut hadn't I... and trust The Federation.

[Mark Gobell]

If the meeju told us that a penguin was driving the jeep would you believe that too ?

[acrobat74]

[BiosBlake]

[Mark Gobell]

Bios your point is a good one.

Evidence free assertions are just hot air.

So, to put us all out of our conspiratorial misery all you need to do is provide some evidence that Al Q actually exists, and then, that Al Q or it's "affiliates" did 30.6 and 1.7

While your at it, provide some evidence that Al Q did 9/11, 7/7, Bali, Madrid, Amman, Mumbai, Heathrow, etc etc etc

[Newspeak International]

[scubadiver]

Apologies if this has already been posted. An ex-CIA Man Exposes Hysteria Of UK Car "Bomb" Terror

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK5-jIfOBjQ

[mason-free party]

ok if the mercedes was stolen lets see if the owner comes forward...noticed they conveniently blacked out all the pictures of the number plate whereas the Glasgow jeep was partially visible

[Long Tooth]

[BiosBlake]

Mark, the idea that Al Qaeda has terrorist cells and affiliates installed in every country responsible for every attack is pure nonsense and a web of lies, 'The Power Of Nightmares' dealt with this misleading assertion put forward by are governments.

So I have to ask, why do you think Al Qaeda should be responsible for these latest attacks?

And why do you want proof that Al Qaeda was responsible for 9/11, you are on a 9/11 Truth website, there is plenty of evidence demonstrating that the US was responsible and NOT Al Qaeda, as is the compelling evidence put forward by David Shayler of 7/7 having been orchestrated by our own government and NOT Al Qaeda.

If these latest attacks were the result of Muslims, then that does NOT automatically make them Al Qaeda or Al Qaeda affiliates, despite the laughably hysterical rants of the media suggesting that it has 'all the hallmarks', see the link posted by scubadiver for how the media have whipped this in to a frenzy.

Or, it could be another government staged attack, either way it's another excuse for the government to tighten its grip on a bewildered public and assign yet more of our civil liberties to the democratic dustbin.

[Dogsmilk]

[GazeboflossUK]

I've almost reached the point where I think that these attacks were far to sloppy for a state sponsored effort.

I was paying attention earlier while watching various news channels and I seemed to get the feeling that the government were jumping on these events and basically using it as if it was their own staged work (as many have suggested). The times of the speeches by government officials just seemed to be off.

I guess this something we all expect and it's a pretty tough position to take when talking to my friends, as many of them assumed I was going to be pointing my finger at the state (and in one way I am). It took me ages to try and describe the methods used by the government/intel. services to basically scare the living s**t out of people.

They have gone way overboard with their rhetoric during these 'attacks' and to say that the government have made a mountain out of a molehill is a huge understatement. Having said that - if events were indeed a real group of weak, little, brainwashed, jihadist types then I fully am against that too, obviously....BUT surely that scenario in-turn does eventually run all the way back to the framework built up by those twatty NWO folk, whom we all despise?

Now, trying to explain this to people is actually harder then you might think.

[Craig W]

A quick thought on the Scottish "attack". Don't know if this has been mentioned already but it struck me as odd:
I read that there were two people in the jeep. Was it meant to be a suicide bomb? If so, is there any precedent for a two-man suicide bombing? Why would you waste two lives in one attack? Did they need to carry a spare?

Regarding the obvious unprofessionalism and whether these were genuine attacks or not: it smells of psyop to me. Surely, no one is stupid enough to be this useless. Are they?

Assuming it isn't a genuine Jihadi attack (are any?): I wonder if the very basic nature of the attacks is meant to mix up the terror meme a little. Keep people off guard and confused as well as scared. I mean, you never know what these nutters might do next! They are not only very clever and highly sophisticated but also absolutely shambolic and totally stupid. Now that is a formidably chameleon-like "enemy"!

Perhaps the perps are a little wary of pulling off too many major psyops like 7/7 because of the danger of arousing public suspicion. Or maybe they are "saving" the next big one for another occasion...

Interesting to note that this technique was even forecast by Sir Ian Blair - we should clearly listen to this man's predictions...

