The timing of this is has been so crucial. We have Gorden Brown facing his first full day as Prime minister, with the embarrassing situation of facing the problem of commentating on the 3 British soldiers killed in Iraq.
The press had already printed there headlines. Then we have 2 botched bomb attempts in London, how convenient.
It looks to me as if the guys at MI5 decided they had to cook up something sharpish.
Where are all of the images from the hundreds of CCTV cameras. Surely if you wanted to catch so insane mad terrorists you should have there faces all over the media. Have you seen this person, did you see this vehicle, etc. This stinks of 7/7 when it took 3-4 days to produce some dodgy still image from Luton station.
Now we have a attack in Glasgow, but hey, success both perpetrators arrested. This should provide the "security forces" with some major leads into the dark world of Al Qaeda operations in the UK.
The rhetoric in the media is at fever pitch. And it looks to me as they have decided to take it up a notch, turn the screw.
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Carry on Terrorising
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Editors !!
The latest attempts to destroy on our freedom, democracy and way of life have been thwarted.
These attacks are clearly the work of Iran-backed Al Qaeda : definitely nothing to do with ID cards, re-inforcing the July 7 - anniversary this week - "suicide bombers" tale or making the spectacle of £100,000-per-year gun-toting automatons on the capital's streets more acceptable.
The plan to destroy Glasgow Airport and surrounding areas was defeated by human error and human ingenuity.
Thankfully, these Arab chappies, with their unlimited cunning and financial resources, had forgotten - as in London - to load the cars with explosives : secondly, they had not foreseen that Glasgow Airport had, cunningly, installed barriers to stop potential foreign bounders driving to the aircraft and blowing up same.
According to an eye-witness, one "bomber", he confronted, was " ... just talking jibberish." I can, already, see conspiracists pouring forth on programming, mind-control, drug-induced .. etc. ..
Gordon Brown has risen to the occasion and, whilst not-yet potential Oscar-winning material, as per the Met's Peter Clarke, the dour Gord will certainly be able to keep the perfectly straight face, necessary, above all else, in these tricky times ahead.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: 2 Asians caught in Liverpool
saturday/ Sunday morning massive police presence in Liverpool to catch 2 asians connected with Glasgow and London "car bombs".
Just coincidence being Williams next venue--probably.
just waiting for the city centre to be closed Tuesday night!
US security officials received warnings two weeks ago of a possible terror attack against "airport infrastructure or aircraft" in Glasgow, a senior official told ABCNews.com on Saturday.
The intelligence reports also warned that airports and aircraft in the Czech Republic would be the targets of attacks by al-Qaeda terrorists.
An SUV laden with explosive materials went ablaze at Glasgow airport on Saturday after its two occupants, apparently al-Qaeda operatives, crashed it into entrance doors in the main terminal.
The incident occurred a day after police in London defused two cars laden with gas canisters, gasoline and nails in two bustling areas in the capital.
US officials told ABC that the warnings about a possible terror attack in Scotland were kept secret for operational reasons.
US Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the US would not raise the level of alert because there was no specific intelligence pointing to imminent terror attacks in the US.
As if to remind us all, thanks to Blair and his successor Brown, that Scotland was dragged into an unwanted war in the Middle East and north-west Asia, a wannabe terrorist rams Glasgow Airport's doors with a burning Cherokee jeep. Brown's administration gets a chance to exercise its authority, goes into full swing and declares a top level critical alert through Britain. We're all supposed to be on tenterhooks and report each other for "unusual" behaviour.
Preceded by a similar incident in London where an erratically driven Mercedes skidded onto the pavement, knocking down several dustbins, is abandoned by its driver who leaves the headlights on for all to see his was, indeed, unusual behaviour. Quite by coincidence, an ambulance crew which had been called to a nearby club, turns up to notice smoke inside the crashed car and a big green gas can left by its side. On further inspection, it's discovered the car has a large amount of fuel stored in cans and an equally large amount of nails, no exact numbers given in either case.
