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Prof. Quigley (Tragedy and Hope): the bankers' plot

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Prof. Quigley (Tragedy and Hope): the bankers' plot Reply with quote

Prof. Carroll Quigley was a noted Harvard historian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley

In his book 'Tragedy and hope' he documents, among other things, the plot of the international bankers to control the political systems of countries by controlling their systems of credit.

In my opinion, this is the core issue behind all the false flag terror operations we've been witnessing. This is the beast.

Link to the book (opens .pdf document):
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119975.pdf

Link to related analysis & excerpts:

http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/quig00.htm

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The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.

This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations.

Each central bank sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.

In each country, the power of the central bank rested largely on its control of credit and money supply. In the world as a whole the power of the central bankers rested very largely on their control of loans and the gold flows.

They made agreements on all the major financial problems of the world, as well as on many of the economic and political problems, especially in reference to loans, payments, and the economic future of the chief areas of the globe.

The Bank of International Settlements, B.I.S. is generally regarded as the apex of the structure of financial capitalism whose remote origins go back to the creation of the Bank of England in 1694.

It was set up to be the world cartel of every-growing national financial powers by assembling the nominal heads of these national financial centers.

The commander in Chief of the world system of banking control was Montagu Norman, Governor of the Bank of England, who was built up by
the private bankers to a position where he was regarded as an oracle
in all matters of government and business.

In government, the power of the Bank of England was a considerable restriction on political action as early as 1819 but an effort to break this power by a modification of the bank's charter in1844 failed.

In 1852, Gladstone, then chancellor of the Exchequer and later Prime Minister, declared,

"The hinge of the whole situation was this: the government itself was
not to be a substantive power in matters of Finance, but was to leave
the Money Power supreme and unquestioned."

This power of the Bank of England was admitted in 1924 by Reginald McKenna, who had been Chancellor of the Exchequer, when he,
as Chairman, told the stockholders of the Midland bank,

"I am afraid the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can, and do, create money. And they who control the credit of a nation direct
the policy if Governments and hold in the hollow of their hands the
destiny of the people."

In that same year, Sir Drummond Fraser, vice president of the Institute of Bankers stated,

"The Governor must be the autocrat who dictates the terms upon which alone the Government can obtain borrowed money."

On Sep. 26, 1921, Vincent Vickers, director of the bank, the Financial Times wrote,

"Half a dozen meant the top of the Big Five Banks could upset the whole fabric of government by refraining from renewing Treasury Bills."

Norman had no use for governments and feared democracy. Both
of these seemed to him to be threats to private banking and thus to
all that was proper and precious to human life.
He viewed his life as a kind of cloak-and-dagger struggle with the forces of unsound money which were in league with anarchy and Communism.

When he rebuilt the Bank of England,he constructed it as a fortress prepared to defend itself against any popular revolt. For much of his life, he rushed about the world under the assumed name of "Professor Skinner."

Norman had a devoted colleague in Benjamin Strong, the first governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Strong owed his career to the favor of the Morgan bank.

In the 1920s, they were determined to use the financial power of Britain and the US to force all the major countries of the world to go on the gold standard and to operate it through central banks free from all political control, with all questions of international finance to be settled by agreements by such central banks without interference from governments.

It must not be felt that these heads of the world's chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down.

The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of investment bankers (also called "international" or "merchant" bankers) who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks.

These formed system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret tan that of their agents in the central banks.

This dominance of investment bankers was based on their control over the flows of credit and investment funds in their own countries and throughout the world.

They could dominate the financial and industrial systems of their own countries by their influence over the flow of current funds through bank loans, the discount rate, the rediscounting of commercial debts; they could dominate governments by their control over current government loans and the play of the international exchanges.

Almost all of this power was exercised by the personal influence and prestige men who had demonstrated their ability in the past to bring off successful financial coups, to keep their word, to remain cool in a crisis, and to share their winning opportunities with their associates.

In this system, the Rothschilds had been preeminent during much of the nineteenth century, but, at the end of that century, they were being replaced by J.P. Morgan in New York.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Prof. Quigley (Tragedy and Hope): the bankers' plot Reply with quote

acrobat74 wrote:
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In this system, the Rothschilds had been preeminent during much of the nineteenth century, but, at the end of that century, they were being replaced by J.P. Morgan in New York.[/b]


According to Bill Still in his brilliant documentary 'The MoneyMasters'..... on his death, J P Morgan was discovered to be the owner of only 19% of his own company.....