[GazeboflossUK]

[Disco_Destroyer]

Thought I'd add this link to prove what comes around goes around in the nicest possible sence Story just linked back to me from USA via myspace

http://cryptome.org/mi6-garbage.htm

Just a little thought for those that come here saying our attempts are futile

[Craig W]

Good stuff from Craig Murray's blog:
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/weblog.html

[Ravenmoon]

LONDON BOMB 'NOT SCARY ENOUGH', BROWN TELLS MI5
PRIME Minister Gordon Brown has dismissed the latest London bomb scare as "feeble" and "unlikely to frighten the public".

Brown compared MI5 to the cast of 'Police Academy'Mr Brown is understood to be disappointed with MI5's effort, describing it as "half-arsed and transparent".

A source close to Brown said: "The PM wanted to start things off by scaring the absolute, holy * out of people.

"A badly driven Merc with a couple of gas bottles in the back does not cut the mustard.

"We asked for Arabic literature on the passenger seat, a map of Whitehall with big red crosses on it and a huge controlled explosion on live television. Someone will be getting their backside felt for this."

The source added: "We're trying to introduce ID cards, imprisonment without trial and swingeing restrictions on freedom of speech.

"We wouldn't be able to force through new parking regulations on the back of this pile of arse."

Police say they are looking for "a man" in connection with the incident in London's Haymarket.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "Our investigations are currently centred on a man. If you see a man you should react with complete terror and run screaming into the nearest busy shop or pub."

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/london-bomb-%27not-scary-enough %27,-brown-tells-mi5-20070629249/

[acrobat74]

Larry Johnson's (the CIA guy in the video) weblog:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/

[Skeptic]

[paul wright]

What's this I heard this pundit saying on on the BBC news? That this highly educated cadre of terrorist doctors left mobile phones in the London vehicles that contained registered sim cards, thus allowing the police to use computerised mobile phone records to trace the terrorist network quickly to other parts of England, Scotland and now Australia!!!!
Well I've long considered orthodox medical practitioners ill-informed and potentially dangerous to health, but never thought of them as dumber and dumberer.

[Hannah]

'Firstly we are to believe the merc has been driven erratically'
'then we are told it was nicely parked up'

Information like this has come from media outlets before, it is more to do with the journalism involved rather than bad information being put out by the Police or intelligence services. In N Ireland there have been many many instances of this. It doesn't mean they (ie police etc) are trying to put a spin on things to cover a black op or a false flag, it is simply bad or incomplete journalism. Jumping to conclusion about what comes out directly after an incident looks alarmist and it is certainly premature. This did happen after 9/11 and 7/7 but time has passed and too many questions have arisen that cannot be answered but in this case it is too early to tell.

Clearly there has been a cell of AQ operating with the NHS. which is very frightening indeed. Open borders accross the free world coupled with individual freedoms are being abused by these people, and I do believe they are intent on turning the streets of Britain into the streets of Baghdad.
I've said itand read it before on other boards and I will say it again, the Luftwaffe did not cower us neither did the IRA and neither will Islamic terrorists.

In the face of such a threat, the public must remain calm and vigilant, and jumping too soon that this is a false flag by our police and services only plays into the hands of AQ.

[Mark Gobell]

[Hannah]

I am indeed serious, all outrages even failed ones cannot be put down to false flag ops. That is madness. Clearly there is a definite threat to citizens of this country. This happened to us here in N Ireland. This is no idle threat from these people, these attacks may be played down by our friendly ex CIA blogger/commentator, but the fact is these attacks could have killed people. Terrorism is not nice when you have lived through it, and if these people bring terrorism on to the streets of Britain as they were on to the streets of N Ireland and you become affected by it you may see the difference.

I do not believe these attacks are all false flag, 9/11 and 7/7 Yes but not this one, at least not yet.

[Mark Gobell]

I'd say you need to think about the distinction between being earnest and being serious Hannah.

Nobody has even been charged yet.

No trial, no verdict, nothing.

Yet you, along with millions of others I presume, swallow what our highly trustworthy media feed you.

Not only that, you do it instantly without a second thought for any other possibility.

All you are serious about is consuming media stories.

Nothing more.

[Hannah]

That is so untrue, all I have said is that it is not unusual for differing even conflicting stories to come out from media outlets after incidents such as this. I have said this is down to journalism and their sources, not misinformation from police or intelligence services. What I am saying is, it is much too early to judge. The thing is only being put together at the moment, I am saying we do need to wait until the full picture emerges.

This is what happened with 9/11 and 7/7, that is why credence can be given. Jumping too soon can make you look like a fool .