But it was enough for the MSM's propaganda machine to go into action, assuming that this must be the work of Al Qaeda, mad Islamists etc, etc. This was all confirmed when the driver of the Glasgow Cherokee, his clothes on fire, attacked a policeman shouting, "Allah!". We must assume he wasn't hallucinating.
It's those dastardly Muslim extremists again. Be on alert folks, especially of dark-skinned Asians and similar unsavoury types. Why, even that lady in a burqa entering a bus in Manchester with her children might be a suicide bomber. Better get the Police to take her in charge and strip her down to ensure she isn't wearing a suicide belt! You can never be too sure these days and, anyway, we've been far too easy on these wogs.
Hmm, just days away from the second anniversary of that other false flag, July the Seventh, so who is up to all of this and quite what is their motive?
For starters, if these incidents really were terrorist attacks then they were certainly carried out in the clumsiest possible ways, intended it would seem to draw attention rather than to cause any severe loss of life. Had it exploded, the London Mercedes could have killed or maimed passers-by. But why leave the headlights on? Was the driver really a nice guy who wanted to warn folk that something was wrong or did he panic and forget to switch them off before abandoning the car, yet having the presence of mind to leave a gas canister outside it before running away?
Similarly, the Glasgow driver gets it all wrong, catches fire, runs his jeep against the Airport entrance doors, abandons his vehicle and scarpers. So did he chicken out? Why didn't he ram the doors in order to drive into the main thoroughfare inside to cause maximum havoc? And if he couldn't manoeuvre outside so as to ram the doors at high speed, how come he or his handlers hadn't researched that beforehand?
Which suggests, in both cases, that the drivers had certainly not intended to suicide themselves in a blaze of glory. On the contrary, the behaviour of both suggests they were far too concerned to save their own lives.
No suicide bombers they, trained through mind-control and drugs to accept a gory end. These guys, it seems, were trained to botch up and fail in the missions they were ostensibly seen to be attempting!
Hmm.
Never mind. At least another mission was accomplished, and that was to give the nation the jitters and the police and the government the opportunity to get as heavy as they like. After all, wouldn't they be failing in their duty to not be so? That is their job, to protect us and people expect it.
Well, so we are led to believe. But in the real world, events suggest otherwise. Both the police and the intelligence services are arms of the government and, despite appearances by its wannabe actors, the job of government turns out to be, not to protect, but to manage us in the interests of its own self-preservation.
By definition, government is about mind control. Hiding within the word we find 'govern+ment', or govern the mind. And that is certainly what modern governments spend a lot of time doing. In earlier days, the mind control of government was to obtain political consensus among its people. With the abandonment of Keynesian economics, consensus was no longer the flavour of the day. Monetarism, or 'neo-liberalism' as it is euphemistically described these days is not about consensus but about the use of coercion, brute force and power over the weak in the name of profit and the devil take the hindmost.
And that is what governments in the west are busily promoting.
To control people, however, is not easy. The most obvious way to control them is to bully them through making them afraid. 911 was the classical example of that, July the Seventh another, Madrid, Bali and so on. And, just to ensure they stay on message they need, from time to time, to be reminded of that fear. That's what the intelligence services are there to plan and carry out and the police and the army to clear up after them.
A famous British intelligence officer and whistle-blower, David Shayler, mentions in a recent video (911 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy) how, after WWII, western governments and NATO created Operation Gladio whose purpose it was to cause terrorist incidents against their own populations and to blame the incidents on extremist groups. The British government has, through its intelligence services, carried out several terrorist attacks against its own population in these islands whilst attributing them to the Irish. As with the recent cover up of the Pat Finucaine assassination by British Intelligence these things are covered up with so-called investigations to provide the whitewash or snow jobs.
Far from being our friendly protector, as anarchists have always held, governments turn out to be the enemy of the people. And proof, should you require it, is there for all to see. The so-called 'War on Terrorism' is in reality a War of Terrorism committed by governments against their people.