.......the obvious implication being that he had been a Rothschild agent from day one.

.......rather like the Berezovsky-led Russian oligarch billionaires. They did not originally have the money to buy all the major Russian industries. They were doing their buying on behalf of bankers in the City of London. It is still obvious that Berezovsky and MI6 share a single mission, to undo Putin and regain control of Russia's energy assets.
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A severe Incitement to Disaffection Act in 1934 threatened to
destroy the personal freedoms built up over centuries by making
police searches of homes less restricted and making the simple
possession of material likely to disaffect the armed forces a crime.
For the first time in three generations, personal freedom and civil
rights were restricted in time of peace. The Prevention of Violence
Act of 1939 empowered a secretary of state to arrest without warrant
and to deport without trial.


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If the groups in society who control the savings which are
necessary for progress are the same vested interests who benefit by
the existing way of doing things, they are in a position to defend
these vested interests and prevent progress merely by preventing the
use of surpluses to finance new inventions. The 20th century's
economic crisis was a situation of this type.

This article is full of gems.

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The decisive factor which caused the end of financial capitalism in
Britain was the revolt of the British fleet in 1931 and not the
abandonment of gold six days later. The mutiny made it clear that the
policy of deflations must be ended. As a result, no effort was made to
defend the gold standard.

There was a mutiny??? They've kept that one quiet.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Prof. Quigley (Tragedy and Hope): the bankers' plot Reply with quote

kbo234 wrote:
acrobat74 wrote:
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In this system, the Rothschilds had been preeminent during much of the nineteenth century, but, at the end of that century, they were being replaced by J.P. Morgan in New York.[/b]


According to Bill Still in his brilliant documentary 'The MoneyMasters'..... on his death, J P Morgan was discovered to be the owner of only 19% of his own company.....

.......the obvious implication being that he had been a Rothschild agent from day one.


Good point kbo.
The Money Masters is a very good documentary:
http://www.themoneymasters.com/faqs.htm

I would also very strongly recommend a brand new documentary called Zeitgeist.
Clip:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7LDUad0riI
Entire movie:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zeitgeist is convoluted pretentious rot - just have a look at some of the achievements of this little lot and you'll see the Zionist right is still very much alive and kicking.

Just like Blair, Victor Rothschild was in the Labour party to destroy it.


Rothschild family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rothschild%2C_4th_Baron_Rothschild

Victor Rothschild, 3rd Baron Rothschild
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Mayer_Victor_Rothschild%2C_3rd_ Baron_Rothschild

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
Zeitgeist is convoluted pretentious rot - just have a look at some of the achievements of this little lot and you'll see the Zionist right is still very much alive and kicking.

Just like Blair, Victor Rothschild was in the Labour party to destroy it.


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Could a mod please put this discussion in the Zeitgeist thread? (it's under General right now)
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Hmm, I guess you refer to Part I on religion?

Quite tricky, wasn't it?
I'm not using this part in general (YouTube etc.).

But I found parts II, III on 911, central banks and manufactured wars really tight and powerful.

Would you care to elaborate about your concerns?
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blackcat wrote:
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If the groups in society who control the savings which are
necessary for progress are the same vested interests who benefit by
the existing way of doing things, they are in a position to defend
these vested interests and prevent progress merely by preventing the
use of surpluses to finance new inventions. The 20th century's
economic crisis was a situation of this type.

This article is full of gems.

Quote:
The decisive factor which caused the end of financial capitalism in
Britain was the revolt of the British fleet in 1931 and not the
abandonment of gold six days later. The mutiny made it clear that the
policy of deflations must be ended. As a result, no effort was made to
defend the gold standard.

There was a mutiny??? They've kept that one quiet.


The Invergordon Mutiny of 1931

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
.....Zeitgeist is convoluted pretentious rot - just have a look at some of the achievements of this little lot and you'll see the Zionist right is still very much alive and kicking.



Could you expand on this comment Tony?

I found parts II and III of this film excellent.

The first part, however, that amounts to a dismembering of the 'myth' of Christianity was more difficult. As a Christian (as I know you are yourself Tony) I was shocked by some of the information. The commonality of virgin birth, crucifixion death and resurrection with so many other, more ancient religions was new to me (if the content of this presentation is itself true).

However, it has never been the facts of Jesus life that hold the spell for me but rather his teachings about how we should treat each other and relate to the great mystery with humility.

Anyway, do you think part One was consciously unfair or wicked? I am interested as to why you call the film 'pretentious rot'?
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