Leaving aside the classic definitions of this war of state-sponsored terrorism, 911 and 77, ponder on how both Bush and Blair fabricated a situation in order to drag their peoples and armies into two blood-letting war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. Who dies in the interests of oil and capital? The same blood sacrifice, as always, is made by governments who hide behind their shabby masquerade of 'public duty' and 'protection'.
And now we are to believe once more that they are carrying out duties which they never have and never intended to fulfill?
Sorry, I don't and I won't buy it. And nor will a lot of other bloggers or the public. Through internet, both capital and its governments are being exposed as never they were. Their answer is to fake wars against terror in order to clamp down on their own real enemies, the people they seek to control and manage. That war is moving on apace and there is no reason to believe it has ended.
Not only is the British government at war with Islam but it is, as it has always been, at war with its own population. We can only expect both wars to get worse and bloggers like myself finally to be silenced through increased control of the internet.
The current campaign by the government is simply designed to make people scared and fill them with hatred and make them more compliant.
I remember clearly the IRA bombing campaign. But in those days the idea was to minimise public fear and not let the terrorists win. today it the opposite. Make people scared. regionalise the fear and maximise the hatred.
I can give you an example there was a bomb in crouch end at the local newspaper offices. The street was NOT closed nore were the shops nor was the area evacuated other than a few neighbouring shops and flats.
I even walked past the blown up premises the same day and went to the shops.
You see in those days the aim was to underplay the panic and create as little disturbance despite REAL bombs and real terrorists.
Today fake missions and maximum fear. _________________
"I saw a Jeep Cherokee apparently as if it was trying to get right through the doors into the terminal building.
"There were flames coming out from underneath then some men appeared from in amongst the flames.
"The police ran over and the people started fighting with the police. I then heard what sounded like an explosion."
Eye-witness Richard Gray told BBC News 24: "A green Jeep was in the middle of the doorway burning.
"There was an Asian guy who was pulled out of the car by two police officers, who he was trying to fight off. They've got him on the ground.
"The car didn't actually explode. There were a few pops and bangs which presumably was the petrol."
Dozens of emergency personnel attended the scene
Stephen Clarkson said he helped police restrain one of the men.
"I managed to knock the fellow to the ground," he said.
"By this time there were four policemen who got on top of him and restrained him.
"His clothes had partially burned from his body. His hair was on fire.
"His whole body was on fire."
Thomas Conroy, a maintenance worker at the airport believes the men deliberately tried to set the car on fire.
"It looked like they had Molotov cocktails with them," he said.
"They sort of burst them round about the flames to make sure the car would go up big style.
"Within minutes it was up and the terminal caught as well."
This seems just as garbled as the Haymarket story. Were the men on fire when the car crashed or not? Also how many were there?
First of all 'some men appeared from in amongst the flames' - ie. Obviously completely on fire.
Then the police run over and are fighting with them. - So the police were fighting human torches?!?
Then an Asia guy was pulled from the car by police who pulled him to the ground. - Was he on fire or not?
Then this Stephen Clarkson guy manages to knock one to the ground and says that there were 4 police officers on him and 'His clothes had partially burned from his body. His hair was on fire. His whole body was on fire'.
- So 4 police were on top of a bloke who's whole body was on fire? Good job they had put on their fire resistant clothing that day I suppose.
Finally these guys who were on fire, wrestled from the car by police and knocked to the ground somehow had the time to break molotov cocktails round the car. Even without all the other holes in this story I would imagine you are not going to be doing much apart from screaming if you are completely on fire.
If we are to believe any of this story we need to be shown the CCTV footage immediately. _________________ Only sheep need a leader.
One of these days they will pull a similar operation and someone who is aware of false flag terrorism will have a camera phone and be smart enough to
1) Download the images onto a safe location with time stamp
2) Wait for the Gov to build up their version of events so they can be hoist on their own petard then
3) Release the video on YouTube _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject:
rodin wrote:
One of these days they will pull a similar operation and someone who is aware of false flag terrorism will have a camera phone and be smart enough to
1) Download the images onto a safe location with time stamp
2) Wait for the Gov to build up their version of events so they can be hoist on their own petard then
3) Release the video on YouTube
I cannot believe everyone is looking for a false flag here. It seems to me that the most likely situation (this time at any rate) is that some loonies actually did it. As someone who has flown from Glasgow Airport dozens of times, I can assure people that cars regularly drive and drop off passengers at the very point the Jeep went up.
Saying that, I still blame the government for creating these lunatics. If we were not on a crusade in the middle east for their oil, these idiots wouldn't have any excuse to carry out these events. Remember people, before 9/11, there was no muslim extremist threat in the UK. And we all know that 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government, so it stands to reason that the current minimal threat which exists is limited to a few idiots who couldn't even get this attack right. It reminded me of Monty Pythons Suicide Squad in The Life of Brian. This was however, in stark contrast with 9/11 and 7/7, which were resounding sucesses... mainly because they were carried out professionally!
Lunatics are not professionals... Governments are!
And it showed in the gulf between the varying successes.
The news even recognise the difference, I have heard them say on a number of occations now that there "has been a change of emphasis by the terrorists and they have changed tactics"... No they have not... it is the terrorists which have changed! This time it was lunatics, where-as before it was the government.
The current campaign by the government is simply designed to make people scared and fill them with hatred and make them more compliant.
Exactly. "Rocket bombs" in the capital of Oceania.
stelios wrote:
I remember clearly the IRA bombing campaign. But in those days the idea was to minimise public fear and not let the terrorists win. today it the opposite. Make people scared. regionalise the fear and maximise the hatred.
True, but with the IRA you also had commanders rolling around in money provided to them by MI5.
Well whaddya know... Despite burning for ages these HIGHLY EXPLOSIVE GAS CANISTERS OF MASS DESTRUCTION didn't even explode (as pointed out by Snowy Grouch on here and Craig Murray at his blog - they would flare but not explode).
Some bomb.
_________________ "Nothing can trouble you but your own imagination." ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
Could well be Bongo. However many of the details of what actually happened seem very garbled. If it is a genuine one then there should be no reason not to release the CCTV footage. Would make the withholding of film footage all the other times seem less suspect for a start! _________________ Only sheep need a leader.
Hi Roger, I fully appreciate your point. I guess it may be a little too early to make a conclusion. I hope the guy survives as I would like to see the outcome of a court case and any info that surfaces from it.
I still sway towards my last conclusions at the moment, although I did find it strange that they took the badly burned terrorist (or fool) to a hospital and then the press reported that the police carried out a controlled explosion on a vehicle at the hospital where they took him? What was that about? Did other members of the terrorist cell follow the ambulance to the hospital and park a car bomb outside his ward in the hope of completing his transition to martyrdom??? Hmmm! Or maybe just a bogus story, a little gilting in the form of a tip off from MI5 to the press to enhace the effect of the situation. by the way, even though I sway towards it being a genuine idiot attack, I am by no means ruling out the government jumping on the situation to maximise benefit.
Hi Roger, I fully appreciate your point. I guess it may be a little too early to make a conclusion. I hope the guy survives as I would like to see the outcome of a court case and any info that surfaces from it.
I still sway towards my last conclusions at the moment, although I did find it strange that they took the badly burned terrorist (or fool) to a hospital and then the press reported that the police carried out a controlled explosion on a vehicle at the hospital where they took him? What was that about? Did other members of the terrorist cell follow the ambulance to the hospital and park a car bomb outside his ward in the hope of completing his transition to martyrdom??? Hmmm! Or maybe just a bogus story, a little gilting in the form of a tip off from MI5 to the press to enhace the effect of the situation. by the way, even though I sway towards it being a genuine idiot attack, I am by no means ruling out the government jumping on the situation to maximise benefit.
THE Daily Mash today joins the premier league of news organisations with the unveiling of its own 'terror-news' logo.
The publishers believe that 'Britain: nonsense It' will become the gold standard for frightening media logos in the UK and beyond.
A Daily Mash spokesman said: "We swiped the picture from Google Images and then buggered about with it using a software programme called 'The Gimp'. It worked like a charm.
"We're still the new kid on the block compared to the BBC or News International so having our own terror logo is a bit of a landmark.
"Like all media outlets we've experienced a surge in traffic over the last few days. There really is something to be said for living in a constant state of fear. Ker-ching!"
The spokesman added: "Remember, if it doesn't carry the 'Britain: nonsense It' seal of approval, it's not genuine scare-mongering."
LMFAO! _________________ "Nothing can trouble you but your own imagination." ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
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Hi Roger, I fully appreciate your point. I guess it may be a little too early to make a conclusion. I hope the guy survives as I would like to see the outcome of a court case and any info that surfaces from it.
I still sway towards my last conclusions at the moment, although I did find it strange that they took the badly burned terrorist (or fool) to a hospital and then the press reported that the police carried out a controlled explosion on a vehicle at the hospital where they took him? What was that about? Did other members of the terrorist cell follow the ambulance to the hospital and park a car bomb outside his ward in the hope of completing his transition to martyrdom??? Hmmm! Or maybe just a bogus story, a little gilting in the form of a tip off from MI5 to the press to enhace the effect of the situation. by the way, even though I sway towards it being a genuine idiot attack, I am by no means ruling out the government jumping on the situation to maximise benefit.
Cheers,
Bongo
Nice one Bongo. Yeah that business about the hospital was odd to say the least. Haven't heard much about it since. Suspect you are right and they just blew up a random car that was badly parked in order to add to the overall feeling of 'terror'. _________________ Only sheep need a leader.
Sky News have reported this afternoon that police at the Royal Alexandra Hospital, where the alleged perp has been taken have been searching the offices of one of the doctors who worked there.
They also say that police have evacuated the media from a certain area at the hospital due to the bomb squad turning up to do a controlled explosion on a suspect car.
Sky News have just confirmed that there has been a controlled explosion at the hospital on a suspect vehicle.
Police have been searching the doctors living accommodation. _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan.
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 128 Location: North Humberside
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject:
...Here, Here! ...and the mainstream media is as guilty of perpetuating this unecessary fear campaign as the rest of them. Yes, and we all know how reliable the BBC is for accurate and timely forecasts (WTC 7's collapse broadcast 30 mins before it was pulled and fell-in on its own footprint). Did they think we'd forgottten about this?
Oh and that includes the radio and the "newspapers".I got on Talk Sport last night and had a go at James Whale.He tried to talk over me,but I wouldn't have it so he cut me off.
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 312 Location: County Durham, North-East
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: TV
rik st albans wrote:
Oh and that includes the radio and the "newspapers".I got on Talk Sport last night and had a go at James Whale.He tried to talk over me,but I wouldn't have it so he cut me off.
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: USA WARNS UK OF AN ATTACK!!
Hi, bongo think you could have somthing!! j ust heared on radio scotland,usa warns uk two weeks ago of a likely attack on Glasgow Airport. DID THEY KNOW,AND LET IT HAPPEN?
I cannot believe everyone is looking for a false flag here. It seems to me that the most likely situation (this time at any rate) is that some loonies actually did it. As someone who has flown from Glasgow Airport dozens of times, I can assure people that cars regularly drive and drop off passengers at the very point the Jeep went up.
Dont fall into the trap of believing this.
We all know that you can actully drive right into the building and park there and go away.
So their is no reason to drive up the wrong way and crash into the barriers. Still being in the car. Dont you see the contradiction?
These so called loonies could not have done a worse job, even the gas cannisters did not explode. As the media is reporting them a being NHS doctors i would assume they were intelligent not loonies and so it beggers the question why such an absolutely pointless exercise.
It has to come back to the possibilty they were hypnotised, henc the alleged covering themselves in fuel.
You have all watched PaulMckenna on tv? What is stopping the M15 or Mossad from using the same technique.
Buy a couple of old cars cheap and make it look like an attack.
CIA and HItler have done the same many times before. _________________
Well whaddya know... Despite burning for ages these HIGHLY EXPLOSIVE GAS CANISTERS OF MASS DESTRUCTION didn't even explode (as pointed out by Snowy Grouch on here and Craig Murray at his blog - they would flare but not explode).
Some bomb.
What, those tiny metal bottles did not even melt or buckle in that car inferno, yet we are supposed to swallow those gigantic metal beams in the WTC just weakened and melted from a fireball?
I cannot believe everyone is looking for a false flag here. It seems to me that the most likely situation (this time at any rate) is that some loonies actually did it. As someone who has flown from Glasgow Airport dozens of times, I can assure people that cars regularly drive and drop off passengers at the very point the Jeep went up.
Dont fall into the trap of believing this.
We all know that you can actully drive right into the building and park there and go away.
So their is no reason to drive up the wrong way and crash into the barriers. Still being in the car. Dont you see the contradiction?
These so called loonies could not have done a worse job, even the gas cannisters did not explode. As the media is reporting them a being NHS doctors i would assume they were intelligent not loonies and so it beggers the question why such an absolutely pointless exercise.
It has to come back to the possibilty they were hypnotised, henc the alleged covering themselves in fuel.
You have all watched PaulMckenna on tv? What is stopping the M15 or Mossad from using the same technique.
Buy a couple of old cars cheap and make it look like an attack.
CIA and HItler have done the same many times before.
This already has all the hallmarks of a provocateured event. Bungling falied attack as the only guys who they can fool are so inept they can't pull the attack off. Just like the '93 WTC bombing.
They were acting a bit deranged though. I don't think it's debated that the NWO technitians can do pretty much anyting they like with somones mind when given the right access.
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: USA WARNS UK OF AN ATTACK!!
malcks wrote:
Hi, bongo think you could have somthing!! j ust heared on radio scotland,usa warns uk two weeks ago of a likely attack on Glasgow Airport. DID THEY KNOW,AND LET IT HAPPEN?
1) They knew they were going to do it or
2) There never was a warning
Somebody mentioned hypnosis. Acting stranger than strange. Out of character. Talking gibberish. I heard one of the doctor's father, and a neighbour on radio. Both astounded - seemed a really nice normal guy - like the teacher from Luton on 7/7. Chosen for their 'you can't tell' value by MI66AD.
They get a kick out of framing decent people. Especially if they get to kill them or set them on fire. _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com
Come to think of it the drop off/pick up zone in front of John Lennon Airport terminal was barriered off to everything except buses just over a week ago. Don't know what that's got to do with Glasgow, though _________________ http://www.exopolitics-leeds.co.uk/introduction
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: Say goodbye to freedom - what little of it is left.
Basically take a couple nut cases, extremists, psychotics, zealots, retards etc (take your pick) and throw around £20,000 here and £10,000 there and you've got a provocateured terrorist plot. No one will follow the money, but everyone will loose their liberties.
Totally provocateured, total BULLSH1T, and it winds me up to see the morons running around the streets of England thinking they are under attack.
This is obviously why we need cameras on every street corner, bans on free speech, bans on protesting, bans on smoking, ID Cards and passports to be issued only after interview at a designated center 30-40 miles away from where you live, where you will have to prove who you are and where you work before you can get documents.
I've got a great idea, breathalizers in every pub, you have to pass the breathalizer before you can buy a drink, and if you fail the breathalizer you can not buy alcohol in a pub. Like a mobile breathalizer administered by the bar tender.. What do you think?? This will solve drunken yobs on the streets on Friday and Saturday nights and binge drinking...
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